Would you become a policeman?
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TheSaint
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 20:24    Post subject:
Praetori, Sociology at the uva? Thats the same building as i am in.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 20:40    Post subject:
Yeah, most likely. UVA seems like a nice university, heard a lot of good things about it.

And thanks, Nouseforanam! And I assure you, lots of cops do! I don't think many enjoy handing out tickets to teenagers for bicycling without lights on, it's just they don't get to pick their tasks.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 20:42    Post subject:
Praetori wrote:
Yeah, most likely. UVA seems like a nice university, heard a lot of good things about it.

And thanks, Nouseforanam! And I assure you, lots of cops do! I don't think many enjoy handing out tickets to teenagers for bicycling without lights on, it's just they don't get to pick their tasks.


Cool, if i am correct sociology is at the oudemanhuispoort, same location as law. So be nice to meet you there Smile. The building rocks, centre of amsterdam! UvA is okay, only they are fucking lazy if they have to do something for the students....
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 20:46    Post subject:
Well, actually, I'm hoping it won't have to come to me having to study sociology, and I hope I could just get straight to being a policeman.

It's just fantastic to have a second choice to fall back on. And yeah, it would be cool to see you there. That said, if you misbehave in Amsterdam, there'll be a good chance I'll meet you then, too. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 20:50    Post subject:
Shit, now i have to watch my back. Okay lets make a deal, i wont ban you on nforce and you dont give me tickets or anything?

fair enough right.

Btw you already living in amsterdam or?
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 20:50    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:
Praetori wrote:

Wow, sounds like you've been through a horrible ordeal. Especially the part where you were escorted back home by them sounds rough. Glad you're OK.


Yeah! So brutal those policemen! What where they thinking!!! FUCK THE POLICE YEAH!!!




Wink Laughing


Laughing it does sound stupid .


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 20:53    Post subject:
Praetori, out of curiostiy, how old are you?

As for the tests, ginge they're a piece of piss. I know someone who's become a constable and they only got 4 GCSE's, they're not very intelligent by anyones standards. Now, to become an officer, those tests are hard, but worry about that when the situation arises.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 21:00    Post subject:
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Praetori, out of curiostiy, how old are you?

As for the tests, ginge they're a piece of piss. I know someone who's become a constable and they only got 4 GCSE's, they're not very intelligent by anyones standards. Now, to become an officer, those tests are hard, but worry about that when the situation arises.


I think you cannot compair those tests since england probably has others than the netherlands.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 21:34    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:

Btw you already living in amsterdam or?


Nah. I've lived there for 10 years though.






@AnimalMother - I'm 18. Yeah, I'm rather young, I know. By the time I finish the course I'll be 24, though.

@TheSaint - You're right. They're very difficult in the Netherlands. Most people don't get in on their first try - I'm surprised I got as far as I did.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 21:47    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 21:53    Post subject:
Why are those cops bent over a gigantic pelican?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 22:03    Post subject:
Its a 14 year old who got beaten to death last year. He was on some kind of teenager behave camp.

Not that you understand a word, but:

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=146269
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 22:04    Post subject:
Praetori wrote:
Why are those cops bent over a gigantic pelican?


Doing fowl deeds no doubt Smile


Like any job you will get wankers doing it.. unfortunately the police force attracts its fair share of power hungry bully boys. But they aint all the same, theres a fair few decent coppers
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007 23:36    Post subject:
Fuck yea be a pig... but you need to act like dennis waterman in the sweney and call everyone slags
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Mar 2007 11:38    Post subject:
TheSaint wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Praetori, out of curiostiy, how old are you?

As for the tests, ginge they're a piece of piss. I know someone who's become a constable and they only got 4 GCSE's, they're not very intelligent by anyones standards. Now, to become an officer, those tests are hard, but worry about that when the situation arises.


I think you cannot compair those tests since england probably has others than the netherlands.


Yeah but Ginge is in the UK, which is my point. Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 21:28    Post subject:
<Accidental post, sorry>
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Mar 2007 04:02    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Yeah, but they're typically used in gang on gang crime. It is very rare for a police constable to get shot, it's all over the news when it happens.


It's the same way in America. You're watching too many movies if you think that shootings are a normal occurrence in the US. Most gun violence is directly related to our government's fanatical war on drugs.
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MAD_MAX333
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Mar 2007 13:59    Post subject:
Wow nothing personal against any of you guys but i HATE people who say things like "well I have no future, I should become a cop"

The way I see it, there are 2 kinds of cops... ones that always wanted to be cops, gear everything towards being a cops, stay on the right path, get their education and join the force...

and then there are the other kind... the ones out of high school or maybe college who see no immediate future ahead of them, the jobs they can get suck and they think " hmmm, what can I do that seems easy to get into, isn't boring and pays well.... POLICE" these groups of people very rarely get on the force.


I don't know about other countries, but in Canada, although we have a huge need for officers, getting on is still very tough... aside from the physical aspect (peel, OPP and RCMP have some TOUGH physical tests) you have the math, English, pattern recognition, spatial imaging, conductive reasoning, and many other kinds of mental tests... once passed, you take a written portion, essay style where you reconstruct a jumbled up crash into a coherent accident report. Sounds easy but the time limit and their level of strictness puts pressure on you (which it is suppose to do) AFTER that, the background begins, they go over to your middle school teacher and school mates, then to your high school, college.. Talk to your teachers, class mates, room mates, principle... then to all your jobs, friends, neighbors, come to your home to inspect it...

At this point they check your records. Credit, driving, and criminal...

once cleared, THEN you go through the psychology test... i don’t remember how many questions... I do remember the written test being 3.5 hours and it TOOK 3.5 hours... then you talk to a psychologist...

After these if you pass , then you have a meeting with a few (sometimes one) board members who grill you for an hour or so about anything that was fishy in your background packet.

To even advance past the written and physical parts you better have university or college experience and some good job history and make sure to tack on some volunteer hours too... give blood maybe and all that.

After that, IF you get in (1500 apply yearly to metro police, 135 get on) then you have the 4-6 months of training.





Anyway point being... people who have always wanted to be cops, prepare correctly for all this and when the time comes they are ready. the people who just wanna become cops for the hell of it, either never make it or have to make huge drastic changes in their life styles and waste a few years (to fix records, get job experience , get in shape or get more education) to get on the job... if they get on that is. and when they do, it is SO clear who has the right stuff to be a police officer and who hasn't and those who shouldn't be a police officer in the first place usually don't mix well with others.



bah I went on another one of my rants...

anyway, do as you please, I can't change your mind or anything, but now you know how it is in Canada.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Mar 2007 14:03    Post subject:
ginge51 wrote:
i dont think ill be doing this after all as my bro said he ex went to join the police force and you ave to take tests in maths english + others and she failed yet she was a brainy biatch so my chances could well be void Sad

but ill wait on the info pack to see what happens as if i did join the police id hate to patrol the area where i live Sad
so many people know me and i know most of them hate the police so if they put me elsewhere as long as it isnt moss side ffs ill be happy Smile


and??? who the fuck cares if some lady took the tests and failed??? honestly if math and english ENTRY tests scare you and then the people in your area scare you... then you should NOT become a cop... there are ALOT worse people out there who are tougher and hate you alot more than your little local area kids.
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