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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 16:10    Post subject:
CrossWire wrote:
Whoops!!! spoke to soon the game as turned into a heaving bag of shit with grenade throwing toss pots and one eyed bell ends, shame they had to go spoil it, must have ran out of good ideas. Game uninstalled and binned. Next please.


Aw thats nice. But theres fuck all coming out in the near future so you'll have to wait a while for the next game you don't bother to put any effort into.

I know this is effectively a warez website, yet I still think the fact that even PC games of this originality and quality are downloaded on mass is part of the reason PC gaming is dying. And people wonder why so many developers don't really bother that much with PC ports. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 16:38    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
CrossWire wrote:
Whoops!!! spoke to soon the game as turned into a heaving bag of shit with grenade throwing toss pots and one eyed bell ends, shame they had to go spoil it, must have ran out of good ideas. Game uninstalled and binned. Next please.
I know this is effectively a warez website, yet I still think the fact that even PC games of this originality and quality are downloaded on mass is part of the reason PC gaming is dying. And people wonder why so many developers don't really bother that much with PC ports. Rolling Eyes

Yup, definitely true.
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CrossWire




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 16:59    Post subject:
They started it by selling heaps of of dog shat in game boxes to the gaming public. I use to buy a game near every week, now its more like one every 6 months.
The whole thing went anus after games became big business incorporating big fat arse publishers whom shitty game developers hide behind thus the occasional decent game gets tangled up in the same mess. Inconceivable. Smile
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streetunder




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 17:15    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
CrossWire wrote:
Whoops!!! spoke to soon the game as turned into a heaving bag of shit with grenade throwing toss pots and one eyed bell ends, shame they had to go spoil it, must have ran out of good ideas. Game uninstalled and binned. Next please.


Aw thats nice. But theres fuck all coming out in the near future so you'll have to wait a while for the next game you don't bother to put any effort into.

I know this is effectively a warez website, yet I still think the fact that even PC games of this originality and quality are downloaded on mass is part of the reason PC gaming is dying. And people wonder why so many developers don't really bother that much with PC ports. Rolling Eyes


Yeah, but warez in not only in PC GAMES... Wii x360 etc, their games get pirated too. So piracy is not only on PC games, but on consoles too. You go to torrents websites and you see pc games, and x360 games and ps3 games and wii games.. you name it. Rolling Eyes
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 18:15    Post subject:
streetunder wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
CrossWire wrote:
Whoops!!! spoke to soon the game as turned into a heaving bag of shit with grenade throwing toss pots and one eyed bell ends, shame they had to go spoil it, must have ran out of good ideas. Game uninstalled and binned. Next please.


Aw thats nice. But theres fuck all coming out in the near future so you'll have to wait a while for the next game you don't bother to put any effort into.

I know this is effectively a warez website, yet I still think the fact that even PC games of this originality and quality are downloaded on mass is part of the reason PC gaming is dying. And people wonder why so many developers don't really bother that much with PC ports. Rolling Eyes


Yeah, but warez in not only in PC GAMES... Wii x360 etc, their games get pirated too. So piracy is not only on PC games, but on consoles too. You go to torrents websites and you see pc games, and x360 games and ps3 games and wii games.. you name it. Rolling Eyes


Yes of course, but console piracy is far less common then PC game piracy. The main reason being that you can't just download a console game and instantly play it, you have to get your console modified and buy a dual layer burner and the dual layer disks. All of which takes time, money and most importantly effort. People in general are lazy, and if they have to pay more so they don't have to put any effort in alot of them will do that.

I can easily afford to buy any PC or console games I want, yet I still pirate PC games because it's so easy. I buy my console games on the other hand, because it requires more time and effort to pirate them and I want to be guaranteed I can play on Live. Plus you know it's going to perform fine on your console, at the visual quality the developer intended.

You can even sell console games back to the store you bought it from for 60% or more of the original price if it's a new game. You can't do that with PC games.

Just look up some statistics on the sale of PC games vs Console games. A game brought out on both the PC and a console will sell far better on the console.


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CrossWire




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 18:49    Post subject:
Tis true, I have noticed how the PC area in all the gameshops has srunk to one shelf stuck away in a dark corner near the toilets, while the rest of the shop is busting at the seams with console games.
Great thing about the PC is you can do a hell of a lot more than just play games on them, consoles are for wimpy she-men.


