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Dear sabalasa, i agree with all what you are saying and of course you have a definite better point of view of the matter since your position.
However, i'm still conviced that, even with risks and no-profit periods, a company that wants to evolve and stay on the market must invest in new personnel, youngsters or not, do you agree with this ?
Take my company for example. We are 15 people counting all of us. 5 in office and 10 in the workshop. There is roughly one specialized dude for every kind of work in the office and a couple of keys folks in the workshop.
My fellow & wonderful colleague electrician was near 60 years old. He suffered health problems from a bit of time. Then one day he had a serious problem and never really come back again, and 6 months ago he left completely the company.
My boss and the company didn't ever wanted to invest in a young folk for substituting with time that guy.
They looked at the economic side only, playing with fire. All of the persons that played a relevant role in the matter, me included, talked with the boss telling him that it would be wise as soon as possible to take gradually insert another one in his job position.
The conclusion ? Now we are without that key position. Yes we are able to continue working but we are not able to make his work (improving electrical/electronic components/parts and similar things). If we won't find a substitute soon we will have that part completely cut, we will still be able to produce the electrical components but without improvements and having someone that come from that field (even if with the theory he was like a child). Let time pass, one year, two, maybe even three or four. They will be serious problems for the company.
Yes we could sign an engineer of a nice level, but it will cost a lot of money, but the point of the company was not spending money ?!?!?!
In this view of the things, even if i agree with all you said, would you say that my company did the right choice ?
Personally i think they are a bunch of morons that are not able to understand a fucking thing (excuse the words) of the type of work we do, the people we need, the positions we need filled, and that look exclusively at the maximum profit in the short range.
However i'm not particularly worried about all of this, after the holiday i'll begin without haste "the search", in the meantime i'll do my part without damning myself anymore.
There are only 10 kinds of people : those that understand binaries and those that don't.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2007 21:50 Post subject: |
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I'm not defending your company management or anything but there might be some other forces at work that you do not know of. I think if the management made that decision then they had good reasons to do so or...as you said...they are a bunch of morons and are heading the company into bankrupcy.
The point of my post was to enlighten the reasons why companies are cautious when increasing their workforce especially with young students.
The working ethics of students are well known...party party party...yo yo yo...
Anyway....if you think that your management is wrong and you've also told them, then you can't do anything more. If they did not give you a straight answer why they decided that way then its their loss not yours. Your morale will go down and they will eventually loose you together with the investments. When they do is up to you how much of this kind of treatment can you take.
rgds
Sabalasa
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007 16:31 Post subject: |
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Hello again sabalasa, yes i have understood what do you wanted to tell me, and i perfectly agree with you and i thank you for giving me your opinions and your time !
Yes i think too that there may be forces and things that i cannot be aware of, the "secret" affairs of a company remain rightfully in the hands of the boss/es, from the work i did however i am sure the company would have done way better with different decisions.
Or, at least, with SOME decision ! It's embarassing seeing a boss that doesn't take decisions when they are needed, just like when my old mate left the company leaving a hole in a key postiion !
For the party party party behaviour you speak of then ... well unfortunately it's not an exclusive "property" of young ones ... up to some months ago (before my "loss of morale") 95% of the time i was doing really something useful for the company, if i had time i always worked on that slew of not urgent work that pile on my desk, now i don't do that anymore, if i have "free" time i try to relax a bit instead and do some of my personal "business", however there were and there are, people that in any situation, when the company went nicely and obviously now that go bad, that work the least possible. I have colleagues of 30 and 40 and 50 years that don't do anything more than their miminal duty, they don't learn, they don't try to better works and processes they follow, every minute possibile is a minute party party party - ing 
It's always a pity however seeing a company get worse and worse and no one, even the bosses, that care too much.
And two great balls touching earth thinking that i'll have to begin once more in another company in the future  It's just like changing gf after 5 years umpf
BTW ... if you open up a tech dept in your company give me a call
Now it's time to salute you sabalasa, i'm going to the sea tomorrow finally, and i won't think anything work-related for 2 weeks ! See you at the next occasion after the holidays ! And a good holiday to you and all of you out there !
There are only 10 kinds of people : those that understand binaries and those that don't.
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| Posted: Sun, 26th Aug 2007 14:14 Post subject: |
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hello again sabalasa with a ton of sighs and sobs that accompany me in these days
wozzzz 3 years without an holiday ? that's definitely one of the pluses of being a "simple" employee !
sigh sob sigh sob see u soon when i'll mentally be back sigh sob sigh sob
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