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scanberg_
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Uni graduates have no fucking clue about games, Neither do Canadians. Both make shit for EA and UBI. If the original team is lost then thats it - game over.
losers
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| Posted: Sat, 19th May 2007 23:19 Post subject: |
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why even bother calling it dues ex? why dont they just make a brand new similar style game where people wont attempt to judge it based on the original classic.
if i had the money i could make an awesome game in the deus ex style, im sure many people could but stupid publishers and game devlopment companys arent willing to risk ideas and features that dont lean towards the mainstream gamers.
back in the day when games were cheap to make alot of the innovation only happened because people cared about making good games and not games that apeal to the mass market.
sure its risky and you wont have a billion sales but you could make a true classic if you dont try to please everybody.
even mmorgp's have started beeing aimed at casual gamers and the mainstream audience now!
give us some niche games ffs
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| Posted: Sat, 19th May 2007 23:27 Post subject: |
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| snop1050 wrote: | | why even bother calling it dues ex? why dont they just make a brand new similar style game where people wont attempt to judge it based on the original classic. |
The allmighty $ is the reason.
Its the same with C&C3
The game itself had less innovation then a tetris remake but the name sold it.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th May 2007 00:56 Post subject: |
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| s_hole wrote: | wait...
you didn't get the worst post of sarcasm ever? |
Nah, he didnt get it, i am happy that there are still people on this ball of mud who can still see the sarcasm from reality.
We are not lost yet!!
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| Posted: Sun, 20th May 2007 02:04 Post subject: |
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Warren Spector was the producer of Deus Ex, he was not alone and did not design Deus Ex;
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/deus-ex/credits
Also, if the Eidos Montreal team inspires themselves on the Deus Ex 1 world along with the original documentation they can accomplish something amazing. It's not because it's not the original team that it will automatically suck rendering your restaurant example useless. For example: the original Warcraft team is not the same as the Warcraft III team yet both game did sell very well and I am certain many people prefer the third one over the first one. The same goes with The Sims. As another example, Gone in Sixty Seconds (2000) is prefered over the original 1974 film and it's not the same production team.
scanberg_ you are a pathetic little child in need of attention so to help you go through your day, here's a bit of attention:
Company of Heroes
Warhammer: 40 000
Homeworld
Baldur's Gate
Neverwinter Nights
KotOR
Jade Empire
Rainbow Six
Splinter Cell
That's not counting the unreleased games, expansions, sequels and prequels. That's also not counting other Canadians around the world working on misc. projects.
Uni Graduates bring fresh ideas and concepts to games such as Portal for example.
Finally, it's not because Spector won't be directly involved in this Deus Ex that it will automatically be a bad game. Have some common sense.
Note to self: come up with a good sig.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th May 2007 07:43 Post subject: |
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Sun, 20th May 2007 11:34 Post subject: |
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Uh, that looks like IW...
| Malveous wrote: | Warren Spector was the producer of Deus Ex, he was not alone and did not design Deus Ex;
Finally, it's not because Spector won't be directly involved in this Deus Ex that it will automatically be a bad game. Have some common sense. |
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Of course I am aware of that, he was projector director on Deus Ex, and Harvey Smith was lead designer. As much as the individual team members need to receive credit for their work, Spector and Smith orchestrated the whole thing.
Yes, it is because Spector isn't involved that chances are it will be a mediocre game, because it might end up being just another game - not necessarily Deus Ex 3 at all. Just take a look at what happened to IW - that is what I call common sense in pertaining to what might happen to Deus Ex 3 - when Spector was in fact hardly involved in IW at all, and he is not in DX3.
Deus Ex is one of the best games ever, you can't just put anyone to make a sequel.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th May 2007 12:56 Post subject: |
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I'm more curious what story their continuing off of, I believe there was 3 ending and one of them..you became part of the machine and dominated everyone...the end....kinda no story after that unless they put you in a roll to stop it. Would be kind of cool if they had 3 different stories to the game to pertain to the 3 ending's of the first one...but...that would have to be developed by pros and well....the pc gaming franchise sadly lacks that now.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th May 2007 16:58 Post subject: |
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Parallax_ , I agree that Dx3 might be shit and this may be related to the fact that Spector will not be involved but it certainly would not be the only factor. My point was to urge people not to jump to non-existent conclusion; it is not that since Spector isn't part of the project that it automatically means DX3 will be shit.
Note to self: come up with a good sig.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 07:22 Post subject: |
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FYI...not that I actually looked, this game will be as bad if worse than invisible wars....
PlayStation 3: Eidos Confirms Next Deus Ex - May 17, 2007
The new Eidos Montreal studio is reviving the action RPG.
Xbox 360: Eidos Confirms Next Deus Ex - May 17, 2007
The new Eidos Montreal studio is reviving the action RPG.
PC Games: Eidos Confirms Next Deus Ex - May 17, 2007
The new Eidos Montreal studio is reviving the action RPG.
Another multi-platform so 1) Not only do we have hell of a lot more advanced gfx now days, focusing on that is usually #1 to a lot of devs which ruins the game 2) multi-platform games always haev to be dumbed down cause of consoles (yes..even bioshock) 3) Eido's sucks at multi-platforming shit 4) Eidos Montreal is a new studio....ya ok...
