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TiHKAL

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Posted: Thu, 22nd Feb 2007 23:54 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I may fall into that category - my native res is 1600x1200. PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

vespa

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Feb 2007 00:03 Post subject:

AssA wrote:

xyzg wrote:

try running the fecker through either of the following, these games stutter on my comp with full settings on.

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Gothic 3
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uhm... nobody can ^^

Naa, a decent system (Core2, 8800, 2gb RAM) can run Gothic 3 on 1600x1200 with all the detail sliders maxed without any problems whatsoever.

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2stepsteve

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Feb 2007 02:15 Post subject:

FnF wrote:

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Afaik all the Flight Simulator X D3D10 pictures are concept art and not real in-game screenshots.

They are ingame screenshots.

No they aren't Rolling Eyes

that is someone playin with photoshop even with DX10 FS will never look like that ... FSX is not DX10 at the moment

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Feb 2007 03:21 Post subject:

2stepsteve wrote:

FnF wrote:

Weedo wrote:

Afaik all the Flight Simulator X D3D10 pictures are concept art and not real in-game screenshots.

They are ingame screenshots.

No they aren't Rolling Eyes

that is someone playin with photoshop even with DX10 FS will never look like that ... FSX is not DX10 at the moment

Yeah and might not be this year, either. I've read they have not even started on the dx10 patch...working on regular patches first. So who knows what will it will look like and when. Pretty sad tho, seeing as the devs were prolly the first with being in contact with ms's new api.

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Feb 2007 07:26 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I never trust a image, have to see a movie. Even then it can be rendered. But I believe Crysis.

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Posted: Sat, 24th Feb 2007 16:52 Post subject:

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You will need the latest 8800 NVIDIA drivers for Windows Vista to be able to run it

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FPS Creator X10 Techdemo Released
A DirectX 10 techdemo for FPS Creator X10 is now available in our download area. FPS Creator X10 is a package which allows you to build your own game with over 800 3D game objects including 62 different enemies and 18 weapons. The DirectX 10 version will be released on April 27th. In the meantime download the techdemo. You will need Windows Vista, an 8800 NVIDIA video card with the latest drivers and at least a 1GHz CPU with 512MB RAM in order to run it. Have fun!

http://www.gamershell.com/news/36597.html[/quote]

Looks...so so I must say, this is only judging from the pics, did not install Vista yet!

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Posted: Sat, 24th Feb 2007 20:11 Post subject:

you need an 8800 card and at least 1 ghz cpu? makes sense...

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 13:04 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=2147638#post2147638 Cant believe how good the new DX10 functions are gonna make games look Imagine that kind of terrain in mmorpg's or fps games. Gimme Prey 2 with that! As for the FPS Creator demo, come on. That program/game has always sucked. Just like "Gamestudio 21589 XPF" and so on. Those kinda programs always end up short. Its like showing off Space Empires V as the pinnacle of what dx9 can do.. Just folly "Lokzorz!! Dx9 sux!!" Get my point? Dx10 will be awesome, only if the games are awesome and made with love, just like Dx9. Not every dx10 thing will look good, just like not every dx9 game looks good. Is that so hard to realize? CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 RAM: 4gb Kingmax DDR2 800mhz Video: Asus GeForce 250GTS 1gb Sound: Asus Xonar.

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 14:37 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Im just wondering, if I upgrade to a dx10 card, but stay with my current Windows, will it affect my performance? in other words how well do these cards run in dx9?

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Karmeck

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 14:41 Post subject:

clragon wrote:

Im just wondering, if I upgrade to a dx10 card, but stay with my current Windows, will it affect my performance? in other words how well do these cards run in dx9?

Do cards that suport sm3 run sm2 lesser good,no. So yes ure dx9 games will run faster As long as u play them on xp, if u go vista i heard the drivers is not so good.

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 14:47 Post subject:

Karmeck wrote:

clragon wrote:

Im just wondering, if I upgrade to a dx10 card, but stay with my current Windows, will it affect my performance? in other words how well do these cards run in dx9?

Do cards that suport sm3 run sm2 lesser good,no. So yes ure dx9 games will run faster As long as u play them on xp, if u go vista i heard the drivers is not so good.

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 15:20 Post subject:

clragon wrote:

Im just wondering, if I upgrade to a dx10 card, but stay with my current Windows, will it affect my performance? in other words how well do these cards run in dx9?

I switched from a 7900gtx to a 8800gtx (so a Direct10 card) while keeping XP and i can assure u that all Directx9 games had a huge performance boost ! Very Happy

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For example, i've been able to run Gothic 3 with all details maxed @1680x1050 without pb where the 7900 was crying Laughing

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 20:12 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

thanks for the feed back, now I know what I'll get for my next comp upgrade

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 20:15 Post subject:

bill_the_one wrote:

clragon wrote:

Im just wondering, if I upgrade to a dx10 card, but stay with my current Windows, will it affect my performance? in other words how well do these cards run in dx9?

