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Good game, but I agree on the 20 shots in the head before they die, sucks, at least on the hard level.
Question: How do you turn on FPS? In the consol?
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:03 Post subject: |
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| Flowmo wrote: |
Dude, have you even played the game? The crosshair let's you see how accurate your shots are gonna be, just duck or crouch and your accuracy is much better. This game is not a "RAMBO M60 PWNZ RATATATATA" game so have patience.
And the damage model is not arcadeish. thank you. |
Damage model is very arcadeish. If you disagree, you're just retarded.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:10 Post subject: |
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to all teh pll tht liek cant hit targets and staff dontforget that its RPg 2' I mean its liek teh concept of teh gaem - at the beginning u liek noobz and staff so game will decrease ur accuracy and as u little dumbasses keep playin' u will becom teh pwnerers and like "learn weak pionts" and staff (instead of lvl upping) so game wont fuck up ur accuracy and every bullet wil liek make much more damage... and u becom like teh masterers
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:10 Post subject: |
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| Arcks wrote: | | Flowmo wrote: |
Dude, have you even played the game? The crosshair let's you see how accurate your shots are gonna be, just duck or crouch and your accuracy is much better. This game is not a "RAMBO M60 PWNZ RATATATATA" game so have patience.
And the damage model is not arcadeish. thank you. |
Damage model is very arcadeish. If you disagree, you're just retarded. |
Nice argument xD Retard.
| Antigo wrote: | | to all teh pll tht liek cant hit targets and staff dontforget that its RPg 2' I mean its liek teh concept of teh gaem - at the beginning u liek noobz and staff so game will decrease ur accuracy and as u little dumbasses keep playin' u will becom teh pwnerers and like "learn weak pionts" and staff (instead of lvl upping) so game wont fuck up ur accuracy and every bullet wil liek make much more damage... and u becom like masterers |
THIS is what you call a retard, Arcks.
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shadak
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:11 Post subject: |
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| Arcks wrote: | | Flowmo wrote: |
Dude, have you even played the game? The crosshair let's you see how accurate your shots are gonna be, just duck or crouch and your accuracy is much better. This game is not a "RAMBO M60 PWNZ RATATATATA" game so have patience.
And the damage model is not arcadeish. thank you. |
Damage model is very arcadeish. If you disagree, you're just retarded. |
I dont play on hardest setting but when i hit a dude in the head it takes one shot to take him down... The first few weps are not very accurate tho. It gets better later on. Ill make a movie if you dont believe it
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:13 Post subject: |
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| Flowmo wrote: |
Nice argument xD Retard. |
Yeah, it is so realistic that all you're wounds heal up eating sausage. MOST REALISTIC DAMAGE MODEL EVER.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:20 Post subject: |
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| Arcks wrote: | | Flowmo wrote: |
Nice argument xD Retard. |
Yeah, it is so realistic that all you're wounds heal up eating sausage. MOST REALISTIC DAMAGE MODEL EVER. |
Wouldn't that be a HEALING model then? A damage model is for DAMAGE, when you are SHOOTING someone. It means that if you hit someone 3x in his toe doesn't give the same damage as 3x in his chest.
And btw, give me one example of a game with a realistic HEALING model. Having medics fix you up every 5 minutes isn't realistic either, got it?
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:24 Post subject: |
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| KillaK wrote: | just a word of warning. Don't save when crouched in a tunnel (or crouched in general, i'm not sure)
I quicksaved in a tunnel (anamolies) and was in a small pipe crouched down and heading to the end, then died and reloaded.
I appeared standing in the tunnel I was crouched in, so i'm half in the tunnel and half sticking out the top. Can't walk out, can't crouch..... can't do much of anything.
And I agree on the AI. It's very impressive. I like that they don't just turn around whenever you're near. They have to hear or see you. Good touch. Sometimes i find their movements a bit erratic, but on the whole it's got pretty damn good AI.
I particularly liked when I was sneaking up on the military and the leader basically called out 'stop hiding stalker, I know you're there. Come here so I can search you'.
Small touch, but nice.
Oh, and just incase anyone has a similar system
Athlon64 3500@ 2.2ghz
2gig Dual Channel DDR
256 meg Geforce 7800 GTX
1280x1024 maximum detail (i turn of AA as I don't see the point at that res on a 19")
definitely higher than 30 frames at all time. perfectly playable and looks great. |
cool, i have almost same pc but have AMD64x2 4200. Do you have dynamic or static lighting?
