Official Bioshock Tech Thread (~Please read first first~)
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2007 16:18    Post subject:
Is there any way to get Vsync and AA to work? I tried force on both settings, no effect. Confused

Using Vista, Dx10 mode and 163.44 Drivers. (8800GTS)
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flib




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2007 17:13    Post subject:
Just in case anyone has been having problems with their cards, there was some new drivers released for both ATI and Nvidia cards to fix some inital BioShock problems. ATI fixed an issue in DirectX 10 mode that caused alot of corruption on screen. I'm not sure what Nvidia's fixed, but the driver is a beta driver and I don't think it's specific to BioShock fixing but apparantly does include some fixes for the game. You can get whichever from:

ATI Hotfix (737-29041)
163.44 Nvidia driver (Beta!)

The ATI one is especially important because it isn't included in the main 7.8 Catalyst pack that was released only a few days ago, and you need to install the hotfix directly otherwise you are going to have issues in DX10 mode when playing BioShock.
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GQ




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Aug 2007 20:32    Post subject:
HoLyMaN wrote:
A bit different prob here...
can't manage bioshock work with fraps...no FPS showing in game...tried every option in fraps till no fps how ingame...any idea?
]

Same problem...running Vista and DX10 version...you?

And to the guy who said fraps is working for you...what are you running?
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exon




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 01:42    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Exon, an AMD card perhaps? Laughing


No man. I got a GeForce 7900 GTX.
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ricorodriguez




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 04:40    Post subject:
Does anyone else experience out-of-sync audio? For example in the beginning where the splicer is attacking that innocent man you can see the splicer's claws striking the man's torso before you hear it.
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HoLyMaN




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 07:32    Post subject:
GQ wrote:
HoLyMaN wrote:
A bit different prob here...
can't manage bioshock work with fraps...no FPS showing in game...tried every option in fraps till no fps how ingame...any idea?
]

Same problem...running Vista and DX10 version...you?

And to the guy who said fraps is working for you...what are you running?


yep...Vista + dx10..no luck with fraps
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 11:45    Post subject:
HoLyMaN wrote:
GQ wrote:
HoLyMaN wrote:
A bit different prob here...
can't manage bioshock work with fraps...no FPS showing in game...tried every option in fraps till no fps how ingame...any idea?
]

Same problem...running Vista and DX10 version...you?

And to the guy who said fraps is working for you...what are you running?


yep...Vista + dx10..no luck with fraps


Fraps will not work with Vista. It's part of microsofts DRM protection scheme.


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LastRite




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 11:58    Post subject:
Strange, I'm running a fully updated Vista X64 and Fraps works perfectly fine in DX10 mode.
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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 12:00    Post subject:
maybe better to place it here

i have tested with fraps. IN the begin of the demo when you come out of the water i have an fps around 30-45 is that normel?

im am playing with everything on and maxxed in res 1680x1050.

system:

asus p5w dh deluxe
2 gig ddr2
c2d E6600
geforce 8800 GTS 640 mb
win vista 64 bit
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peacekeeeper




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 13:39    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Buying a DX10 card as of now is pointless as MS announced DX10.1 that isn't compatible with any DX10 card which is pure BS so I would rule out getting a DX10 card.


That's not true.
Microsoft's Sam Glassenberg told Next-Gen in a phone interview, "DX10.1 fully supports DX10 hardware. No hardware support is being removed....It's strictly a superset. It's basically an update to DX10 that extends the hardware functionality slightly."
Article here
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yoyoxp




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 18:12    Post subject:
I've just tried the demo but immediately on load it crashes "Bioshock.exe has stopped working", I tried everything and have the latest up to date nvidia driver and direct x 10 august version (According to MS installer anyway), I am really wanting to play this lol, anybody got any ideas, 2ks forums are hopeless and keep crashing so hoping some of ya here may have suggestions,
specs:
Pentium D 805 2.66 Ghz Not overclocked
2Gig DDR2 Memory
EVGa 8800GTS 320MB ACS3 ed Not Overclocked (163.44 Drivers)
5.60gig free hard disc space on windows drive
Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit
Realtek AC' 97 Sound with latest driver builds + I installed OpenAL fix aswell

Cheers

Nick
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HoLyMaN




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 18:37    Post subject:
dammit...so how in a hell im gonna know my fps ingame...
in all other games fraps work...only in bioshock he doesn't...
maybe it's cuz i have rivatuner installed?

i really have to know how to see my fps in bioshock
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hashleyf




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 18:46    Post subject:
for anyone with shader2.0 and not 3.0 it actually is possible to play this game

on the official forums is a post with the files needed to get it running almost flawlessly on shader 2.0 cards!

