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Worst game ever.
I have a mission "Escorting Kira" to her house.
There is two roads to Kira's house with small enemy armies on both. No problem passing them but no chance to save Kira.
When the battle starts the first move is for the enemy wolves and they hit (and kill) Kira.
I can't arrange my army before the battle to set Kira back and protect her with other troops.
Also how can I fight a turn-based battle when I can't see movement sequence. Witch troops will move first, second, third... etc.
I think this is the first time I see the game without voice acting at least on the main quests.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th May 2007 01:09 Post subject: |
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You should have enough money for about 5 peasants, grab them and then take all the quests in town and start with the one helping kill the wolves and you will get 2 more 5 stack of peasants. From there you can pretty much do most the quests left and you quickly be able to buy more peasants or wolves.
Also, its better to have your troops spread out into smaller packs rather than 1 large...for example put the hero, Kira, and Helga on the back row and have the front row with like covered with peasants wolves (even if there are only a couple in each).
With Wolves in your army you'll usually get the first move and if you intercept there wolves (or other fast moving troops) that will usually preoccupy them long enough to get the upper hand.
Don't be in such a rush to get Kira back. She has spell I think called "Swarming Arrows" that will buff Helga's spear throw for 60 a pop. Thats well worth casting over the fireball for the first round.
After each battle you should earn enough gold to cover any loses and quickly fill up the your ranks.
Also its well worth buying the the HP and damage add ring in the first town.
@Stoper, if you got Kira before doing the wolves quest it is very hard to keep her alive (at least it was for me), but it is doable.
Once you get wolves and spread out your army the gang banging is pretty seldom.......well until werewolves enter the picture, but by that time Helga and Kira have outlived their usefulness.
LOL, first time in a game without voice acting...wow, that statement makes me feel old.
Seriously though, I can understand why people wouldn't like this game due to its gameplay style or lack of the fluff features we've come to expect (like voice acting). It's a bit rough around the edges, but I think they are on to something that could be improved on with some added depth.
And hell...its far more stable than many of these big budget titles thats been coming out.
EDIT: Oh yeah, holding shift and dragging a stack of troops will bring up the option to split them fyi.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th May 2007 22:32 Post subject: |
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Pretty good game if you look past the flaws and some minor bugs.
My biggest problem right now is finding a rope to repair the broken bridge, any help would be helpfull.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2007 06:08 Post subject: |
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Amoz, you'll get the rope there after doing a ton of other stuff that gives you access to that town.
Sigh, nearly took every castle and totally dominated in every fight but it seems I have to start over again since I attempted a quest in Tokugawa castle, lost most of my troops earlier in some mission to escort a person past some headhunters and it seems I can't avoid a fight with the lord of that castle, even worse is that you have to protect one of the prisoners and he's the first one that gets killed since they attack first.
(Can win the fight easily but due to his mages, grizzlys and archers I can't protect that prisoner past round three and he's essential so loosing him gives a game over screen.)
Ah well one learns from mistakes and I'll kill him some other day but it's kinda annoying to start over again.
(Even got to level 30, but that's quite easy since you nearly level up after every fight once you can kill the undead in Steelheim and advance forward to the nearby castles)
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2007 06:22 Post subject: |
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At what point is strategy involved in this game?
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2007 06:45 Post subject: |
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First you need to balance your stats such as Authority wich decides how many troops you can have, Magic Power / Magic Resistance wich decides how much (if any) magical damage your spells do to others and to yourself, Attack Damage wich controls what it says and Health wich is quite important since most soldiers will choose to attack the player.
Then you'll have to balance the formations of your troops and the gold you gain from various fights such as buying more troops or buying items/spells to support the troops though in the end you get enough gold for both activities.
Ofcourse since Authority decides how many troops you can handle and the better troops take a ton of Authority you have to manage troops carefully. (Conquerors, wich is the best roman unit you can hire in the arena require about 900 authority for five troops, for one example whereas Blademasters wich is one of the best human soldiers require over a thousand for three or four soldiers)
Quests and similar are also important since various responses may increase stats such as acting intelligent or using strength to solve a problem and various shrines and loot can also improve stats such as sharing the gold from the loot chests with the troops or taking it for yourself.
Fighting also requires a bit of thinking depending on if you cast support or attack spells and wich units you decide take out first or the position of the various units wich may allow faster units to kill important troops early.
(Werewolves work wonders against mages and similar slow units whereas the grizzly is quite slow but can take a ton of damage before dying and it also delivers deadly blows to most troops, archers are also important since if they are too far away the can't reach with their arrows but in the correct position they can hit nearly everyone and if buffed by spells they are quite lethal)
Rather bad explanation but I hope it helps somewhat and even if it may sound a little tough it's quite easy to get familiar with the game mechanics.
(Once you get access to some better troops and spells that makes you able to attack most of the early armies you will easily get enough gold and experience to win the following fights.)
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2007 17:42 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the in-depth explanation. This game is pretty damn hard, either that or I'm catching on slow.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th May 2007 03:23 Post subject: |
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Jbeckman, did you only use autosaves throughout the game?
I would have to say Authority is probably the most important stat in the game. I take it at every opportunity (chests, shrines, etc) and pump Hitpoints then attack into my hero with some magic power and resists here and there. Attack power mainly for the 1on1 encounters.
For me the strategy comes in on what enemy to attack first that will of course reduce my casualties. This could be deciding between killing large pack of damage dealing mobs or killing the spell casting buffing mods (armor can be a major pain in the ass to overcome on an Executioner when you first encounter them). Every unit has a speed rating and this makes knowing when who is going to attack next a big issue.
Which brings up an issue someone else mentioned about not being able to tell the movement order each round. While there isn't any list like HoMM to take out the guess work, you can predict the order fairly easily by looking at the Speeds of each unit. The faster the unit the sooner it gets to make a move with the initial attacking force getting the edge.
For example, Wolves are rated at 15 and bears are 12 (both considered Very Fast), the wolves would get the first move. If both sides have the same rated speed (15vs15) then the attacker goes first, which is generally your force with the exception of random encounters when you get jumped.
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| Posted: Fri, 11th May 2007 14:29 Post subject: |
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This has to take the prize for the worst game ever. Me no like.
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