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LeoNatan
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 Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 21:06 Post subject: DX10 vs DX9b, according to MS |
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| Quote: | | Microsoft made its very own DirectX 10 vs. DirectX 9.0b. Now, if the Redmond company's comparison won't convince you to switch to Vista, nothing will. DirectX 10 is the next generation graphics technology integrated exclusively into Windows Vista. In fact, Microsoft has been using DirectX 10 as both a leverage and an incentive in order to catalyze a forced migration from Windows XP to Windows Vista of the Windows community. Estimated at 200 million, the gamers using Windows as their main gaming platform have only one choice if they want the enjoy the added benefits of DirectX 10 – upgrade to Vista. And Microsoft revealed that in excess of 10 million gamers actually switched to the operating system since January 2007, as the Redmond company remained firm on positions, and refused to backport the graphics technology to XP. |
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Now, I gotta  @ MS on this one. First, they are comparing DX9b, not DX9c, so you know it's crap already. Then take a look at the image they use to show the benefits:
Like those are the best DX9 graphics MS could fine. 
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 22:19 Post subject: |
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Haha way to go, take a real old game and compare it with something that's not even released yet. How about bringing up CoD4, Mass Effect, Half-Life 2 and a lot of other DX9 games that doesn't look like shit...
Behold his GLORY! Bow for the technical master!
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exitjen
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 22:48 Post subject: |
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cod4, mass effect isnt out yet ..
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 23:28 Post subject: |
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Do you have some weird furniture fetish, or do you just need a fucking cough drop?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Aug 2007 01:11 Post subject: |
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By the sig and avatar, he looks like a couch-potato (or couch-some-other-white-thing).
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 13:22 Post subject: |
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The people in Microsoft have totally lost their fucking minds.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 13:47 Post subject: |
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These acts are an expression of sheer desperation from Microsoft. No company that have succeeded with their project would need to use such cheap tricks to try and sway consumers.
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 14:15 Post subject: |
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No one is to be blamed but them for making it Vista only.
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 14:36 Post subject: |
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While I do believe dx10 has and will in the future yield some tangible benefits, this is pretty pathetic. Why don't they come out with some real preview from a game developed in house that was supposed to showcase dx10 a year or so ago? Namely Flight Simulator X?
Oh yeah, cuz maybe they set unrealistically high expectations for a lazy corporate organization such as they are?
Anyways tho, my take on things? Dx10=good. Hyping it up as the next messiah=bad.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 17:01 Post subject: |
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Quick, call a doctor! Leo has taken ill, seriously this is just typical MS fud, whats surprising though is that Leo wasn't fooled this time.
Also that crysis picture can be done using dx9c just as well.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 17:09 Post subject: |
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It is DX9c...
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 18:59 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | It is DX9c... |
Well nice one marketing it as DX10 then, how about they figure out what they want to communicate before starting these campaigns.
It was the same thing when I worked there. |
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 12:18 Post subject: |
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This dx10 thing is a real disaster. There is no difference with dx9 but the fps are the half than before. It's just a marketing decision to sell more copies of Vista and hardware while it wasn't necessary.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 12:29 Post subject: |
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People, stop saying ignorant things! You haven't seen one thing that is true DX10 (and not DX9-TO-DX10-IN-10-MINUTES like BioShock, LP, etc), yet you say there is no difference. So I ask again, can you say the same thing about SM3.0? Can you say SM3.0 was pointless?
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 12:42 Post subject: |
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| WalkerBoh wrote: | | This dx10 thing is a real disaster. There is no difference with dx9 but the fps are the half than before. It's just a marketing decision to sell more copies of Vista and hardware while it wasn't necessary. |
No. The hype is the only thing that makes it a disaster. But I guess everything is over-hyped these days. Especially "next-gen." So MS is just going with the flow. And ppl expecting something Earth Shattering are just buying into the hype.
The reason the fps is half as before(in COH and games with patch, not in Bioshock, btw) is that the geometry that has been added is an insane amount(especially with fur or grass) that is only possible with dx10 geometry instancing. Also the drivers are still in early development as well as the programming in games that are just coming to terms with the new API.
It was the same as when dx9 first came out, any kinds of effects on screen would slow the fps to a halt and ppl criticized it for 'adding nice looking water' and nothing else. It will get better in time.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 12:51 Post subject: |
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I remember when SM3.0 was first added to FarCry, people said "OH this is useless, there's no difference, it only makes light brighter," especially the dudes that bought the crappy x800. They were like "See everything that SM3.0 can do, SM2.0 can do too." And look where we are today.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 16:24 Post subject: |
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[¿LeoNatan mode?]you are dumb , i am soooo smart[/¿LeoNatan mode off?]
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