I really dont like how some game developers set their games to only work on the newer hardware when older hardware can still run it fine too - very dodgy

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5680
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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 18:50    Post subject:
HoLyMaN wrote:
dammit...so how in a hell im gonna know my fps ingame...
in all other games fraps work...only in bioshock he doesn't...
maybe it's cuz i have rivatuner installed?

i really have to know how to see my fps in bioshock


did you downloaded the lastest version then
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Veritus




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 19:52    Post subject:
Hi

is anyone having a problem with mouse acceleration, the mouse just feels a little off.
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swebarb




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007 20:06    Post subject:
HoLyMaN wrote:
dammit...so how in a hell im gonna know my fps ingame...
in all other games fraps work...only in bioshock he doesn't...
maybe it's cuz i have rivatuner installed?

i really have to know how to see my fps in bioshock


if using Vista then it doesnt work for some reason..
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czorny




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 11:14    Post subject:
How the hell you guys happened to install the game at all? I'm trying to install it and at the end of installation process it checks disk, tries to download patch and then, when I click OK, setup just closes saying that program was not installed.

Any workaround except buying a legal copy?
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xterm




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Aug 2007 04:59    Post subject: Won't even start setup
I bought the game, and it won't install at all. I can't even see the disk in My Computer. I have min. requirements, running XP w/SP2, current version of DX9c. Could the copy protection be detecting drive emulation software? I have Daemon Tools and Alcohol installed, with virtual drives for both...also tried running latest version of YASU to cloak the drives and that didn't help.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Aug 2007 10:55    Post subject: Re: Won't even start setup
xterm wrote:
I bought the game, and it won't install at all. I can't even see the disk in My Computer. I have min. requirements, running XP w/SP2, current version of DX9c. Could the copy protection be detecting drive emulation software? I have Daemon Tools and Alcohol installed, with virtual drives for both...also tried running latest version of YASU to cloak the drives and that didn't help.


I hate to ask a stupid question but you do have a dvd drive at least right. Not sure if oyu need a dvd DL to read a dvd 9 (someoen feel free to chime in on this)

I would turn off both alcohol and daemon tool to make sure that isn't the culprit


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cnZ
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Aug 2007 17:17    Post subject:
SpykeZ,

you should edit your first post. latest Fraps will work with Vista and Bioshock as it has no full Vista support.

Quote:
The latest Fraps 2.9 release adds support for Vista and DirectX 10 games. With games starting to appear using DirectX 10 graphics we are happy to report that benchmarking, video capture, and screenshots are now all fully supported for these titles.


http://www.fraps.com/news.php


yes
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Aug 2007 22:34    Post subject:
cnZ wrote:
SpykeZ,

you should edit your first post. latest Fraps will work with Vista and Bioshock as it has no full Vista support.

Quote:
The latest Fraps 2.9 release adds support for Vista and DirectX 10 games. With games starting to appear using DirectX 10 graphics we are happy to report that benchmarking, video capture, and screenshots are now all fully supported for these titles.


http://www.fraps.com/news.php


oh they fixed it Very Happy updated post, thnx bud


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xterm




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Aug 2007 03:11    Post subject: Re: Won't even start setup
SpykeZ wrote:
xterm wrote:
I bought the game, and it won't install at all. I can't even see the disk in My Computer. I have min. requirements, running XP w/SP2, current version of DX9c. Could the copy protection be detecting drive emulation software? I have Daemon Tools and Alcohol installed, with virtual drives for both...also tried running latest version of YASU to cloak the drives and that didn't help.


I hate to ask a stupid question but you do have a dvd drive at least right. Not sure if oyu need a dvd DL to read a dvd 9 (someoen feel free to chime in on this)

I would turn off both alcohol and daemon tool to make sure that isn't the culprit


Thanks for the suggestion. Yes...it's a NEC DVD RW ND-3520AW with most current firmware, and according to nero tool it's capable of DVD +/-R DL read and write. I spoke with 2k U.S. tech support last night (surprisingly good, they answered the phone in less than 10 mins. and the guy said they're operating 24/7), and he agreed that DT and Alcohol might be causing the problem...I completely uninstalled both, same problem. Possible bad install disk, I'm going to exchange it at Gamestop.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 09:36    Post subject:
It could also be a bad drive. I have a dvd drive in my other computer that doesn't like to read some cd's dvd's unless it wants to or feel sorry for me for blowing blood vessals. Unless you already took it back try popping in another dvd drive.

And I'm quite impressed with this thread so far. Hardly any serious issues unlike other games. Mostly just about fraps, couple sound bugs and people not having SM3.0 lol


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yoyoxp




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 16:22    Post subject: Re: Won't even start setup
xterm wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
xterm wrote:
I bought the game, and it won't install at all. I can't even see the disk in My Computer. I have min. requirements, running XP w/SP2, current version of DX9c. Could the copy protection be detecting drive emulation software? I have Daemon Tools and Alcohol installed, with virtual drives for both...also tried running latest version of YASU to cloak the drives and that didn't help.