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streetunder




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 18:56    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
streetunder wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:


Aw thats nice. But theres fuck all coming out in the near future so you'll have to wait a while for the next game you don't bother to put any effort into.

I know this is effectively a warez website, yet I still think the fact that even PC games of this originality and quality are downloaded on mass is part of the reason PC gaming is dying. And people wonder why so many developers don't really bother that much with PC ports. Rolling Eyes


Yeah, but warez in not only in PC GAMES... Wii x360 etc, their games get pirated too. So piracy is not only on PC games, but on consoles too. You go to torrents websites and you see pc games, and x360 games and ps3 games and wii games.. you name it. Rolling Eyes


Yes of course, but console piracy is far less common then PC game piracy. The main reason being that you can't just download a console game and instantly play it, you have to get your console modified and buy a dual layer burner and the dual layer disks. All of which takes time, money and most importantly effort. People in general are lazy, and if they have to pay more so they don't have to put any effort in alot of them will do that.

I can easily afford to buy any PC or console games I want, yet I still pirate PC games because it's so easy. I buy my console games on the other hand, because it requires more time and effort to pirate them and I want to be guaranteed I can play on Live. Plus you know it's going to perform fine on your console, at the visual quality the developer intended.

You can even sell console games back to the store you bought it from for 60% or more of the original price if it's a new game. You can't do that with PC games.

Just look up some statistics on the sale of PC games vs Console games. A game brought out on both the PC and a console will sell far better on the console.


Is not that hard to pirate a console game... :/ its fucking easy.. Everybody now has a dual layer burner... you have to burn it to a dual dvd disc, and thats it so hard to do that?,
the only thing that could happen is you get banned in xbox live. And so what?
If you download a PC game, you cant play online too, or if is a steam game, you could get banned !
And you can sell PC games to buy new ones too, not only console games...

Saying Piracy is only in PC games is dumb, consoles sell more games, because is simply many kids got consoles and they ask their parents to buy the fucking games, and they buy it, hundreds of them. And a console is only for games so people buy alot of them, PCs is not only for games, and many people that got Pcs dont buy games.
So is easy that consoles sell more, or simply for example, one person got a PC & a console but the PC he got its crap and cant run the game, he buys the game for the console not for PC.

Sry for my bad english. and for the off topic.
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roberta507




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 19:18    Post subject:
Top 5 things hurting PC games
1.Pirating
2.Cost of upgrading ( 8800GTX $550.00=Any console+ games)
3.Lack of choice (console have better selection overall)
4.Microsoft for games (Vista only bullshit like Halo 2)
5.3 major console makers ready to spend millions on promotion & development
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streetunder




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 19:25    Post subject:
roberta507 wrote:
Top 5 things hurting PC games
1.Pirating
2.Cost of upgrading ( 8800GTX $550.00=Any console+ games)
3.Lack of choice (console have better selection overall)
4.Microsoft for games (Vista only bullshit like Halo 2)
5.3 major consoles makers ready to spend millions on promotion & development


Im with you in this points

3,4,5.

MS is shit, making DX10 only for Vista, Games only for Vista... Liive for windows you have to pay to play online Laughing And mainly Vista is CRAP, no drivers for graphics card or sound card you name it! :/

1 pirating is avaliable on consoles not pc exclusive
2 Console+ full hdtv + live = PC MAINFRAME
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Freudian




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 20:48    Post subject:
I'd lean more to the "parents buying games to kids and she-men" theory.
But since I don't have any proof at all of this, it doesn't really mean anything, does it?
Some sort of reference (URL) backing up your theories always helps Wink

And regarding the piracy.
On-line multiplayer games with accounts...
Problem solved.

PC games/companies dieing?!? Blizzard anyone?
Who knows, maybe they'll even release a good game next time around.

I suggest we continue this arguments in some other thread.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 21:22    Post subject:
streetunder wrote:


Is not that hard to pirate a console game... :/ its fucking easy.. Everybody now has a dual layer burner... you have to burn it to a dual dvd disc, and thats it so hard to do that?,
the only thing that could happen is you get banned in xbox live. And so what?
If you download a PC game, you cant play online too, or if is a steam game, you could get banned !
And you can sell PC games to buy new ones too, not only console games...

