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D4rkKnight




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 23:15    Post subject:
I dont think its hard to explain, from what I understand it reverses the flow of seratonin so that instead of producing it, storing it, and slowly releasing it, your body is releasing it all at once. Thats fine and all assuming you only used E once a week or once a month. Anything more then that and I see your brain having some problems functioning properly because of this constant biological change.

I know in reality the science behind it is alot more complicated but from a very basic biological standpoint its easy to see the potential for major brain damage.
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Clevesa




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 23:38    Post subject:
I prefer pot.
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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 23:42    Post subject:
people who have never done a certain drug dont know what it is and will never know unless you do it yourself. once you take a drug you will realize that all the commotion about it is just over the top. drugs changed my life in a good way. i dont do it often (twice a month maybe) and very small amounts. it makes everything so much nicer


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 23:43    Post subject:
D4rkKnight wrote:
I dont think its hard to explain, from what I understand it reverses the flow of seratonin so that instead of producing it, storing it, and slowly releasing it, your body is releasing it all at once. Thats fine and all assuming you only used E once a week or once a month. Anything more then that and I see your brain having some problems functioning properly because of this constant biological change.

I know in reality the science behind it is alot more complicated but from a very basic biological standpoint its easy to see the potential for major brain damage.


Anyone who does E once a week is simply fucked in the head... and they deserve what they get.

I stand by my statement thou its a hell of alot safer than 99% of other drugs there are (Including booze and tobacoo)

For me its a drug i do pretty seldom ... maybe once every 2 months ?
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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 23:45    Post subject:
if you do it seldom you enjoy it more Smile

@Crash: e is more dangerous then tobacco and booze. if you do each of these 3 things everyday what will kill you the fastest? offcourse e


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 23:57    Post subject:
D4rkKnight wrote:
I dont think its hard to explain, from what I understand it reverses the flow of seratonin so that instead of producing it, storing it, and slowly releasing it, your body is releasing it all at once. Thats fine and all assuming you only used E once a week or once a month. Anything more then that and I see your brain having some problems functioning properly because of this constant biological change.

I know in reality the science behind it is alot more complicated but from a very basic biological standpoint its easy to see the potential for major brain damage.


True. Regular users (at least once a week for a few years) commonly suffer with chronic depression because the brain is desensitised to seratonin.

An analogy would be how someone can get diabetes from excessive sugar consumption over an extended period.

There are hundreds of substances with the potential for abuse though, including caffeine, alcohol and even high fat/sugar foods. Which are consumed by billions of people on a daily basis. Yet only a tiny percentage of these form an addiction to said substances. It's all a matter of moderating your consumption.

The only difference with most (not all) illegal drugs is that they have a greater potential for abuse, yet the same rules apply. Remember, many countries tried to ban alcohol too at one point.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 04:37    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
D4rkKnight wrote:
I dont think its hard to explain, from what I understand it reverses the flow of seratonin so that instead of producing it, storing it, and slowly releasing it, your body is releasing it all at once. Thats fine and all assuming you only used E once a week or once a month. Anything more then that and I see your brain having some problems functioning properly because of this constant biological change.

I know in reality the science behind it is alot more complicated but from a very basic biological standpoint its easy to see the potential for major brain damage.


True. Regular users (at least once a week for a few years) commonly suffer with chronic depression because the brain is desensitised to seratonin.

An analogy would be how someone can get diabetes from excessive sugar consumption over an extended period.

There are hundreds of substances with the potential for abuse though, including caffeine, alcohol and even high fat/sugar foods. Which are consumed by billions of people on a daily basis. Yet only a tiny percentage of these form an addiction to said substances. It's all a matter of moderating your consumption.

The only difference with most (not all) illegal drugs is that they have a greater potential for abuse, yet the same rules apply. Remember, many countries tried to ban alcohol too at one point.




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kalato




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 11:15    Post subject:
Well i'm back to normal now hehe and to all that thought it was a pill it was pure crystallized mdma and its better than pills since you havent got any of that other shit which they mix with pills. I was pritty fooked and didnt have no sleep for 2 days since i took some other shit with it (speed). Also i have to admit i didnt drink to much water and thats why my head was banging so much while on the stuff so i should of drunk more but i didnt and i cant remember why.


