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javlar




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 21:38    Post subject:
The whole TBS/RTS-discussion is kind of pointless to be honest. Best would be to just use the engine they used in Fallout Tactics. You could choose between old-school TBS, "active" TBS and realtime. That way everyone is happy. Stupid to not include TBS because it's a big part of Fallout.



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crossmr




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Apr 2007 00:56    Post subject:
k-limero wrote:


Ok, what other TBS game should i play. Tell me only one.


Space rangers 2?
Silent Storm?
Age of Wonders 2: Shadow Magic?
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mYslead




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Apr 2007 02:13    Post subject:
Jagged Alliance 2.
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k-limero




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Apr 2007 03:32    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:
k-limero wrote:


Ok, what other TBS game should i play. Tell me only one.


Space rangers 2?
Silent Storm?
Age of Wonders 2: Shadow Magic?


I only asked for one game. Razz

What im trying to say is that for each 1 TBS game, there is 20 RTS games released and still people get mad if 1 game is TBS instead of RTS.

Anyway as javlar said, this discussion is pointless. I like TBS and most people like RTS.... good.


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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st May 2007 16:11    Post subject:
Bethasoft better come up with some good shits or somebody's heads will fly


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Parallax_
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st May 2007 16:13    Post subject:
I'm afraid they only head which will fly is the fanboys'. Laughing


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Mutantius
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st May 2007 16:39    Post subject:
ehmm thats the plan Razz


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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd May 2007 22:31    Post subject:
Fuk!!!!!11 now it really starts looking like Oblivion with guns Sad


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd May 2007 23:03    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Crept around the official forum, checked some interesting threads. It seems noone knows anything about the game yet, not even if it's first-person, third person, isometric, whatever ...

I adored the original 1+2 fallout games, Tactics was also pretty good, but maybe it's time to let them rest in peace. I'm hoping Bethesda will give us a great post-apocalyptic world with better graphics than Oblivion and enough RPG elements to make it a deep and rewarding experience.

Also, since they don't have to develop a new engine, I believe it won't be bug-ridden and it should be out in 2008 ...

Read between the lines, it's Oblivion with guns.


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd May 2007 07:43    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:
Frant1c wrote:
http://fallout.bethsoft.com/ Teaser in 33 days. Lets pray they wont fukc it up.

You're an idiot to even have hope they won't.
It is going to suck.
It can't be anymore clear.
Bethesda has already had its way with Fallouts corpse, all they have left to do is judge morons for admission.


Just because you think its a doomed project there is no need for namecalling imo.
It might turn out to be shite, but atm nobody know so we might aswell wait and see.


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BearishSun




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 17:07    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
May 8, 2007 (Rockville, MD) – Bethesda Softworks® is pleased to announce that highly acclaimed international actor Liam Neeson will lead the cast providing voice work in Fallout 3. Neeson will play the role of the player’s father and will appear prominently throughout the game. Fallout 3 is currently under development at Bethesda Game Studios, creators of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion®, which won numerous Game of the Year and RPG of the Year awards in 2006.

“This role was written with Liam in mind, and provides the dramatic tone for the entire game,” said Todd Howard, Executive Producer of Fallout 3. “Liam is absolutely amazing to work with.”

Neeson is known for starring roles in blockbuster films such as Schindler’s List, Star Wars: Episode I, The Chronicles of Narnia, and Batman Begins. Throughout his illustrious career, Neeson has been the recipient of numerous honors for his work in film and theater, including Academy Award, Golden Globe and Tony Award nominations.

“It’s been a pleasure bringing the father to life and working with the wonderfully talented people at Bethesda on Fallout 3,” said Neeson. “I hope the fans of the franchise and the game will be excited by the results.”

http://www.bluesnews.com/


Okay...I won't judge it yet, they might do it right, but this counts as a bad side for the game in my book. Why?

1st because it's same as they did with Oblivion, and it might be the first sign of things to come, OB with guns.

2nd is because I don't like having famous actors for main characters, coz then I don't feel like I'm talking to Emperor Tiber Septim, but instead like talking to Cptn. Jean Luc Picard, for example.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 17:37    Post subject:
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1st because it's same as they did with Oblivion, and it might be the first sign of things to come, OB with guns.

2nd is because I don't like having famous actors for main characters, coz then I don't feel like I'm talking to Emperor Tiber Septim, but instead like talking to Cptn. Jean Luc Picard, for example.


3rd . I rather see that money invested somewhere else. This is purely to hype the game ( just like spending lots of cash on FMV sequences). It's not something that the buyer/player benefits from in any way in the end.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 17:48    Post subject:
vurt wrote:

3rd . I rather see that money invested somewhere else. This is purely to hype the game ( just like spending lots of cash on FMV sequences). It's not something that the buyer/player benefits from in any way in the end.


Depends on...I'd rather see something with nice 3d graphics that actually use my computer fully than some dos looking game. It's all a matter of personal taste imo..some want 3d - some don't.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 17:53    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
vurt wrote:

3rd . I rather see that money invested somewhere else. This is purely to hype the game ( just like spending lots of cash on FMV sequences). It's not something that the buyer/player benefits from in any way in the end.