Saying Piracy is only in PC games is dumb, consoles sell more games, because is simply many kids got consoles and they ask their parents to buy the fucking games, and they buy it, hundreds of them. And a console is only for games so people buy alot of them, PCs is not only for games, and many people that got Pcs dont buy games.
So is easy that consoles sell more, or simply for example, one person got a PC & a console but the PC he got its crap and cant run the game, he buys the game for the console not for PC.

Sry for my bad english. and for the off topic.


Can you read? I never said only PC games are pirated, just that in proportional terms they're pirated more frequently.

Try to think out side your little circle of geek/internet buddies, not everyone has duel layer burners, 10 mbit connections and the computer literacy to flash their 360. It's far easier to download a PC game mount it in DT or copy a crack and play it.

There are lots of reasons why consoles are ahead in games sales, piracy is just one of them. I'm not saying it's the only reason.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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Freudian




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 22:31    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:

Can you read? I never said only PC games are pirated, just that in proportional terms they're pirated more frequently.

Try to think out side your little circle of geek/internet buddies, not everyone has duel layer burners, 10 mbit connections and the computer literacy to flash their 360. It's far easier to download a PC game mount it in DT or copy a crack and play it.

There are lots of reasons why consoles are ahead in games sales, piracy is just one of them. I'm not saying it's the only reason.


Yeah well, of course depending on how many geek friends you have...
Most ppl I know with PC's don't know jack about the scene, FTPs, Torrent, DC, RAR-archives and Daemon either.
For them stealing a game for the PC is as complicated as it is stealing a game for a console.

Nah, here's me again, only believing (I still have no URL/reference, though on the other hand, neither do you) that the main reason for the PC game arena is getting devoured by the consoles are the kids and their rich parents.
Now that's a market!
-"DADDY DADDY I WANT SHREK! I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!!" *points eagerly with a lot of snot running*
(And yeah, that's how I picture many of the console fanbois of this forum Laughing Wink)

Though fear not, "Blizzard" (as in what they do/did) will save us all!
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 22:46    Post subject:
roberta507 wrote:
1.Pirating
2.Cost of upgrading ( 8800GTX $550.00=Any console+ games)
3.Lack of choice (console have better selection overall)
4.Microsoft for games (Vista only bullshit like Halo 2)
5.3 major console makers ready to spend millions on promotion & development

I agree with your reasons, but I know what the definite number two is after pirating:

2. Development costs/time

It is just so damn much cheaper and faster for developers to make console games.


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Freudian




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 23:25    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:

2. Development costs/time

It is just so damn much cheaper and faster for developers to make console games.


I think you need to elaborate, and if possible, provide us with a reference.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 23:42    Post subject:
Freudian wrote:
I think you need to elaborate, and if possible, provide us with a reference.

I think you need to apply logic to your thinking. Developing a game on the PC is a lot more expensive than on a console simply because of the number of hardware configurations it should run on. Testing and making sure your game can run on everything takes time and money.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jul 2007 23:48    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Freudian wrote:
I think you need to elaborate, and if possible, provide us with a reference.

I think you need to apply logic to your thinking. Developing a game on the PC is a lot more expensive than on a console simply because of the number of hardware configurations it should run on. Testing and making sure your game can run on everything takes time and money.

or simply go the Ubisoft way and say from to day all games must have a PS3.0 gfx card Very Happy that narrowed the pc configurations
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Freudian




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 01:03    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Freudian wrote:
I think you need to elaborate, and if possible, provide us with a reference.

I think you need to apply logic to your thinking. Developing a game on the PC is a lot more expensive than on a console simply because of the number of hardware configurations it should run on. Testing and making sure your game can run on everything takes time and money.


There's too much bad air assumptions in here.
Can someone please open a window and let some fresh air references in?

I'm not saying you're wrong... I just don't take your word for it.
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Frantik




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 01:27    Post subject:
Well, that's all very interesting but I came to see if there were any updates on how people are enjoying the game just to find absolutely nothing about it on this page.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 02:10    Post subject:
Frantik wrote:
Well, that's all very interesting but I came to see if there were any updates on how people are enjoying the game just to find absolutely nothing about it on this page.


