Armed Assault
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 00:51    Post subject:
I'm thinking of testing the 1.05 Nocd with the key I got from Sprocket just for fun since FADE seems to be mostly serial based, though perhaps Razors keygen might also work if you let it generate enough keys. (Unless they all end in Rzr or such).

Not that much use since all Sprocket did was connect to the server on the first launch to unlock the exe and as such the game is mostly unprotected now but it might be good to know for lan and similar.
(Ofcourse having rival players turn into birds and mysteriously die can also be helpfull)
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Miedin




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 03:25    Post subject:
I think the bad aim comes from the 1.05 crack. I put back the original exe for 1.05 and just disabled my dvd drive + registry trick and I got my aim back. Only the seagull once in a while but not often enough to bother me at all. I just played for an hour and had perfect aim and didn't turn into a seagull yet.
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HostFat




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 03:50    Post subject:
Try to add these 2 lines or similar in hosts file Smile
127.0.0.1 www.armedassault.com
127.0.0.1 www.bistudio.com


( sorry for my bad english )
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 03:58    Post subject:
HostFat wrote:
Try to add these 2 lines or similar in hosts file Smile
127.0.0.1 www.armedassault.com
127.0.0.1 www.bistudio.com


Isn't that the same as blocking internet access with your firewall ?
Why change the hosts file ???
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sexyjesus
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 05:02    Post subject:
You guys are so WW2!

Turning into a seagull is the wave of the future. It is supposed to be a secret weapon and now you guys have blabbed it to the whole world. NOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEFEAT MONTENEGRO??
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HostFat




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 05:52    Post subject:
I haven't a firewall, I don't need it Smile


( sorry for my bad english )
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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 07:56    Post subject:
My latest attempt.

Uninstall completely, delete registry key (even though it's empty)

Enable All internet activity lock, on ZoneAlarm

1. Mount Hatred image. Install with Razor randomly generated key. No internet alerts
2. Update using 1.04-1.05 EURO update. 2 blocked internet connection, neither from the updater or ArmA.
3. replace exes with both cracked versions.
4. Run game, spooler subsystem blocked by the lock (i'm looking into that, apparently it oculd be bad news)
5. game runs fine. 2 whole missions, then I set up a custom mission of sniper vs sniper on the island off the coast.....

Half way through trying to track him down, I turn into a seagull.

Whether or not a connection to the internet can activated Fade.... with no internet connection possible.... it still activated Fade.

Either their cracks are bad or they actually hex edited the patch itself (which is why it would report same sizes across the board)
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 08:53    Post subject:
Maybe the 1.05 version of the game has changed the algorithm for the cd-keys, so that keygen-generated keys are blacklisted but originals still work ...

Or the fade protection has left a trace somewhere. Just uninstalling the game and removing the obvious registry entries (which are empty anyway) doesn't mean you start clean. Maybe try it on another PC which never had ArmA installed.

That "changed patch" idea could be it also, very cunning, hehe.
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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 09:15    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Maybe the 1.05 version of the game has changed the algorithm for the cd-keys, so that keygen-generated keys are blacklisted but originals still work ...

Or the fade protection has left a trace somewhere. Just uninstalling the game and removing the obvious registry entries (which are empty anyway) doesn't mean you start clean. Maybe try it on another PC which never had ArmA installed.

That "changed patch" idea could be it also, very cunning, hehe.


I believe a fresh install could be it too.... but there have been users on here that experienced fade, then bought the game and have no issues with it. So it's obviously possible to do it.

But it's definitely worth thinking about. I personally want to try the update which is packed with Hatreds crack, as the info says 1. unpack, 2. apply patch.... so it obviously contains it.

Yet the thing isn't anywhere. I've tried the Hatred 1.05 from 3 different places. Newsgroups, gamecopyworld and gameburnworld. All resulted in Fade being applied.

Note, this is just solely the crack. No hatred patch included.
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triggadeath




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 10:03    Post subject:
Best way to quickly check if you have been 'FADED' without waiting for the seagull (lol) -- is to goto the training missions and do the shooting training --
You will be able to see the 'bad aim' perfectly as a direct aim/shot at the dummy targets at point blank range misses.

BiS are lucky the game is so good that I decided to buy it Razz


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ClifftonBeach




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 10:19    Post subject:
Not really true. The crack gives you bad aim and seagull syndrome, but it is possible to use shittingaround's registry tweak to run without the crack, with perfect aim. You still get turned into a seagull. Tried a couple times with the keygen, no go.

FADE doesn't seem to be entirely key based then. With crack = bad aim. With registry tweak, just seagull. Both with the same key. Something else is causing the difference.

Perhaps the new YASU will help. We'll see. I'm going to buy it when it comes out here, but I'm nopt big on importing. Until then I futz around with this stuff.
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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 10:40    Post subject:
triggadeath wrote:
Best way to quickly check if you have been 'FADED' without waiting for the seagull (lol) -- is to goto the training missions and do the shooting training --
You will be able to see the 'bad aim' perfectly as a direct aim/shot at the dummy targets at point blank range misses.

BiS are lucky the game is so good that I decided to buy it Razz


while it's not perfect. It at least helps.

I loaded up, when straight into training and fired off the grenade rounds. The went everywhere except where I was aiming.

At least now I don't have to wait around for 20 minutes now.
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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 11:52    Post subject:
Okay, FADE is only activated once you patch up to 1.05.

