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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 01:26    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Correct me if Im wrong but the FireGL series perform identically to their mainstream gaming counterparts but lack driver support for games. Am I right? Am I wrong?


that's what I figured anyways ... I guess I was wondering if the driver support existed anywhere ...

oh, and this is why I hate ebay sometimes ...



actual shipping cost is more like $10 Neutral

there are a million more examples of people charging a fucking ridiculous amount of money for shipping ... I guess they hope someone bids without noticing ...


actually shipping prob isnt that much, they just take some from the actual price and add it to shipping to make it SEEM like a deal but it's not. that way they don't lose money, if you want to do ATI on agp get teh 9700 PRO, very cheap. Nvidia also release the 7800GS for agp which is a bad ass and the last AGP for the system but it's a bit pricey


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 01:37    Post subject:
I've got a 9600SE you can have for free just shipping but I honestly dunno if it works or not. the 6600-6800 Geforces are decent prices as well. The gt from what I read will smoke that XT you were looking at

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&satitle=6600+agp&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 01:56    Post subject:
@spikez and kamel, thanks for the offers for free video cards (you're both quite generous), but to tell you the truth, I bet they won't be THAT much better than my 8500 Razz I really want to give F.E.A.R. a try, so that is what I'm looking to be able to play.

Actually, Tom's Hardware recommends an Nvideo 6600GT as the best value for cheap AGP card, so I might go with either that one or a 9700 pro ... guess it's up to finding a good price now...

I'm actually leaning towards the 6600GT ... I've never owned anything besides ATI, but I'm not exactly a fanboy Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 02:02    Post subject:
My video card story went as follows.

7200 -> 9800Pro -> 6800NU -> X850Pro -> 7900GT -> X1900XT

From the 7200 to the X850Pro was all within 2 months after FEAR was released. I was so disatisfied with its performance that I went on a video card upgrade spree. With the 9800Pro I had to turn shadows off and that completely kills the atmosphere of the game but depending on your expectations it might be ok. Fear leans toward Nvidia performance wise and a 6600GT can play it solidly at 1024x768.

Isn't a 7600GS much faster then a 6600GT? The 7600GS's around here are about $99.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 02:04    Post subject:
yeah 7600GS is better
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 02:16    Post subject:
hmmmm 7600GS seems to be a lot more expensive on ebay ...

btw, I am considering 128mb 6600GT ... all the 7600GS seem to be 256/512 mb


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 02:22    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
hmmmm 7600GS seems to be a lot more expensive on ebay ...

btw, I am considering 128mb 6600GT ... all the 7600GS seem to be 256/512 mb

u don't need 512mb get 256mb one 128mb is not enough this days and get out of the house some time, check some regular shops they may have it for a low price
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 02:25    Post subject:
ELIZ wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
hmmmm 7600GS seems to be a lot more expensive on ebay ...

btw, I am considering 128mb 6600GT ... all the 7600GS seem to be 256/512 mb

u don't need 512mb get 256mb one and get out of the house some time, check some regular shops they may have it for a low price


naw, 256mb is more than I wanted to spend Wink AGP cards seem to be pretty pricey over 128mb ...

I've tried local classifieds as well ... seriously, I'm looking at spending $75 max Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 03:04    Post subject:
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@spikez and kamel, thanks for the offers for free video cards (you're both quite generous), but to tell you the truth, I bet they won't be THAT much better than my 8500 Razz I really want to give F.E.A.R. a try, so that is what I'm looking to be able to play.

Actually, Tom's Hardware recommends an Nvideo 6600GT as the best value for cheap AGP card, so I might go with either that one or a 9700 pro ... guess it's up to finding a good price now...

I'm actually leaning towards the 6600GT ... I've never owned anything besides ATI, but I'm not exactly a fanboy Razz


lol the 9600SE was special for teh fact it was special as in retarded. They took it and downclocked the hell out of it as well as the interface was downed as well, normal 9600 was 128bit and the SE was down'ed to 64 Rolling Eyes ATI is SE Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 03:12    Post subject:
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lol the 9600SE was special for teh fact it was special as in retarded. They took it and downclocked the hell out of it as well as the interface was downed as well, normal 9600 was 128bit and the SE was down'ed to 64 Rolling Eyes ATI is SE Razz


hehe you're telling me ... the card I have now, the 8500 LE I have now is a fucking piece of shit.

guess it serves me right for buying a budget edition of the card Wink Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 03:14    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
@spikez and kamel, thanks for the offers for free video cards (you're both quite generous), but to tell you the truth, I bet they won't be THAT much better than my 8500 Razz I really want to give F.E.A.R. a try, so that is what I'm looking to be able to play.

Actually, Tom's Hardware recommends an Nvideo 6600GT as the best value for cheap AGP card, so I might go with either that one or a 9700 pro ... guess it's up to finding a good price now...

I'm actually leaning towards the 6600GT ... I've never owned anything besides ATI, but I'm not exactly a fanboy Razz


lol the 9600SE was special for teh fact it was special as in retarded. They took it and downclocked the hell out of it as well as the interface was downed as well, normal 9600 was 128bit and the SE was down'ed to 64 Rolling Eyes ATI is SE Razz


SE stands for short edition, nothing special about that Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 20:45    Post subject:
ok, I found a couple in the classified ads ... both used ...

