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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jan 2007 20:28    Post subject:
Ummm.... The game is being made by F3 Games & Akella. Mistland doesn't have anything to do with Jagged Alliance 3. They still are making a similar game using the crappy Alpha Antiterror engine (it will be called "JA3") yes but it isn't 'Jagged Alliance'. There was a bit of a scandal about this in the local industry but you can't take legal actions if they want to call a game JA3 (they can always say it means "Just Atrocious 3").

P.S. Maybe it's just some cheap PR stunt after being pwned by Akella and Strategy First and the project will never be completed. We'll see.


About voices: no, the voiceover won't be done by the same actors (mostly 'coz no one knows where half of them is now )))

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mYslead




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 05:32    Post subject:
i thought mistland was doing some kind of Jagged Alliance game but set in africa ?
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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 06:21    Post subject:
Yeah, well Mistland is a black sheep down here. They talk a lot, they promise a lot and they never deliver anything after that.
There were several JA-style projects announced by Mistlland but no one really knows if they do exist. The story with JA3 was that they were bullshitting Strategy First that it's being made but couldn't show anything good when the deadline/milestone time arrived.

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Vulture




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 10:08    Post subject:
upstart_69 wrote:
Anthirs wrote:
So what does v1.13 bring JA2?


Dude. If you like the original game, then 1.13 is like chocolate topping to your ja2 sundae. It adds so much and fixes so much that the game is new again. Playing at higher resolutions is just one Small minor example of what it does. Check out these sites to find out more/give it a try:

http://ja2v113.schtuff.com/ (check out features list-its massive)
and
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com (also hosts the urban chaos, dl total conv mods)

Oh and to the OP: Does the magazine article mention if any of the original voice actors will be featured in part 3?



I will try v1.13 right away, thx for the info Smile
Still I miss a multiplayer mode, I hope JA3 will not dissapoint us with this...
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s_hole




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 16:09    Post subject:
i just tired the 1.13 mod, and it STILL doesn't fix the most glaring faults of the game which make it unplayable for me
especially the lack of a way to enter turn based mode manually and STAY within it until it's safe not to
it's fucking ridiculous that a supposedly turn based combat game turns into a reflex button smashing game if i want to stay alive at all
silent storm did the turnbased combat wonderfully
i hope they don't mess it up for JA3
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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 21:01    Post subject:
The basics of SS combat will remain the same for JA3. There will be tons of new actions (sidestepping, peeking over the corners, all those traps and silent kills etc etc etc), but they aren't changing the main principles.

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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 00:51    Post subject:
more scans:



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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 02:16    Post subject:
Cant wait. I wish they'd make a UFO game, just a carbon copy of first one with SS engine and more tech, etc.

Probably the only game id buy.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 02:24    Post subject:
vasiok wrote:
Cant wait. I wish they'd make a UFO game, just a carbon copy of first one with SS engine and more tech, etc.

Probably the only game id buy.


there ya go http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/ufo_extraterrestrials
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 04:03    Post subject:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
vasiok wrote:
Cant wait. I wish they'd make a UFO game, just a carbon copy of first one with SS engine and more tech, etc.

Probably the only game id buy.


there ya go http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/ufo_extraterrestrials


Holy cow...a UFO modern remake without changing combat to a shitty-ass realtime/turnbased hybird system that sucks ass? I'm sold. Looks really nice. Hopefully nothing goes wrong with it between now and feb.

And thanks for the extra scans...helps me believe this game might just see the light of dawn...and not be too bad to play, either. Even if it is SS engine with the JA basics, I'd be happy. If they keep the whole map sector conquering/militia training gameplay aspects intact, I might just be saying goodbye to another few hundred hours of my life. Heh.

Anyways, keeping my fingers crossed.
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mYslead




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 09:31    Post subject:
oh yeah UFO extraterrestrials, wasn't it suppose to come out in november ? oh well.

is there an ETA on JA3 ?
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 10:03    Post subject:
mYslead wrote:
oh yeah UFO extraterrestrials, wasn't it suppose to come out in november ? oh well.

is there an ETA on JA3 ?


ufo - yest ot was byt they decided not to make another zero day patch game Smile and extended their beta test team to finish the game

JA3 - q3 .. but it was also game that had been published in 06 ,,, delayed for unknown reason
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jan 2007 10:48    Post subject:
...published?

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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 17:50    Post subject:
upstart_69 wrote:
If they keep the whole map sector conquering/militia training gameplay aspects intact, I might just be saying goodbye to another few hundred hours of my life. Heh.

Anyways, keeping my fingers crossed.


I think i read on the Bear Pit forums that the militia training will not be in the game anymore. A guy from SF posted a few lines about it there when those scans came out.. Either way, I cant wait for this one. I will try to find the link again...

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000200

Edit: Seems like I was wrong about the militia not being in the game. Either way, what that guy says about the different features is quite interesting, if they can pull it off.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 18:29    Post subject:
I too loved Fallout 1 & 2 but was totally bored with JA2.

JA2 made it feel like your character's survival was dependent on luck. If you happen to be standing in the right spot your character would see the enemy and survive.

A game with potential but missed the boat.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 18:51    Post subject:
lol.
Then i had lots of luck, cause i finnished the 1.03 JA2 twice, once with v1.13 and once with Urban Chaos.
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mYslead




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jan 2007 23:14    Post subject:
KnightRider2006 wrote:
I too loved Fallout 1 & 2 but was totally bored with JA2.

