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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jan 2007 13:34    Post subject:
lnatan25 wrote:
You know why WinFS was taken out? Beta (or should I say alpha) testers complained it runs slowly on 5400rpm hdds. That's the reasons. You know why vector based AERO was scrapped (or rather posponed indefinetely)? Because it required high-end DX9 with SM3.0 support, and they feared cheap idiots won't be able to run it, so they scrapped. Want to know why explorer shell got dumbed down from early beta 1 builds to beta 2 (things like virtual folders, content sensitive directory apearence, etc)? Because beta testers were too confused between Longhorn's explorer shell and XP's.

Annoy me enough and I might find the sources of internal memos with the reasons why so many things failed to show up. Sure some of it is MS' fault, but only a small fraction.

This has nothign to do with whining. Yu should know better then that.

Microsoft is a company aiming for profit. If you rule out systems with 5.4k RPM harddisks and lowend GPU's you might as well shot yourself in the foot.

I think it was a wise decicion by M$ because they will sell more copies of their product this way.

Keep in mind that only a very very small fraction of users have high end equipment in their PCs.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jan 2007 14:02    Post subject:
I was making a point. MS' biggest sin was to promise all those things without checking if it was possible to achieve within the risk limits they were ready to take. That wouldn't have raised the expectation levels so high.
And I have to disagree with you on the shooting in the foot thing. Apple looses compatability with every major OS revision. So? Have they lost a marketshare? They continue to climb up.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jan 2007 16:51    Post subject:
Vista was not completely re-written from scratch. It was based on Server 2003. the TCP/IP stack is only a small percentage of the OS and doesn't count as a complete OS rewrite. In fact if MS did rewrite Vista from scratch it wouldn't be Windows, it would be a fucking Windows Emulator.

Its plainly obvious that you adore Vista Inatan25 but understand that it is just a fucking OS and its not like YOU wrote it or your a major shareholder in MS or anything because you wouldn't be on these forums if you were. So STFU dissing other people's perceptions of Vista. If they think it offers no more than XP then its obvious that MS have fucked up.

In reality what have they offered us that differentiates Vista from its competition. Shall I tell you Inatan25, fuck all, thats what. In fact MS have spent the last 5 years playing catch up to OSX and Linux.

And if MS have given people what they want - then STFU - they are the ones paying for it, unlike you. So think about that when you come out with comments like "you and ignorant prople like you are the reason why Vista is not the Longhorn envisioned in 2003."
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Jan 2007 19:38    Post subject:
lnatan25 wrote:
You know why WinFS was taken out? Beta (or should I say alpha) testers complained it runs slowly on 5400rpm hdds. That's the reasons. You know why vector based AERO was scrapped (or rather posponed indefinetely)? Because it required high-end DX9 with SM3.0 support, and they feared cheap idiots won't be able to run it, so they scrapped. Want to know why explorer shell got dumbed down from early beta 1 builds to beta 2 (things like virtual folders, content sensitive directory apearence, etc)? Because beta testers were too confused between Longhorn's explorer shell and XP's.

Annoy me enough and I might find the sources of internal memos with the reasons why so many things failed to show up. Sure some of it is MS' fault, but only a small fraction.


Ok, but why not make these feats optional for people who actually fill the requirements? I can understand that some people can get confused with an extended explorer display, but I bet there are alot of people who would appreciate it. If it was already included in BETA 1 why not make it an optional choice in the final? Same goes for WinFS and vector based AERO...After all this would make Vista even more future save.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 11:52    Post subject:
Was Vista build on Windows 2003 ???
This could/would explain alot of things for me then... Smile...
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 11:59    Post subject:
@ dark_matter

It's lnatan25 not Inatan25 like it says in his sig...lol.Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 12:14    Post subject:
NecroViolator wrote:
Was Vista build on Windows 2003 ???
This could/would explain alot of things for me then... Smile...

windows 2003 aka windows 64bit

yes it was but they added dx 10 Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 21:54    Post subject:
Has anyone noticed a reduce in response time of vista in general after installing an antivirus like norton av corp?

Mine sure did. I guess it's the same way with older windows OS. Sad I just thought they would you know make it run better on vista. Also, windows defender is axed by norton av corp. I find that funny. No, MS. You can't bundle something too similar to AV with vista so we disable you. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 21:58    Post subject:
Get NOD32, it's much faster and better than SAV.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jan 2007 23:50    Post subject:
anyone noticed that copying files from one hdd to another is slower the XP?
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 01:00    Post subject:
zoki_007 wrote:
anyone noticed that copying files from one hdd to another is slower the XP?

its called SUPERLAG like SUPERPFETCH with SUPERNOTCOMPABILITY and SUPERNODRIVERS
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 18:32    Post subject:
and u are SUPERSTUPID
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jan 2007 18:51    Post subject:
Bavlito wrote:
and u are SUPERSTUPID

QFT!
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Akon




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 09:08    Post subject:
I just tried the Bill Gates version of Vista and did some testing. Gaming performance is shit. Company of Heroes was playable, Neverwinter Nights 2 is a slideshow, Oblivion is so so. Older games run about 50% slower than on XP, the newer ones a bit faster, maybe around 80-90% of the original speed on XP.