I hate to ask a stupid question but you do have a dvd drive at least right. Not sure if oyu need a dvd DL to read a dvd 9 (someoen feel free to chime in on this)

I would turn off both alcohol and daemon tool to make sure that isn't the culprit


Thanks for the suggestion. Yes...it's a NEC DVD RW ND-3520AW with most current firmware, and according to nero tool it's capable of DVD +/-R DL read and write. I spoke with 2k U.S. tech support last night (surprisingly good, they answered the phone in less than 10 mins. and the guy said they're operating 24/7), and he agreed that DT and Alcohol might be causing the problem...I completely uninstalled both, same problem. Possible bad install disk, I'm going to exchange it at Gamestop.

I have a NEC drive aswell and all I can say is great burner but rubbish reader, now I've never had a problem like you say, but I can tell you NEC drives are very picky so it may be worth checking the disc in another pc with DVD drive, if it works I would get a decent reader drive (Pioneers are good I think, Samsungs also brill readers afaik),

Nick
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xterm




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 02:12    Post subject: Re: Won't even start setup
yoyoxp wrote:
I have a NEC drive aswell and all I can say is great burner but rubbish reader, now I've never had a problem like you say, but I can tell you NEC drives are very picky so it may be worth checking the disc in another pc with DVD drive, if it works I would get a decent reader drive (Pioneers are good I think, Samsungs also brill readers afaik),

Nick


Yeah, I've had problems with this drive reading some CD-r's I know that. I exchanged the original disk for another, same problem, so I'm guessing it's this drive. I've ordered a Samsung SH 203B that I'll be getting tomorrow, and I'll try it then...supposed to be a kickass drive.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 02:41    Post subject: Re: Won't even start setup
xterm wrote:
yoyoxp wrote:
I have a NEC drive aswell and all I can say is great burner but rubbish reader, now I've never had a problem like you say, but I can tell you NEC drives are very picky so it may be worth checking the disc in another pc with DVD drive, if it works I would get a decent reader drive (Pioneers are good I think, Samsungs also brill readers afaik),

Nick


Yeah, I've had problems with this drive reading some CD-r's I know that. I exchanged the original disk for another, same problem, so I'm guessing it's this drive. I've ordered a Samsung SH 203B that I'll be getting tomorrow, and I'll try it then...supposed to be a kickass drive.


Samsung makes a lot of bad ass shit lol. The current one of choice is the Pioneer 111d or 112d or something like that. I personally use phillips


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yoyoxp




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 11:04    Post subject: Re: Won't even start setup
SpykeZ wrote:
xterm wrote:
yoyoxp wrote:
I have a NEC drive aswell and all I can say is great burner but rubbish reader, now I've never had a problem like you say, but I can tell you NEC drives are very picky so it may be worth checking the disc in another pc with DVD drive, if it works I would get a decent reader drive (Pioneers are good I think, Samsungs also brill readers afaik),

Nick


Yeah, I've had problems with this drive reading some CD-r's I know that. I exchanged the original disk for another, same problem, so I'm guessing it's this drive. I've ordered a Samsung SH 203B that I'll be getting tomorrow, and I'll try it then...supposed to be a kickass drive.


Samsung makes a lot of bad ass shit lol. The current one of choice is the Pioneer 111d or 112d or something like that. I personally use phillips

My BenQ is phillips chipset aswell, Its a good reader but unfortunately it isnt manufactured anymore, think sony bought em out or somethin, its a DW1640 btw

Nick
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X_Dror




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 19:56    Post subject:
Dunno if it was posted, but an unofficial patch was released that lets you play bioshock partially/fully with SM2.0

http://shadershock.tk/
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Hellbeans




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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2007 22:33    Post subject:
Alright gonna put my situation in here.
I got a 8800GTX, 2gigs of RAM, and an E6600 (not OC/ed)

Basically I got everything at max (if you can call it that) except that I turned V-sync off.
When I'm fighting with more than 3 characters on screen and shooting aswell...my FPS drops to below 15.

Now, I haven't tried the latest Beta drivers yet, but I'm not sure how's that gonna help.
Any suggestions?

-H


Blame! don't act!
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2007 23:01    Post subject:
Hellbeans wrote:
Alright gonna put my situation in here.
I got a 8800GTX, 2gigs of RAM, and an E6600 (not OC/ed)

Basically I got everything at max (if you can call it that) except that I turned V-sync off.
When I'm fighting with more than 3 characters on screen and shooting aswell...my FPS drops to below 15.

Now, I haven't tried the latest Beta drivers yet, but I'm not sure how's that gonna help.
Any suggestions?

-H


Try the new drivers actually, those beta drivers are known for doing wonders. I gained about an extra 10FPS in some games alone with my 7900.


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