So these new CPU's from intel!
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 11:00    Post subject: So these new CPU's from intel!
I'm not clued up on the intel stuff as I've used AMD for years.

Well I'm now looking at building a new PC.

So the question is. Which ones are good.

It's now a choice between Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.67GHz (1066FSB)
or the:
Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "LGA775 Kentsfield" 2.40GHz

Now I know the quad is a quad. But will it really make much difference in gaming?

Also how do I know which mobo goes with these cpu's? Like I said I'm not clued up on Intel gear.

I'm also looking to move away from ATI seeing as their new card is pretty much useless againt nVidia's 8800. So which is a good 8800?

Asus GeForce 8800 Ultra HTDP 768MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI.
Pricey but it looks soo nice.

Last but not least. Seeing as I'm modernising. I think I better leave my good friend behind. That good friend being my faithful 19" IIYAMA monitor. I'm looking at something big.

I noticed Phluxed mentioned a 37" monitor. Maybe too big (and expensive) but I am looking at Dell Ultrasharp 3007WFP-HC 30 or Samsung SM-305T 30" Widescreen LCD Monitor bearing in mind the Sammy has a lower response time.

So what say you?


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 12:15    Post subject:
Now that's what i call a PC! XDDDD

Get into nVidia and Intel,baby!


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 12:35    Post subject:
Well it's been ages since I upgraded. My AMD 4000 1gb pc is looking old now. I think I need a better card than the X850 XT PE.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 12:46    Post subject:
nVidiaaaaaaaa....ASUS,eh


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 13:33    Post subject:
Q6600 vs E6700 debate really depends on what ur planning on using your Pc for ,
in single-threaded apps the E6700 is prob faster also price/performance-wise id
go for dual core , just get a decent mobo that's quad-core ready for upgrading later.
Of course if you got money to burn then goe quad-core oviously.

You cant really go wrong with an 8800 so choose one wich suits you,but
i wouldnt get the ultra it isnt much faster and a waste of money,or so if read.

Dont know jack about monitors srry Sad
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 14:26    Post subject:
It's for gaming and I think I'm right in saying that fear is the only game that's used for it right?


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 15:04    Post subject:
Intel is also lowering their price. Might go for an intel after all (about Crysis time)
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 17:20    Post subject:
Quake 4 and Supreme Commander also profit from quadcore. Not much else though.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 18:04    Post subject:
Rinze wrote:
Quake 4 and Supreme Commander also profit from quadcore. Not much else though.


Quad isn't really worth it right now, maybe in the future though.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 18:17    Post subject:
Don't get the 8800 Ultra, when you could add a bit more to that price and get 2 8800 GTX's. I love mine. SLI ftw !!!


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 19:48    Post subject:
Also how do I know which mobo goes with these cpu's? Like I said I'm not clued up on Intel gear.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 20:00    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Also how do I know which mobo goes with these cpu's? Like I said I'm not clued up on Intel gear.


It is often noted if a certain mobo goes with core 2 duo/quad. Most new socket 775 mobos supports it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 20:23    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Also how do I know which mobo goes with these cpu's? Like I said I'm not clued up on Intel gear.


I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe which also supports quad-core,you cant go wrong with
a mobo like this,has tons of features,so far stable as fuck even when oc'ed
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd May 2007 20:23    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Also how do I know which mobo goes with these cpu's? Like I said I'm not clued up on Intel gear.


the most popular MB as of now for those core 2 duo's is evga 680i boards Smile or the asus stryker


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 20:47    Post subject:
beh, dont forget the asus p5b dlx wifi/ap Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 21:00    Post subject:
Jenni,

30" is a nice size, but it doesn't feel like a bigscreen monitor. Having this thing on my wall with my computer showing its background really makes it a nice centerpeice to a room as well. I recommend going big or going home. Monitor is seriously half the experience these days.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Jun 2007 22:16    Post subject:
In july those two cpus you listed will be 40% cheaper. So, you could wait just a bit more. I would go with quad since it will be used by some games in the near future and ~12% less in GHz isn't something to make you go for the faster part.
Get the new P35 boards that support upcoming 45nm intel processors. These new beasts feature SSE4 instruction set that makes encoding about twice as fast. There is a gigabyte one that supports DDR2 as well as DDR3.
I have a 8800GTS for a 20.1 wide screen. I would recommend a GTX for that screen you listed but not worth the ultra.