Lesson 1) Once a game is released, opinions last about 3-4 pages, then the kids come in and completly hijack the thread. Pay no attention to the new kids, all the useful opinions are on page 12 (mabye 13) and back.

The game is just flatout one of the best we got this year. And more than the majority of people worth reading opinions from would agree.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 03:13    Post subject:
Theres fuck all out for the PC at the moment anyway so you might aswell get hold of it.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 06:50    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Theres fuck all out for the PC at the moment anyway so you might aswell get hold of it.


which is exactly why im getting a 360.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 07:45    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Theres fuck all out for the PC at the moment anyway so you might aswell get hold of it.


which is exactly why im getting a 360.


No dude.. No...don't do it! DON'T DO IT! NOOOOOHOOHOOOHOOOO *cries* Why god why *cries more* *dramatic music, lays on floor sobbing*

Edit; here's a clip from south park that shows exactly the mood I'm trying to get
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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 07:53    Post subject:
in anyway, good pc game sale good and bad pc games sale bed. lets take games like splinter cell and half life 2 with the counter strike and doom 3 and max payne, this games bring back enough money for the devlopers (more then enough lol)

but as said above, the upgrades and the fact that you need some thecnical knowlege to run games (drivers, directx and other progies) to get max Compatibility.

but in the other hand and please - don't start a fight around this, i used consoles in the past(alot of them) and i allways found my self back in front of the pc and i know i am not the only one - even if you will tell me that console use stronger hardware ,a good optimized pc game, will allways look and feel better. and again..this is not only my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 08:05    Post subject:
Im not fanboi of either, im getting an 360 simply cause theres games on it I wanna play, and some of them may be on PC but of course, most PC games aren't optimized. I have both system then I have best of both worlds.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 08:07    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Im not fanboi of either, im getting an 360 simply cause theres games on it I wanna play, and some of them may be on PC but of course, most PC games aren't optimized. I have both system then I have best of both worlds.


Smile

thats the best thing to do i guess..get the best from all:D
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 08:25    Post subject:
besides, the way kingdom under fire circle of doom is going with PC, it'll probably get canceled, and there will be hell to pay if I don't get to play it so a 360 is a necessity


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CrossWire




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 08:43    Post subject:
My finger was hovering over the shit-bin button but decided to play it again, this time I am going to be really really bad and nasty and do naughty stuff. This game is al loads of fun, that is, up to the point where it changes in to a Doom wannabe, then no fun no more.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 10:40    Post subject:
Freudian wrote:
I'm not saying you're wrong... I just don't take your word for it.

Then, go do some reading about the state of matters, and you will discover this is a fact.

I finished Overlord yesterday. Disappointing ending and a dull last boss. Overall I give it 7/10.


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Anencephalic123




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 10:48    Post subject:
The real reason why PC games is dying come down to one thing. Money.

Money is the driver for consumers and for developers.

Remember printer cartridges used to come free as printers were quite expensive. Now the printers are dirt cheap but the catridges are the expensive part.

Similarly with consoles the consoles themselves are sold at a loss (Xbox360/PS3) or close to zero margin (Wii with Wii sports). This is made up by having higher console games prices (Compare the price of PC games to Console games). Considering the Wii is the cheapest console it is selling the most. Also because it concentrates on gaming (rather than trying to be a complete entertainment system).

A normal computer for basic spreadsheeting and so forth can be very cheap especially when you install Ubuntu rather than Vista (well Ubuntu is free).

To get a gaming pc you need to upgrade your RAM, graphics card, CPU and probably hard drive.

Blizzard is so succesful for two reasons.
1. They don't release games until they are finished. This is similar to console games as you used to not be able to release a console game with game stopping bugs because there was no way to get patches.
2. They aim for the game to be playable on low end pc. I.e. Normal pcs. PC gaming sprung forth originally as an adjunct to the PC that everyone had in their home.

That being said people always talk about the end of PC gaming. This is not a new argument. PC gaming will go on.

That been said OVERLORD is a great game. Try the demo. It provides something new (minion control) to PC gaming. It is always refreshing when new or novel ideas turn up in games. We have had a new genre for at least 10 years. I think Diablo is the last ground breaking game in that regard.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 16:40    Post subject:
Could some poeple tell me where to find those water minion.....

Thank you...
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