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 08:26 Post subject: |
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The second one was not shit at all,just didnt live up to the first one,just about
nothing does,will prob never be bettered.Still enjoyed it though.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 08:40 Post subject: |
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it's a matter of opinion, and in my opinion, I could have spent my time whackin off than playing that crap. 
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 08:51 Post subject: |
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FFS it's a screenshot of DeusEx2, right after you enter the city (if you go right).
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 09:31 Post subject: |
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| ebanutik wrote: | | FFS it's a screenshot of DeusEx2, right after you enter the city (if you go right). |
....and what the hell are you talking about  |
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 10:39 Post subject: |
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DX will be shit because
A) Will be made for consoles too
B) GFX will be put first ahead of gameplay
C) Will be simple as fuck
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 11:00 Post subject: |
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| Palegod wrote: |
I can only imagine that Eidos is making a third one because they fear Bethesda is about to unseat IW from its position at the top of the shitpile, and they know they can make a game that trashes everything about a franchise even more than Fallout 3 will. |
lol! I just now read this haha |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 11:09 Post subject: |
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Nice going guys, discredit a game without knowing one bit of information about the game. 
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 11:11 Post subject: |
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lol the way video games are made now days, we don't have to know anything...especially comming form Eidos.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 11:14 Post subject: |
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| Vodka-Redbull wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Nice going guys, discredit a game without knowing one bit of information about the game. |
nforce style, yo |
Exactly. Just like FC2 was moaned at, then turned out it looks cool after one gameplay video, while stupidly praised crap like Crysis seems worse with every video they release. |
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 11:33 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Vodka-Redbull wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Nice going guys, discredit a game without knowing one bit of information about the game. |
nforce style, yo |
Exactly. Just like FC2 was moaned at, then turned out it looks cool after one gameplay video, while stupidly praised crap like Crysis seems worse with every video they release. |
Videos don't mean anything, just cause a couple new cool features doesn't mean a game will be good, I still think it will be shit. Any game that used to be PC exclusive was awsome till it was raped by consoles. Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, The Splinter Cell games went horribly consolish, Deus Ex IW was consolized into crap, Bioshock would have been a masterpiece had it been PC exclusive but since NOT it was dumbed down. Multi Platform games that are on PC are RARELY ever good cause they don't focus enough on the PC side to make it anything special and PC games these days suck shit unless it's a great developer which doesn't really exist anymore ESPECIALLY if it's a sequel.
UBIsoft failed miserably at making extensions of Far Cry after they bought the rights from crytek and they've failed miserably at every PC game they've released since RS6 lockdown so yes, I'm cutting down this game and I'll cut down Far Cry 2.
And to save myself a future speech, if anyone wants to mention Dark Messiah, UBI didn't develop it, Arkane Studios / Kuju Entertainment did.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 11:51 Post subject: |
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Splinter Cell started on XBox way before it was ported to PC.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 13:17 Post subject: |
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Look - I don't see why everybody needs to look at a game based only on it's name. I consider all games just games for them selves, so Fallout is just a game and Fallout 2 is another, the only thing that ties them together is the name and world and gameplay, but if you look at tactics you see a whole new game that doesn't have the same gameplay at all, just the world and name being the same. So if you take F1 and 2 and see them as two separate games you just consider yourselves lucky that they both turned out to be good games. So in this case we all praise DX1 and we all like it and some of us don't like the sequel but when you look at it they're just two separate games linked by a name and world, but it isn't the same at all, just as if DX2 turned out good it would still be two separate games, no matter if they were good or not. Every game that comes out is either good or bad, let's just hope that DX3 turns out good but actually EXPECTING it to turn out bad or fantastic just cos it's called deus ex is sort of meh.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 16:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 16:36 Post subject: |
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Just hoping for the best...
Deus EX is one of the best games I ever played. I liked Invisible War too, but it was a big disappointment as a sequel.
But I can´t be angry because of a new title in the series is announced, I´ll just hope for the best.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 17:42 Post subject: |
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It's a stereotype already:
Once in the past there was a great game, who then became worse (with sequels) & was cancelled, bankrupting developers on the way. Things can go:
a)Very Wrong - Another company buys the rights & makes it even worse, trying to make money from franchise, not the actual product.
b)Wrong - Another company tries to revive the product, but the new developer has no idea what the f*ck it was about in the 1st place & messes it up.
c)Normal - Another company tries to revive it, gives it to a competent developer who makes a decent game, but not even close to the oroginal.
d)Good - Another company makes the game "as good as the original" & keeps the franchise alive. - almost never happens.
e)Great - Impossible. (making the game better than it was in the 1st place).
What i mean about the screenshot.
It is not DeuxEx3, it is from Dx: Invisible War, right after you escape from the lab you enter the city, if you go forward you encounter a couple of thugs near trash boxes, if you go right, you arrive at the place, where that screenshot was made, sorta atrium garden.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Sep 2007 17:55 Post subject: |
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| ebanutik wrote: |
What i mean about the screenshot.
It is not DeuxEx3, it is from Dx:invisible War, right after you escape from the lab you enter the city, if you go forward you encounter a couple of thugs near trash boxes, if you go right, you will arrive at the place, where that screenshot was made. |
lol what screenshot are you talking about, I don't see any posted here lol |
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