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 00:18    Post subject:
Poullou (sounds like Chicken in spanish understanding grinhurt)

Where did u heard Intel's goin' to drop 40% of their C2D in July?...will that affect Spain/Europe too?


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 00:38    Post subject:
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=789466


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 02:58    Post subject:
poullou wrote:
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=789466


heh,and the new 975XBX2 MoBo only supports 1066Mhz FSB,but doesn't supports 1333Mhz XDDDDD...not even my MoBo (975XBX) T___T.

Guess they'll release new MoBo's for 1333Mhz FSB?..we'll change our Mobo just for a 1333Mhz FSB?..ow come on!

Anyways,TOO BAD they're releasing new E4/6### 1333Mhz models instead of makin' other models cheaper,like the actual's E6400...or something..

Good news thou is the Q2D (Quad 2 Duo whatever) is gettin' a price drop (the 2,4Ghz 8Mb thingy)...i might get that when i get the money..guess i'll get it before July 22..and it affects in Spain also ;D..

in other words,nice try of the Price Drop,but we can't do a shit with the new 1333Mhz models with our current MoBo's..Intel,we kno' you rock,but help around here,will ya?...

Now i shall wait instead of gettin' the C2D E6400 now...Thanks for the info man ;D
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 03:09    Post subject:
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we can't do a shit with the new 1333Mhz models with our current MoBo's

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2547&ModelName=GA-P35T-DQ6
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 03:13    Post subject:
Hmmm nice. I wonder what the purple sata sockets are for.

Isn't iron oxide rust?

Ferrite core chokes comprised of a compound of iron oxide and other metal elements whose properties hold energy much longer than common iron core at high frequency.


Laughing


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DV2




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 03:30    Post subject:
that's why i won't change my mobo for another one just because of the cuteness of 1333mhz...i'm fine with my 975XBX..so gimmeh a C2Q and let me blow out CRYSIS at Max! grinhurt
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 04:44    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
that's why i won't change my mobo for another one just because of the cuteness of 1333mhz...i'm fine with my 975XBX..so gimmeh a C2Q and let me blow out CRYSIS at Max! grinhurt
There are lot of others features others than the 1333mhz support, like the new Intel P35 Express chipset, ddr3, 8 x SATA2 connectors with RAID for six drives, support of upcoming 45nm processors, etc. Wink

@ Jenny

The purple connectors are on the Gigabyte SATA2 chip, the six others on the intel ICH9R Southbridge.

cf. http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2118
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jun 2007 18:32    Post subject: Re: So these new CPU's from intel!
Jenni wrote:
I'm not clued up on the intel stuff as I've used AMD for years.

Well I'm now looking at building a new PC.

So the question is. Which ones are good.

It's now a choice between Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.67GHz (1066FSB)
or the:
Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "LGA775 Kentsfield" 2.40GHz

Now I know the quad is a quad. But will it really make much difference in gaming?

So what say you?


I think that actually few games take advantage fully of a dual/quad core system, the only one that i have that comes in my mind is Supreme Commander, where my PC1 E6600 based surpasses in a marked manner my PC2 P4 3,4 Ghz ...
There are some cases however where the difference gets nullified ... yesterday i rarred two very similar archives of files (two sets of saves of Titan Quest from both machines, with roughly the same number of files and size) and PC2 beated PC1 ... with a slight advantage but nonetheless leaving me surprised ...
So, i think that the performance of a 2/4 cores system will always be based on how the application uses them ...
Hope it helps.


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