Vista is very, very memory hungy. It sounded like my harddrive was about to explode after I shut down Company of Heroes. I guess 2 GB of memory will not be enough.

Vista is not as impressive as I wanted it to be, sure it's nice looking but what are you going to do with an OS with good looks when the games run like shit? I hope most of the problems will be solved with better drivers but I'm not that hopefull.

Until Crysis is out I'm keeping XP...
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 13:41    Post subject:
A question about the 64 bit crack:
Do i have to follow the instructions of the 32 bit version with the only differenza of the patch used?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 14:07    Post subject:
The crack includes both versions in one. Once you install the crack on the x64 version, it should select the right crack.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 14:40    Post subject:
Akon wrote:
I just tried the Bill Gates version of Vista and did some testing. Gaming performance is shit. Company of Heroes was playable, Neverwinter Nights 2 is a slideshow, Oblivion is so so. Older games run about 50% slower than on XP, the newer ones a bit faster, maybe around 80-90% of the original speed on XP.

Vista is very, very memory hungy. It sounded like my harddrive was about to explode after I shut down Company of Heroes. I guess 2 GB of memory will not be enough.

Vista is not as impressive as I wanted it to be, sure it's nice looking but what are you going to do with an OS with good looks when the games run like shit? I hope most of the problems will be solved with better drivers but I'm not that hopefull.

Until Crysis is out I'm keeping XP...
Well, i have not noticed such a hit on the performances (using Ultimate x64), i have tried only a few games: Medieval 2 total war, Anno 1701, they seemed as good as under XP, except for a graphical glitche in Anno, nvidia drivers related, i have tweaked a bit and disabled a lot of useless services, indexing of the drives, etc, that could help, i have also 3gb of ram and this may explain a part of our different findings.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 16:05    Post subject:
lnatan25 wrote:
The crack includes both versions in one. Once you install the crack on the x64 version, it should select the right crack.


Yes but i have to follow the instructions of the 32 bit crack for all the other things?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 19:56    Post subject:
You guys know that there are different versions of VISTA? have you checked that your hardware is up to it? Of course everybody wants the "best" and get "Ultimate" running all the eye candy at once...but that is not a good plan using 512kb Ram on 2.0Ghz trying to play R6 Vegas, believe me Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 20:03    Post subject:
Well, Ultimate > All else... With a few services stopped, it's just as fast as Business or Enterprise.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 22:54    Post subject:
why is my athlon 64 X2 4200+ only running @1800 MHZ all the time ? On Windows XP Cool and quiet works just fine, but even if i turn it off my cpu only clocks @ 1800 MHZ using Vista.
Do i have to install any special Athlon 64 Driver for Vista ? As far as i see AMD has not released any for vista yet. Do the drivers for XP work ?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jan 2007 23:19    Post subject:
I haven't installed any drivers for my 4000+ and it works @ 2.4, like it's supposed to.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 15:18    Post subject:
I installed Vista with the date hack (2099) and it's still reporting 30 days left to activate, some 40+ days later.

Got to be the best crack of them all? Eligible for updates etc.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 17:27    Post subject:
norm, if yo haven't applied the crack, you don't have a cracked Vista (or you're a liar, not sure). The date alone does nothing, hence the need for a crack.
Run the following command: "slmgr.vbs -dlv" to see the remaining minutes. Then check the minutes again after a while. Suprise suprise, it counts down.
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norm




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 19:43    Post subject:
Why hasn't it counted down from 30 days under the system panel then?

Is it 30 days combined use of Vista total? Or 30 days straight?
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 20:32    Post subject:
When you use the system, there's a counter that counts the minutes you use it. You just haven't used Vista for more than 24hrs, so it says 30 days, but it's tic toc tic toc...

Apply the crack.
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norm




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 21:07    Post subject:
Ok didn't realsie that.

Thanks for clarifying.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 22:59    Post subject:
in my case, when I applied the timer crack on my business version I only got "2 timers stopped". for a good 10 days everything was fine but 3 days ago I got the "you have 29 days to activate windows" screen. I've followed everything to the letter. not a happy bunny
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jan 2007 23:14    Post subject:
"2 timers stopped" is strange... 4 is the normal, so maybe you applied some of the old "cracks" and it screwed something...
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jan 2007 11:19    Post subject:
it may be strange but it sure isn't uncommon. many ppl in kaznews have reported similar thing happening to them. perhaps someone could point the most recent patch to me?
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