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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:11    Post subject:
Dude, even at 1600 it looks gigantic when compared to other games.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:11    Post subject:
OK Ination you win.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:13    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
Warhammer MoC was imo worthless.


Yeah I agree, I even bought that piece of shit.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:13    Post subject:
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OK Ination you win.

Whoopdee doo, JavaMustard.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:17    Post subject:
Yeah, the units are much too small. Even to the point where you actually have to put in a little effort to locate them.

Also no mouse sensitivity option for scrolling the screen.... only mouse wheel sensitivity for zooming.

I'm really hoping this game becomes amazing at some point, i'll give it a fair go, but I honestly doubt it will.

Just the static viewpoint and the look of bases is enough to put me off. And i'm running max detail@1280x1024.

Also, you can only select game speed in the game as there is no menu option for it. And what is a good speed for the game? I feel +0 (default) is tragically slow, but _1 and higher make some of the units move at rediculous speeds.

There has to be a middle ground where this game looks and plays fantastically.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:18    Post subject:
Is it moddable? I know of a few games that have become much better after the modding community was finished with them.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:23    Post subject:
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Is it moddable? I know of a few games that have become much better after the modding community was finished with them.

To some extent by using LUA, among other things. Speaking of which, where did our resident SC hacker go? Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:25    Post subject:
Playing Gothic 3 I suspect... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:39    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Playing Gothic 3 I suspect... Laughing

How the hell did you change your name?! Shocked


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 17:48    Post subject:
I prayed real hard to the lord almighty? You guess who he is here on NFOrce...
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 19:53    Post subject:
sheesh... i dwonladed this one and hmm its like total annihilation. i really loved TA, played some hard weeks on my older P133 Very Happy sweet times of glory for adventure games that was ^^ so few years larter everythibng has changed... but TA did not. this game looks like TA few years back... camera rotation under space key and then rotating back is one big misunderstanding... HUD... HUD sweet HUD.... its like super secret enemy weapon to distract their enemy... and why the heck game is slowing so badly after few minutes of play when game screen is sooooo smallll.... even videos on gamespot are streaming in bigger picture <_< first thought when i started playing was... errr is it 90's again? its total annihilation 3 and nothing more... except that units looks like ants in pants. m'kay when u play, zoom and rotate it looks fine but when in battles... good old TA... but since i loved TA... dunno... probably i will love SC... but hey! there is not any rts release before C&C3 Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 20:14    Post subject:
ill have what hes having.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 20:39    Post subject:
what the F is wrong with PC gaming??? Is this the kinda crap that is going to be GOTY now. Cant see what the huge excitement was over this title???
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 22:28    Post subject:
hiatus_gsw wrote:
what the F is wrong with PC gaming??? Is this the kinda crap that is going to be GOTY now. Cant see what the huge excitement was over this title???


welcome to the year of 2007 , when over hype crap gets GOTY ... this remembers me Oblivion /well after 47 mods and 2 patches this game was Goty for me but WTF , I should mod a game that should be from the start made right , but no lets release this over hype pos let the gaming community finish the game for us /

and like Oblivion this game supports MODs , so guess after those 50 - 100 mods from fans and 3 - 5 patches from the devs this game will be goty for US gamers , but for now this game is only Goty for those money hungry bitches that over hyped it so much that some think its the new Messiah under the genre RTS ... Sad think about the consequence RTS HUD will be big ass in every game Crying or Very sad ... its just like with DUNE 2 the first RTS hud and every one used it , then came Spacecraft and again after this game every other RTS had the same HUD and now Crying or Very sad BITCHES i what my small and slim HUD back IN RTSes Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 22:31    Post subject:
Whine whine fucking whine Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 22:46    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Whine whine fucking whine Laughing


yeah i whine for all of us and yet again 2008 will be another year when games go crazy ... first FPS on consoles {auto-aim sucks its not a game anymore} and now RTS ... wtf is wrong with them ... the first consoles looked like cd-players and NOW they fucking look like a PC wtf is they malfunction ... this situation remembers me Amiga CD-32 that you could buy a black-box extension + a disk drive to it and with this it turned into a Amiga 2000 that could play cds , play amiga 500 and 1200 games and even the CDTV ones ...

if the situation turns in this way and i see its starting to look like it we will get a cheap console PCs [yeah you can now use USB mouse , keyboard and they even have now big HDDs] that will break faster then a speeding bullet - speaking here about the new next-gen consoles and they problems ...

sorry for the offtopic but this really depresses me ...
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 22:49    Post subject:
It's okay to went some air once in a while Wink

Me on the other hand it's totally vice versa of your situation. I was a die-hardcore-PC-fanboy and though consoles were shit (which they were up until this generation). Now I have realized consoles are great for gaming, but enough about that Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 22:49    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
MasterJuba wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:
Gone playing real strategy games like CoH and Whm...