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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 12:15    Post subject:
usually its like that with me. but always keep it under more then 2 days. i went 4 days without sleep and speed once, you get fucked up then , seriously, never doing that again


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 12:22    Post subject:
I drink alcohol and use snuff (sp?) once a year.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 12:23    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
I drink alcohol and use snuff (sp?) once a year.




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Snuff? what is that?. You stick it up your nose or something?
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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 12:29    Post subject:
snuff tobacco offcourse Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 12:31    Post subject:
Aren't there pretend snuff movies out there? Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 12:32    Post subject:
only those of us


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 12:38    Post subject:
No I'm serious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff_film

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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 18:03    Post subject:
I have had many interesting experiences on MDMA, to be honest I had to give up pills a long time ago, they are cheap, dirty and being bi-polar myself they cause me all sorts of grief on the "come down". MDMA i always found to be a much cleaner high, altho has anyone else noticed that when you have a cigarette or a joint on MDMA you finish it and you instantly want another one. But then again i used MDMA very rarely being quite aware of the effects it would have on me afterwards.

I, however, did use harder drugs for a period of time, cocaine being one of them. I was working in a bar where it was rife, everyone was at it. I even went into work one sunday morning, went into the office to cashup from the night before and found 1/2 a gram of charlie on the floor of the office. Now cocaine is addictive and too expensive. But there is worse.

My friend recently died from a drug that I used to take extremely regularly. He went into a K-hole and just didnt wake up.

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Reg67




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 18:11    Post subject:
What's a K-hole? Some sort of drug induced coma?

Sorry about your mate btw Sad
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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 18:25    Post subject:
a k-hole is what you go into from ketamine. in small doses its like speed, in larger doses you get in a k-hole. you see yourself lying around, unable to move but feeling great or so i have been told.


and pills and smoking alot is so true. its like breathing air


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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 19:12    Post subject:
its not necessarily like speed in small doses, its more like being tipsy but still being with it. you just feel like ur about to fall over most of the time, a bit wonky


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 01:31    Post subject:
pity mdma/pills is so expensive here.........

Im talking 25x more expensive than when i was in london :/
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JeanPerrier




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 01:50    Post subject:
so 50 euro for one pill?


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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 02:16    Post subject:
pills are cheap as fuck and mdma varies quite a lot in the uk


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kalato




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 02:59    Post subject:
Yeah i can get any pills here for 50p each and good mdma is about 35 a gram or cheaper if my best mate gets it heheh.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 21:21    Post subject:
JeanPerrier wrote:
so 50 euro for one pill?


bout 70NZD here.. so thats wot./... 37 Odd euro a pill

mdma powder is about $200NZD for half a gram

fucked up eh Razz
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 21:45    Post subject:
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JeanPerrier wrote:
so 50 euro for one pill?


bout 70NZD here.. so thats wot./... 37 Odd euro a pill

mdma powder is about $200NZD for half a gram

fucked up eh Razz


Wow, thats ridiculous!

But you have the legal alternatives over there don't you, so it's not all bad.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 23:32    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
JeanPerrier wrote:
so 50 euro for one pill?


bout 70NZD here.. so thats wot./... 37 Odd euro a pill

mdma powder is about $200NZD for half a gram

fucked up eh Razz


Wow, thats ridiculous!

But you have the legal alternatives over there don't you, so it's not all bad.


Yeah we do.. stuff like this






Some are alot stronger than MDMA imho...they feel like mdma + a little bit of speed.... and most people have hangovers (however mega dosing on 5htp seems to give me no hangover)

I expect they will become illegal in the future (For no good reason.. u know how politicians are)
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 00:18    Post subject:
Yeah, lots of people swear by 5-HTP. Smile


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bxrdj




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 01:59    Post subject:
god E is so 90's hahaha u r 10 yrs late


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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 20:51    Post subject:
5htp is fantastic stuff and is great for anyone adversely affected (mentally) by drugs. most of those things Cartoon showed pictures of are available here, or along those lines anyway, you can just go into a head shop in brighton and pick what you need.


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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 21:30    Post subject:
Why do junkeis live so long?
They don't!
They OD and die. Smile
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