JA2 made it feel like your character's survival was dependent on luck. If you happen to be standing in the right spot your character would see the enemy and survive.

A game with potential but missed the boat.


missed the boat? JA was all about tactics. you were probably just not doing it the right way.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jan 2007 09:04    Post subject:
KnightRider2006 wrote:
I too loved Fallout 1 & 2 but was totally bored with JA2.

JA2 made it feel like your character's survival was dependent on luck. If you happen to be standing in the right spot your character would see the enemy and survive.

A game with potential but missed the boat.


You do realize that sirtech came out with jagged alliance the original in 94? Thats 3 years before fallout ever came into being. So I'm not sure how you mean the series missed the boat when it practically invented the combat system that both games use. Of course xcom was about the same time, but still I'd say fallout borrowed from both. In no way I'm saying that fallout was a bad game, it was a great rpg-one of the best. But in terms of tactics? There is no competition.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jan 2007 09:14    Post subject:
SilverBlue wrote:
upstart_69 wrote:
If they keep the whole map sector conquering/militia training gameplay aspects intact, I might just be saying goodbye to another few hundred hours of my life. Heh.

Anyways, keeping my fingers crossed.


I think i read on the Bear Pit forums that the militia training will not be in the game anymore. A guy from SF posted a few lines about it there when those scans came out.. Either way, I cant wait for this one. I will try to find the link again...

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000200

Edit: Seems like I was wrong about the militia not being in the game. Either way, what that guy says about the different features is quite interesting, if they can pull it off.


Thanks for the link. I have a hard time keeping up with that forum. The only thing is, I wish I could believe that Richard guy. I remember reading posts made by him on the board almost a year ago stating that Mistland was coming along well with ja3 like it was factual information. So yeah, that comic on the same page sums it up nicely. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jan 2007 10:28    Post subject:
Well, I've been there when Richard came down to Moscow to work with the dev team and I must that week (9am-20pm daily) sure wasn't wasted. He's more than serious about the features mentioned on Bearpit and the devs are concentrating all the efforts on 'em.

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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 05:22    Post subject:
New crappy gameplay video from MistLand's horrible JA3 wannabe title:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ijq266

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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 20:16    Post subject:
Well, I'm glad to hear that Strategy First took JA3 away from MistLand too. I had hoped they would after I heard the news about Disciples III, but I didn't see anything more about it.

SF should update their site though, because it still says MistLand South there and anyone with the misfortune of ever having played a MistLand game will have a very negative view of JA3 after seeing that.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 01:01    Post subject:
Quote:
Playing at higher resolutions is just one Small minor example of what it does.


I installed JA2 a few days ago but i cant finad any resolutions option?

And btw how do you use medkits?
I put it int the weapon slot but he didnt heal any one :/
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 03:53    Post subject:
you need the 1.13 i think for resolution options.

back in the late 90s people didn't have 25 inches monitors you know Smile

and as for the medkit, you have to use it on someone. put it in your weapon slot and then "action/use" it on the guy you need to heal.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 14:32    Post subject:
mYslead wrote:
you need the 1.13 i think for resolution options.

back in the late 90s people didn't have 25 inches monitors you know Smile

and as for the medkit, you have to use it on someone. put it in your weapon slot and then "action/use" it on the guy you need to heal.


Yea i have 1.13.

Okej il try that.

Quote:
In no way I'm saying that fallout was a bad game, it was a great rpg-one of the best. But in terms of tactics? There is no competition.


I do like that you could do "aimed shots" in fallout, it added one more dimension to the combat.I miss this in JA2. I havent played it many minutes yet so i might be wrong.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 16:40    Post subject:
If you installed 1.13 correctly, go in ja2.ini in the main folader and you'll see there 3 options, for 3 different resolutions. The default is 800x600(the game came with 640x480). you can go as far as 1024x768.
And wth are you talking about no aimed shot in JA 2? have you even played the game? Just use more action points for the attack(you know, make the circle smaller, that's the aimed shot). Also, you can attack different body parts...
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 17:15    Post subject:
ady5 wrote:
If you installed 1.13 correctly, go in ja2.ini in the main folader and you'll see there 3 options, for 3 different resolutions. The default is 800x600(the game came with 640x480). you can go as far as 1024x768.
And wth are you talking about no aimed shot in JA 2? have you even played the game? Just use more action points for the attack(you know, make the circle smaller, that's the aimed shot). Also, you can attack different body parts...


Okej i foud it thx!

Edit: The hieroglyphics you speak of is infact swedish Cool I was posting on a swedish forum befor and didt think about it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 17:57    Post subject:
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Aha de blev ingen skillnad i AP när jag aima på olika delar, därför trode jag inte de spelade så stor roll. Men okej de låter ju grymt!
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If you're going to post the above hieroglyphics (for me that is), why not just PM that guy.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 18:40    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
????????????????????????????????????????????????
Aha de blev ingen skillnad i AP när jag aima på olika delar, därför trode jag inte de spelade så stor roll. Men okej de låter ju grymt!
????????????????????????????????????????????????

If you're going to post the above hieroglyphics (for me that is), why not just PM that guy.


lol hieroglypics.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 18:53    Post subject:
the memories..........
i remember when i hit with the woman (the sniper one) forgot her name in one of the section of
the prisons on the roof, the guy was on the corner and she hited him with critical. he did some
acrobatics before he landed down. i was like WTF.
and how can you forget the assitant every new city he had a nice talk with the queen Smile
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