Well, actually the thumbnail version of the pics are realsize... When you click to see "full" version, they use some kind of sci-fi, csi-like tech to enlarge it. Laughing


See people keep comparing it to CoH and DoW, Ination, but whereas CoH and DoW are comparable to each other, SC is more about epic battles and mass units where CoH/DoW is smaller squad based affairs. Personally, I prefer smaller, but this is still a good strategy game.

Fine then, even Warhammer MoC and Medieval 2 are better games than SC.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Feb 2007 23:07    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
It's okay to went some air once in a while Wink

Me on the other hand it's totally vice versa of your situation. I was a die-hardcore-PC-fanboy and though consoles were shit (which they were up until this generation). Now I have realized consoles are great for gaming, but enough about that Razz


well you don`t understand me i am not a fan of any system i only like games but PCs are build to last new hdd here new GFX here new sound card here ... but consoles can`t be moded well except the cooling , HDD and DVD/HD-DVD drive but thats all ... when a console breaks you must buy a another one or give it to repairs , but in the case of the PC one part breaks - even if you are not a tech guy you will figure it out what part and will only buy this part not a hole new PC from the scratch ...

think about it the year 2040 and the new line of PC-Xbox10 vs PC-PLAYSTATION8 ... WELL I DON`T CARE WHO will prevail becoz we will be force to adapt to the new environment but i fear the production errors , just look at Wii and its Flying controler , or Xbox360 its ring of death ... etc.

i want to go back to the time when consoles where consoles and not like now they must be connect to the net like a PC FOR WHAT to download patches for games , bios , fixes ... i want a system that right from the start is finished ...

thats why i whine becoz i know , that i will be forced to buy in they year 2011 Vista or other OS that will not be finished ... even today we see it GFX8800 with DX10 but with not drivers - i don`t count beta drivers as drivers ... where are we heading ...

and Again i am truly sorry for the of topic
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 00:02    Post subject:
Why are everyone whining about SC all the time?! Its a great game, and the hud isnt very big, unless you play at 1024x768 or something! And also, the HUD is very easy to mod!
So how about this? STOP FUCKING WHINING! If you dont like the game, fine, but dont annoy others with it.
If you like CoH so much, just go play that, and let the real rts fans play the good games. Nuff said..


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 00:03    Post subject:
calm down.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 00:18    Post subject:
Jokkocze wrote:
Why are everyone whining about SC all the time?! Its a great game, and the hud isnt very big, unless you play at 1024x768 or something! And also, the HUD is very easy to mod!
So how about this? STOP FUCKING WHINING! If you dont like the game, fine, but dont annoy others with it.
If you like CoH so much, just go play that, and let the real rts fans play the good games. Nuff said..


everybody is saying the same thing. So who is the one getting annoyed? Guess its just you!!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 01:18    Post subject:
Well... if your not disappointed with this game then you need to get your head checked... STOP lieing to yourself
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 01:55    Post subject:
hiatus_gsw wrote:
Jokkocze wrote:
Why are everyone whining about SC all the time?! Its a great game, and the hud isnt very big, unless you play at 1024x768 or something! And also, the HUD is very easy to mod!
So how about this? STOP FUCKING WHINING! If you dont like the game, fine, but dont annoy others with it.
If you like CoH so much, just go play that, and let the real rts fans play the good games. Nuff said..


everybody is saying the same thing. So who is the one getting annoyed? Guess its just you!!!


not everyone

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-=Cartoon=- wrote:
hiatus_gsw wrote:
Jokkocze wrote:
Why are everyone whining about SC all the time?! Its a great game, and the hud isnt very big, unless you play at 1024x768 or something! And also, the HUD is very easy to mod!
So how about this? STOP FUCKING WHINING! If you dont like the game, fine, but dont annoy others with it.
If you like CoH so much, just go play that, and let the real rts fans play the good games. Nuff said..


everybody is saying the same thing. So who is the one getting annoyed? Guess its just you!!!


not everyone

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head check plz Wink.. Surely we can get outta you that it can be better? Surely...!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 02:04    Post subject:
every game can be better.