BFG nVidia 6800 GS OC 256MB AGP 8x DDR3 Video Card - $130
ATI Radeon X850 XT AGP 256MB VRAM - $100

which one is the better deal?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 20:58    Post subject:
The X850 is no doubt a faster card and $30 cheaper but it lacks SM3 and if you've read some of the stuff in the PC section a lot of the newer games have a minimum requirement of a SM3 capable card. The 6800GS is a SM3 card but if your interests are getting the best performance in only a select number of games you like then grab the X850.

I believe the 6800GS performs in between a 6800 Non Ultra and a 6800GT. While the X850XT/PE was competing against the 6800Ultra/7800GS. Its in the top 3 of fastest AGP cards.

Me personally, I would grab the X850 to get the most out of that AGP rig, you'll have to upgrade in the future to play those SM3 games decently anyway so just get that and forget the 6800GS's mediocre SM3 performance anyway
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 21:04    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
The X850 is no doubt a faster card and $30 cheaper but it lacks SM3 and if you've read some of the stuff in the PC section a lot of the newer games have a minimum requirement of a SM3 capable card. The 6800GS is a SM3 card but if your interests are getting the best performance in only a select number of games you like then grab the X850.


OK thanks ... yeah, I haven't reallly been able to play many new games in the last couple of years, so I still have lots to choose from. I think I'll go for the ATI card then Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 22:28    Post subject:
OK, one more question Razz

Relative to the price of that ATI X850 XT 256mb @ $100, how much should I pay for a BFG Nvidia GeForce 6600GT 128MB? Half?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 22:46    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
OK, one more question Razz

Relative to the price of that ATI X850 XT 256mb @ $100, how much should I pay for a BFG Nvidia GeForce 6600GT 128MB? Half?


For some strange reason those 6600's are still a bit pricey. Used I would say $60ish but the $100 for the X850 is a really pretty good deal considering I sold mine for $250 no more then 6 months ago haha. That 6800GS should be like $70-80 since the Ultras around here go for around $90 now.

I just wish you had a PCI-Express slot, my cousin just bought a BFG 7600GT for $78 after rebate. Even better you could get a 7900GS for a little more then $100 after rebates. AGP shits too expensive. Some guy in a Ad here is selling his AGP X1950Pro which is the fastest AGP card for only $180.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 22:58    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
OK, one more question Razz

Relative to the price of that ATI X850 XT 256mb @ $100, how much should I pay for a BFG Nvidia GeForce 6600GT 128MB? Half?


For some strange reason those 6600's are still a bit pricey. Used I would say $60ish but the $100 for the X850 is a really pretty good deal considering I sold mine for $250 no more then 6 months ago haha. That 6800GS should be like $70-80 since the Ultras around here go for around $90 now.


well right now that card is sitting pretty cheap on ebay, but no bids yet... it's local to me too, so no shipping costs. I might choose that one if I can get it for ~$50 ...

oh, and that guy actually wanted $150 for the 6800GS but said he would accept $130 ... so fuck him then Smile

KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
I just wish you had a PCI-Express slot, my cousin just bought a BFG 7600GT for $78 after rebate. Even better you could get a 7900GS for a little more then $100 after rebates. AGP shits too expensive. Some guy in a Ad here is selling his AGP X1950Pro which is the fastest AGP card for only $180.


yeah, I wish I had a pci-e slot too, but anyways, I'm pretty sure that I couldn't use a US rebate coupon anyways.

oh, and that $100 CDN works out to $85 USD Wink Also, it's around 1/2-2/3 of the price of any other X850 on ebay (after shipping and shit) ...


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 23:11    Post subject:
How much times left until the auction closes on the card? Yeah forget that 6800GS that guys insane for even thinking about $150 when in that price range it can easily get blown out the water by other cards.

Right now Im just sick of PC's. There's absolutly nothing to play as of RIGHT NOW!
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 23:25    Post subject:
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How much times left until the auction closes on the card? Yeah forget that 6800GS that guys insane for even thinking about $150 when in that price range it can easily get blown out the water by other cards.


there is like 4 days left ... the thing is, the other guy could sell the ATI X850 by then ... it's on craigslist ... I might have to string the guy along for a couple of days Wink

KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
]Right now Im just sick of PC's. There's absolutly nothing to play as of RIGHT NOW!


I figure I have 2 years of games I've never played to pick from, should be lots Razz

HL2, DOOM3, COD2, FEAR, Serious Sam 2, BiA, MoH:PA, Battlefield 2, SC:CT, company of heroes ... I'm sure there is many more.

I also realized my RAM is no longer going to cut it, so I'm going to get 1GB DDR 3200 (fastest my MB can handle) ... lol, and this compter was on its way to goodwill a week ago Razz


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007 08:19    Post subject:
god fucking damn, now I'm pissed about missing out on that radeon X850XL for $100 Mad

similar card I tried to get:



with shipping almost 2X as much for a card that isn't as good Neutral


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007 08:32    Post subject:
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/sys/265409157.html

I wish I could buy that for you, put 12 of your current cards together and you get the performance of a single X1950Pro.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007 09:10    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/sys/265409157.html

I wish I could buy that for you, put 12 of your current cards together and you get the performance of a single X1950Pro.


goddamn... more than I wanted to spend, but shit that is a good deal. although with my cpu it doesn't make sense... I need a bigger upgrade (ie new system) before I get a video card like that Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007 18:49    Post subject:
Yeah thats why I wish you could get your card of craigslist instead. There are some super cheap ones people are selling.

But yeah thats true you would be putting that card to waste with your CPU.
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