I uninstalled for the umpteenth time and stayed at 1.04. Razor key, hatred crack. No aiming problems, no birds, no super shot enemies etc etc.

So at least we know that FADE isn't something you're stuck with once you get it.
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Uzisuicyde




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 12:23    Post subject:
just a thought... has anyone tried the 1.05 crack with the Hatred key in the NFO fix?


Also I have been trying with the Euro patch, but not the international one, wonder if this could be a factor? More experimenting today...


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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 12:27    Post subject:
yep. Doesn't work.

I even tried. Get this for desperate efforts.

Installing the clone, exporting the reg key (so it's non razor). Installing hatred, using a razor key. exporting the reg key.

Re installing the clone. running the updater. It says wrong CDKEY. import razor key and run the installer. Upon the screen telling me to press okay to update, I import the clone key again, then let the updater continue.

Exact same result. Clone key, nfofix hatred key (required as the original is german), multiple razor generated keys.

Same result all around. And now I can at least find out if i'm screwed by checking how grenades fire out of the gun, and how your sniper shots are.
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Uzisuicyde




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 12:42    Post subject:
someone's been busy Wink

Well, I've decided to go trade in Goth 3 for retail Arma - less hassle.


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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 12:55    Post subject:
@ Killak

What happens if you change the key in the registry with a random, non-working one ? Does the game start or does it inform you about the wrong key ? Just curious ...
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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:01    Post subject:
game won't start at all. It's in hex code, and changing one bit of a hex code, results in the same thing you'd get if you deleted it.

Game just tells you that the CDkey invalid.
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M4trix




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:06    Post subject:
Well, I tried to install Armed Assault with 1.05 patch on a fresh, clean windows. Fade is triggered again. Dunno, perhaps all keys are blacklisted. Weird protection. We are doomed if other publishers sees the effect of "fading" Shocked
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Peppowski




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:13    Post subject:
i know it was already asked but i installed the hatred release and got german language in menu...there's a fix for that?
thx
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:16    Post subject:
Peppowski wrote:
i know it was already asked but i installed the hatred release and got german language in menu...there's a fix for that?
thx


That serial you used was german. Reinstall and use a key from the razor keygen, don't request aything else plz. And don't install 1.05 patch,lol
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triggadeath




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:17    Post subject:
M4trix wrote:
We are doomed if other publishers sees the effect of "fading" Shocked


lol true, cars steering off the roads... 3rd down and 3 to go and the quaterbacks spike the ball... sims looking at the screen and putting up middle finger to pirates....
seagulls, pink elephants, yellow cats...

lol the future looks bright :/

The major difference however is that ArMa is an excellent game and worth buying... other games that try this 'FADE' shit, better produce a decent game or it will be no big deal to skip it...


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Uzisuicyde




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:17    Post subject:
Peppowski wrote:
i know it was already asked but i installed the hatred release and got german language in menu...there's a fix for that?
thx


Use the Razor keygen or Hatred NFO fix. The games language is connected to which key you use.


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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:21    Post subject:
triggadeath wrote:
M4trix wrote:
We are doomed if other publishers sees the effect of "fading" Shocked


lol true, cars steering off the roads... 3rd down and 3 to go and the quaterbacks spike the ball... sims looking at the screen and putting up middle finger to pirates....
seagulls, pink elephants, yellow cats...

lol the future looks bright :/

The major difference however is that ArMa is an excellent game and worth buying... other games that try this 'FADE' shit, better produce a decent game or it will be no big deal to skip it...


The funny thing is that this game is so buggy (haven't played it, from others' accounts) that at first it wasn't clear if the issues were protection-related or just bugs , lol !!!
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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:31    Post subject:
with the 1.05 patch, my enjoyment factor jumped 10 fold.

My little annoyances like mission scripts not triggering and AI pathfinding is almost non existent.

Now you can actually see the quality in this game, and there is a lot. Vehicle details, explosion effects, sniping from almost a kilometre away. Wicked fun.

I can't seem to access sprocket. How much does this game cost?
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:36    Post subject:
KillaK wrote:
with the 1.05 patch, my enjoyment factor jumped 10 fold.

My little annoyances like mission scripts not triggering and AI pathfinding is almost non existent.

Now you can actually see the quality in this game, and there is a lot. Vehicle details, explosion effects, sniping from almost a kilometre away. Wicked fun.

I can't seem to access sprocket. How much does this game cost?



€ 33.50
(€ 39.90 incl. VAT )

I don't like this god damn online activation stuff though.
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Uzisuicyde




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:44    Post subject:
KillaK wrote:
with the 1.05 patch, my enjoyment factor jumped 10 fold.


So did my fps Very Happy

KillaK wrote:
My little annoyances like mission scripts not triggering and AI pathfinding is almost non existent.

Now you can actually see the quality in this game, and there is a lot. Vehicle details, explosion effects, sniping from almost a kilometre away. Wicked fun.



Seconded!


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KillaK




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 13:56    Post subject:
Thanks VGA.
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Miedin




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 14:09    Post subject:
Although I only get the seagull and not the aim problems I think this game is worth buying. Who knows what trouble we will have with "fade" after the next patch. And you know damn well BIS is all up in here reading this shit.
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Mar 2007 14:10    Post subject:
How does FADE distinguish a pirated copy and the real game, really?


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