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:29 Post subject: |
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| Flowmo wrote: | | Arcks wrote: | | Flowmo wrote: |
Nice argument xD Retard. |
Yeah, it is so realistic that all you're wounds heal up eating sausage. MOST REALISTIC DAMAGE MODEL EVER. |
Wouldn't that be a HEALING model then? A damage model is for DAMAGE, when you are SHOOTING someone. It means that if you hit someone 3x in his toe doesn't give the same damage as 3x in his chest.
And btw, give me one example of a game with a realistic HEALING model. Having medics fix you up every 5 minutes isn't realistic either, got it? |
Complaining about how a character heals is fucking pathetic, almost no games present damage to the player character in a realistic fashion. It would'nt be fun, which is the main issue.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:29 Post subject: |
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| Flowmo wrote: |
Wouldn't that be a HEALING model then? A damage model is for DAMAGE, when you are SHOOTING someone. It means that if you hit someone 3x in his toe doesn't give the same damage as 3x in his chest.
And btw, give me one example of a game with a realistic HEALING model. Having medics fix you up every 5 minutes isn't realistic either, got it? |
Well, i speak in general. When I shoot a man in hand, I except a reaction of somekind. There's none of such in stalker. Sometimes you just get a crappy flinching animation when you shoot them in the chest. And your characterer doesn't either have any kind of reaction to shooting. Deus Ex and boiling point at least were going in right direction with this.
And sure, I can't give you realistic healing model, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be improved. Having a general hitpoint meter just blows.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:33 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: |
Arcks you've got to be one of the biggest twats to grace this forum. Complaining about how a character heals is fucking pathetic, almost no games present damage to the player character in a realistic fashion. Just get the fuck out please and save us from any more of your idiotic whining. |
Well, considering what kind of userbase we have here, I thought being a twat was plus. And saying that no game presents damage in realistic manner, doesn't make healing with sausages any less retarded.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:49 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | My question remains, can someone mod this game into playable ? |
I'm not sure how they will go about modding the game. I guess there will be a construction kit released on time or another? If so, I'm sure people will tweak the hell out of this game, and the smaller details of the gameplay (less head bobbing back and forth!).
Also, thanks to the guy who answered my question about the mission to get through the military encampment.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 15:53 Post subject: |
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I played a game called action quake 2 long time ago, there it takes like at least 10-15 sec to bangade. I wouldent mind it in here, even longer, something like 1 min, So you should need to find a good hiding place or leave the battle befor starting to bandage.
And i dont think food should heal. It should only have the effect that you loose accuracy and take more dmg and get tired faster etc.. if you dont eat.
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trashd
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:03 Post subject: |
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Medium/Low end machine report:
1024x768
Medium Settings
Static Lightning (this is the thing to tweak for machines like mine)
Smooth game play. 90-124 FPS(!!) on Fraps (check my sig for machine stats). Trying to snap a screenshot for you all but F10 refuses to work.
I was getting 14-20FPS with Dynamic Lighting on.
*Reposted in Technical (sorry.)
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:04 Post subject: |
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Food can be quite usefull though, got a green fork icon a few hours into the game and it dissapeared after I ate one of those healing sausages.
Playing on master difficulty and it was quite hard at the start since I decided to clean the bandit camp by myself, thankfully a bunch of dead stalkers provided some decent gear nearby (Dogs nearby just ran waff waff into different anomalies and boar critters) and now i'm killing everything and everyone that attacks me.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:05 Post subject: |
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Lol never seen so many complaints on how you heal in a game. Yup mutants are ok, respawning enemies are ok, but healing from a sausage is freaking unrealistic. Its a freaking game, what do you expect. In real life no freaking band aid would save you if you got shot in the head. It is an arcadish game, its not a sim like Arma where you have to crawl to a med station to heal your toes so you can walk again. I've seen less complaints about magical healing system in COD2, GOW, and other games of such. I mean, do you have nothing else to complaint about, like bugs? I have a solution for you, DO NOT PLAY THE GAME, or wait for the mods or make the mods yourself.
Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:07 Post subject: |
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Alright, from all the complaints I gather that the enemies are over-powered on hard. So, how is it on medium? And how hard is the game in general?
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:11 Post subject: |
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I gotta say i love this game. Great atmosphere, the combat is great, the AI is very impressive. I tried so hard to sneak around cars and trees on people but they would always see me come around and then theyd reflank me and shit. To the guys comlaining about the accuracy, you gotta realize you are using the worst weapons in the game right now. I've been playing and once you get to the first main town and you find the gun that looks like an M4 and they one that looks sorta like a styer aug you can actually kill people pretty easily. Also, dont just hold down the trigger, take a few shot bursts at people.
Oh man, was anyone else blown away by the mutant that is in the end of the catacombs right before you sneak into the military base to get the documents? oh my god when i heard it scream, and then when it used its crazy powers to throw me all over the room and give me brain damage, and then i barely stagger out of the catacombs...only to get in a firefight with the soldiers...while i cant even see straight! good times.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:12 Post subject: |
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Well i dont recommend starting on easy, because it is way too easy. Medium is arlight to start with, there is some challange but not so much. With each difficulty, enemies just aim better and have more hp, thats pretty much it.
to Tskiller, i totally agree with you dude, the mofo scared the poop out of me with that high pitch sound. But i didnt find that secret room the first time around, so i had to go back and fight the bastard. I couldnt shoot him down because he kept using his special powers, and would always disorient me. But finally a well placed nade fried his ass.
Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:13 Post subject: |
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| BloodAngel wrote: | | KillaK wrote: | just a word of warning. Don't save when crouched in a tunnel (or crouched in general, i'm not sure)
I quicksaved in a tunnel (anamolies) and was in a small pipe crouched down and heading to the end, then died and reloaded.
I appeared standing in the tunnel I was crouched in, so i'm half in the tunnel and half sticking out the top. Can't walk out, can't crouch..... can't do much of anything.
And I agree on the AI. It's very impressive. I like that they don't just turn around whenever you're near. They have to hear or see you. Good touch. Sometimes i find their movements a bit erratic, but on the whole it's got pretty damn good AI.
I particularly liked when I was sneaking up on the military and the leader basically called out 'stop hiding stalker, I know you're there. Come here so I can search you'.
Small touch, but nice.
Oh, and just incase anyone has a similar system
Athlon64 3500@ 2.2ghz
2gig Dual Channel DDR
256 meg Geforce 7800 GTX
1280x1024 maximum detail (i turn of AA as I don't see the point at that res on a 19")
definitely higher than 30 frames at all time. perfectly playable and looks great. |
cool, i have almost same pc but have AMD64x2 4200. Do you have dynamic or static lighting? |
Dynamic. All the sliders are maxxed out, all effects on except anti aliasing.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:17 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: | | Well i dont recommend starting on easy, because it is way too easy. Medium is arlight to start with, there is some challange but not so much. With each difficulty, enemies just aim better and have more hp, thats pretty much it. |
Thats great then, will prolly have to restart a couple of times before I find the right difficulty...
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:17 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: | | Lol never seen so many complaints on how you heal in a game. Yup mutants are ok, respawning enemies are ok, but healing from a sausage is freaking unrealistic. Its a freaking game, what do you expect. In real life no freaking band aid would save you if you got shot in the head. It is an arcadish game, its not a sim like Arma where you have to crawl to a med station to heal your toes so you can walk again. I've seen less complaints about magical healing system in COD2, GOW, and other games of such. I mean, do you have nothing else to complaint about, like bugs? I have a solution for you, DO NOT PLAY THE GAME, or wait for the mods or make the mods yourself. |
Meh its actually a good sigh. When people start LOOKING for things to complain about, then that's when you know the game is at least more than a little decent.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 16:17 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: |
to Tskiller, i totally agree with you dude, the mofo scared the poop out of me with that high pitch sound. But i didnt find that secret room the first time around, so i had to go back and fight the bastard. I couldnt shoot him down because he kept using his special powers, and would always disorient me. But finally a well placed nade fried his ass. |
nice! I wasnt able to hurt him at all and i was getting worried when the brain damage icon showed up and my vision was hella bluring up. was there anything cool on his body by chance? Maybe i could take him on now with my better equiptment.
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