But saying this game shit aint anywhere near close.

Im getting sick of the new RTS games that dont require base building or resource styles... it gives u a extra angle to the game..

For example you can strat target the resources so u have to strat defend them aswell

And in this game you can for example setup transport ferrys.. eg set up factorys to build X unit.. and make your transports auto pick them up and transport them to the front line...

+ having good Air + Sea + Land power makes a nice full on war game.

This is the best lan game in a long long time in this genre (Base building RTS).
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 02:27    Post subject:
I finally managed to play at a decent framerate (switched back to my xp hd). I don't know why you guys whine about the hud, it's nearly the same size as every other rts. If you want more gameplay space, plug in a second monitor, the game is designed for it and it rock hard with it! You can leave one screen at your base while following your attack on the other.

Units seem well balanced, bases look great, hell this beat starcraft imho Smile Don't know why yuo all whine (except for poor performances).

edit:
Here is a in-game screenshot of dual monitor, maybe not the best but you can see what is on the right is also on the left one in a different point of view. Now we have lot of gameplay space )



edit #2: Gameplay speaking, can your main commander create tech 2&3 bases? I think only engineers can do that? I know you can upgrade parts of him but it doesn't allow to create higher-tech bases. And why the hell does it cancel the upgrade when I move him?? You spend tons of resources so he can upgrade and he cancel it all because you move it...
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 10:05    Post subject:
The main commander can construct tech 1-3 and experimental. Just go into upgrades and check the arms. The one to the right should have the tech-thingy upgrade.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 10:53    Post subject:
/rant on
The last few pages are full of bitching from people who obviously are not statisfied with the game. I did always find it interesting, why people find the urge to jump into the thread of a game, and start to argue with those who love the game about how the game they love sucks.

Its highly subjective. If i like SC and you dont, i'll not change my mind just because you say it sucks. The only thing you achieve is to annoy me. Even worse, by reading all the 'fanboi' posts, the hater gets annoyed as well.

Whats the solution? Since you can't expect those who love a game not to discuss it and since they can only reasonably do it in the thread of the game, the fanbois can't really 'leave' to avoid the conflict.

Haters however can. If you hate the fuc*ng game, then get the f*ck out of its thread and everyone will be happy.

You will not be annoyed by the fanboism, and we will not be annoyed by the jackass styled comments of the haters. I know that freedom of speech and blah blah everybody is entitled to an opinion, but tell me what good it is to get onto eachother's nerves? Noone cares about your opinion expect those who think like you do. Since in a thread like this you will find more fanbois than haters, its fairly certain that posting crap about the game will annoy quite a lot of people, and only cause massive disagreement. Let's be reasonable please.

SC is a good game. Its not Warcraft where you have your one man armies called heroes. Its not CnC where you have your 5-5 nicely drawn - oh so detailed - units for the two sides in the game. Its not Total War, where much effort was put into representing the colorful ancient / medieval warfare down to the last detail.

SC is SC. A successor of TA, which also had generic units. There is no point in having insane unit detail, when most of the time you'll be looking at the units from the bird-eye iconic perspective. You also can't expect insane variety of units from a game, where every one of the races have more units than most RTSes have alltogether.

About the UI:
1) It can be modded and will be modded im sure.
2) Now big it is, thats highly subjective
If you play on dual monitors, then you got almost twice the useful screen area than what most other games can get you. Funny how we finally get a game that supports dual monitors (really.. show me another game that does this, expect maybe the various flight sims)
and then people start bitching about how big they feel the UI is.

There are games released that have far bigger problems than a big UI on release, or that the units are too generic. The sad truth is, that even if there would be a perfect game out there, you would find something to be bitching about in that as well.

Get a life damnit.

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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Feb 2007 15:03    Post subject:
csebal wrote:
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I should get a life damnit.


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