Depends on...I'd rather see something with nice 3d graphics that actually use my computer fully than some dos looking game. It's all a matter of personal taste imo..some want 3d - some don't.


when did i say they shouldnt spend money on 3D graphics? i was talking about spending money on FMV (prerendered sequence) and expensive voice actor(s).
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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 17:58    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Anthirs wrote:
vurt wrote:

3rd . I rather see that money invested somewhere else. This is purely to hype the game ( just like spending lots of cash on FMV sequences). It's not something that the buyer/player benefits from in any way in the end.


Depends on...I'd rather see something with nice 3d graphics that actually use my computer fully than some dos looking game. It's all a matter of personal taste imo..some want 3d - some don't.


when did i say they shouldnt spend money on 3D graphics? i was talking about spending money on FMV (prerendered sequence) and expensive voice actor(s).


yup, it's not like cheap actors couldn't do good voice acting
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 18:14    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
when did i say they shouldnt spend money on 3D graphics? i was talking about spending money on FMV (prerendered sequence) and expensive voice actor(s).


Ah, just realized that I should have read it more carefully - sorry mate Smile


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s_hole




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th May 2007 06:37    Post subject:
remember how they whored out with the patrick stewart thing
made it seem like he was a large part of the game
and he really had like ten lines of boring monologue in the game
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dominae
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th May 2007 10:32    Post subject:
Money on that Bethesda turns this into cheese.


I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th May 2007 10:55    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
Money on that Bethesda turns this into cheese.


I like cheese Sad espcially nacho cheese *drools*


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Dm242




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 13:46    Post subject:
Bethesea making good games?
Depends on what you want in a game imo...

Bethesea makes good Graphical games... and then sells their engine, imo.

Oblivion etc had lots of items and quests but it never really took the step out into what Fallout was.
Fallout gave you option upon option. 1 quest could have 2-3 solutions, instead of go here find this.
No i dont think fallout 3 will be any good at all in the dev hands of Bethesea. It might look awesome, but it will have no story and no character interaction worthy of Fallout 1 and 2.

Just wait and see i guess.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 16:13    Post subject:
Yeah, before you totally trash the though of fallout 3 - wait and see.


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Hellbeans




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 22:42    Post subject:
I love it when people start these arguments thinking that any development team on earth gives a shit.


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Krono




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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 22:45    Post subject:
Dm242 wrote:
Bethesea making good games?
Depends on what you want in a game imo...

Bethesea makes good Graphical games... and then sells their engine, imo.

Oblivion etc had lots of items and quests but it never really took the step out into what Fallout was.
Fallout gave you option upon option. 1 quest could have 2-3 solutions, instead of go here find this.
No i dont think fallout 3 will be any good at all in the dev hands of Bethesea. It might look awesome, but it will have no story and no character interaction worthy of Fallout 1 and 2.

Just wait and see i guess.


Dont fuck with Morrowind and Oblivion, they got a really cool story, if you just play like youre playing GTA thats your problem, but some people we play the game making the quest and knowing more about the story of the game. And i dont think Fallout 3 will be like TES games, it will be a very extend world like this games, but it will have a more focus concept based in the older fallouts. I hope... xD
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s_hole




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th May 2007 00:04    Post subject:
it's you who's playing it like gta
if you'd play it like, say, fallout, you'd see how ridiculously hollow the mechanics are
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SuicideRun




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th May 2007 05:03    Post subject:
Krono wrote:
Dont fuck with Morrowind and Oblivion, they got a really cool story, if you just play like youre playing GTA thats your problem, but some people we play the game making the quest and knowing more about the story of the game.
i've yet to see a shittier story implementation than oblivion's in any non-consolish rpg.
it was full of potential that they butchered, raped, spit on, and then locked up in some undisclosed cellar, never to be seen or heard of again.

at least that last f³ pic leaves room for some hope.
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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th May 2007 23:39    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
shadak wrote:
Maaaan they better show some ingame footage in that trailer Smile


I don't think so, I believe it's too early for in-game footage. We have to pray hard.


All Oblivion video was ingame and tehy have work on this game for 3 years, i think tehy can show us somthing.
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trancers




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Jun 2007 05:04    Post subject:
all HC fallout fans are like star trek nerds who twist and turn everything even before they know all facts and then spit it to your face
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k-limero




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Jun 2007 05:29    Post subject:
trancers wrote:
all HC fallout fans are like star trek nerds who twist and turn everything even before they know all facts and then spit it to your face


Are you out of your Vulcan mind? Very Happy


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http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-5893832503265569817


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alas.away




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jun 2007 15:18    Post subject:
most probably, the thread mentioned grew 200 posts per 20 miutes
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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Jun 2007 19:10    Post subject:
WTF ?? Fall 2008 ... Does Bethesda need so much time to pollute Fallout saga with level scaling shit ?? Laughing Laughing
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