I switched from a 7900gtx to a 8800gtx (so a Direct10 card) while keeping XP and i can assure u that all Directx9 games had a huge performance boost ! Very Happy

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For example, i've been able to run Gothic 3 with all details maxed @1680x1050 without pb where the 7900 was crying Laughing

Can only concur to that. Had a 7800GTX512mb before getting the 8800GTX. Although the 7800GTX512 is still a bad ass card Wink

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Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007 21:00 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

What i found funny with the 8800gtx is that i bought it to play Directx10 games with Vista for Q1/Q2 of 2007.... but nothing is still there But he, i haven't make any mistake since it allows me to play all the latest directx9 titles on the native resolution of my wide 20'' TFT screen (1680x1050) with all AA/AF filters to the max ! I'm almost sure that we won't see any native directx10 game (so i'm not talking about the D10 patch of COH) before the second half of '07 (Crysis or Alan Wake, Hellgate...) and maybe event not before Q3 ... and since i'm a geek, i'm sure i will have sold my 8800 in order to buy the second Directx10 card generation (at least, if my employer gives me a good salary raise this year )

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 13:00 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Men, I hope game developers WAIT a very long time before start making games for Vista/DX10 only. Because I don't think in buying any Pixel Shader 4.0 card soon, neither upgrade to (IMO) a "not ready" OS like Vista (I always wait one or more years for change Windows; for example from WinME to WinXP I waited almost 2 years from WinXP release (I was forced to update, similar I will be with WinVista, I hope not too soon)) I used to be a knee like you. Then I took an adventurer in the arrow.

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 15:47 Post subject:

NeHoMaR wrote:

Men, I hope game developers WAIT a very long time before start making games for Vista/DX10 only. Because I don't think in buying any Pixel Shader 4.0 card soon, neither upgrade to (IMO) a "not ready" OS like Vista (I always wait one or more years for change Windows; for example from WinME to WinXP I waited almost 2 years from WinXP release (I was forced to update, similar I will be with WinVista, I hope not too soon))

Microsoft stops WinXP support soon, cause its a 6 years old OS -> Developers stop WinXP support -> Games and programs dont work under XP properly anymore -> Welcome to Vista. Very soon Wink

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 15:56 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

What are you smoking ?? I don't think Microsoft won't be dropping support for XP anytime soon. I dare you to post an article or some proof.

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 15:57 Post subject:

KrutojPoc wrote:

NeHoMaR wrote:

Microsoft stops WinXP support soon, cause its a 6 years old OS -> Developers stop WinXP support -> Games and programs dont work under XP properly anymore -> Welcome to Vista. Very soon Wink

I say 3 years and tehn i dont even thing we have (to meny) vista only by then, but more vista/xp games, tahts for sure. I take time for gamers to get a new os, alot of the mwill stay with xp and devs have to have this in mind.

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Baleur

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 16:08 Post subject:

NeHoMaR wrote:

Are you kidding me? The 8800 series has been selling like porn! And i bet Vista has not been selling, but downloaded like porn! Laughing

My dream would be that EVERY game this year has dx10 support and some if only minor dx10 functions and enhancements. I mean most of them will still run on dx9 for a year or two more. You can have both the cake and eat it in this case. Dont worry!

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 16:11 Post subject:

VGAdeadcafe wrote:

What are you smoking ??

I don't think Microsoft won't be dropping support for XP anytime soon. I dare you to post an article or some proof.

Microsoft wants you to upgrade. Isnt it obvious they want your money. They cant expect you to buy Vista if everything works fine for you under XP, and you are happy with it. Just wait and see. XP is 6 years old and they can officially drop its support soon. And they will. Twisted Evil

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 19:42 Post subject:

NeHoMaR wrote:

The OS is quite good, the problem is the drivers... And the sooner the DX10 games arrive, the sooner nVidia and AMD idiots will make the drivers.

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 19:54 Post subject:

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The OS is quite good, the problem is the drivers... And the sooner the DX10 games arrive, the sooner nVidia and AMD idiots will make the drivers.

There are final WHQL drivers for Vista with DX10 support waiting for you in the download section on nvidia.com my friend. All we need now is something good to try them. Wink

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 19:57 Post subject:

KrutojPoc wrote:

There are final WHQL drivers for Vista with DX10 support waiting for you in the download section on nvidia.com my friend. All we need now is something to try them. Wink

Pfft, those drivers are utter crap! I ment real drivers!

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 20:20 Post subject:

LeoNatan wrote:

KrutojPoc wrote:

There are final WHQL drivers for Vista with DX10 support waiting for you in the download section on nvidia.com my friend. All we need now is something to try them. Wink

Pfft, those drivers are utter crap! I ment real drivers!

They ARE real Smile

And how do you know they are crap if there are no DX10 applications to test them Question

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 20:25 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

If DX9 runs like crap on them, I'm gonna take a wild guess and say DX10 will run even crappier... My IMDb Ratings \| Fix NFOHump Cookies \| Hide Users / Threads \| Embedded Content (Videos/GIFs/Twitter/Reddit) \| The Derps Collection Death smiles at us all; all we can do is smile back.

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Posted: Mon, 26th Feb 2007 20:36 Post subject:

LeoNatan wrote:

If DX9 runs like crap on them, I'm gonna take a wild guess and say DX10 will run even crappier...

I only have like 4-5 fps drop in DX9 games under Vista. Not a problem anyway when you have 150 fps Razz

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Posted: Tue, 27th Feb 2007 16:04 Post subject:

KrutojPoc wrote:

NeHoMaR wrote:

Microsoft stops WinXP support soon, cause its a 6 years old OS -> Developers stop WinXP support -> Games and programs dont work under XP properly anymore -> Welcome to Vista. Very soon Wink

Games and programs don't work properly under Vista, is maybe a more appropriate sentence. Anyway, I know what you mean. Going from Win9x/Me to WinXP was a lot worst.

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Posted: Tue, 27th Feb 2007 17:12 Post subject:

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Going from Win9x/Me to WinXP was a lot worst.

Oh dear, it was a nightmare... Games ran half the fps in 2000/XP and compatability was shiiiiite...

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