Vista Nvidia Driver
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exon




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Sep 2007 00:36    Post subject: Vista Nvidia Driver
Most power-hungry games in Vista cause an error. The game freezes, the screen goes black and the sound loops. After a few seconds, the game either resumes with ridiculously low frame rates, or crashes to desktop. If the latter occurs, I get this error message:



I did a little research and there’s a "fix" that suggests it's an old .sys file in the system32 folder of Vista, that needs replacing by a newer version. However, I found that to be untrue with the latest beta driver of Nvidia I'm currently using (163.44).

On other sites people suggested it may be a power supply issue - more power needed. I found this to be false as well since I have a 600W PSU and all the sensors report everything is working properly. Also, the vast majority of Vista+Nvidia owners experience that issue.

Does anyone know what the cause for this nasty problem is? (Please refrain from suggesting a switch to XP).
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BeLGaRaTh




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Sep 2007 02:55    Post subject:
I would go with the power issue, I have a 600W psu and thought I was fine with it when I got those errors, last week the PSU blew Sad Luckily it didnt take the mobo with it) but I replaced the PSU as it was dead, and I havent had the issue since.
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exon




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Sep 2007 02:59    Post subject:
BeLGaRaTh wrote:
I would go with the power issue, I have a 600W psu and thought I was fine with it when I got those errors, last week the PSU blew Sad Luckily it didnt take the mobo with it) but I replaced the PSU as it was dead, and I havent had the issue since.


How much W do I need then? 1000?
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exon




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Sep 2007 04:53    Post subject:
New Nvidia drivers are out - non-beta 163.69. So far so good.
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Sep 2007 11:10    Post subject:
If the problems continue, then it's most likely overheating.
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WalkerBoh




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 12:40    Post subject:
I have the same issue on Vista but it happens one time in three/four days and the pc reset solves the problem.
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makavelitha
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 13:11    Post subject:
exon wrote:
BeLGaRaTh wrote:
I would go with the power issue, I have a 600W psu and thought I was fine with it when I got those errors, last week the PSU blew Sad Luckily it didnt take the mobo with it) but I replaced the PSU as it was dead, and I havent had the issue since.


How much W do I need then? 1000?


nah, 600w is enough, even 450w - 550w would be enough if u buy a branded PSU (e.g. Enermax, Tagan, Be Quiet, OCZ etc...)

i've a Be Quiet 600w PSU and i can play all games without any problems

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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 13:38    Post subject:
I had this problem too a few times but it seems to have fixed itself as I dont experince it anymore. I did not make any hardware changes to my system but I did replug my pc cables. My PSU is an Antec TruePower Trio V2.2 650W


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exon




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2007 00:02    Post subject:
Well I just played Stranglehold and the problem is still there. How can I know for sure that my PSU is insufficient? I know for a fact that it's not a driver or temperature problem. That only leaves the PSU or Vista.
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yoyoxp




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2007 00:45    Post subject:
Hmm, Nvidias Vista drivers are real poor and the installations imo are really fuxored so I would think this prob be a corrupt driver install, I got something simular when installing a BETA Driver over a WHQL one and heres how I solved it:
Uninstall Nvidia Display Driver using Programs And Features in control panel
Download a proggie called Driver Sweeper (It is a free Driver Cleaning app)
Boot vista into safe mode (Hit F8 @ startup) and open driver sweeper, select Nvidia display driver and click on clean
Now reboot back into normal mode and install the latest non beta driver and see how u get on, This fixed my issiue getting this crash frequently in games in vista

Nick
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exon




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2007 03:15    Post subject:
yoyoxp wrote:
Hmm, Nvidias Vista drivers are real poor and the installations imo are really fuxored so I would think this prob be a corrupt driver install, I got something simular when installing a BETA Driver over a WHQL one and heres how I solved it:
Uninstall Nvidia Display Driver using Programs And Features in control panel
Download a proggie called Driver Sweeper (It is a free Driver Cleaning app)
Boot vista into safe mode (Hit F8 @ startup) and open driver sweeper, select Nvidia display driver and click on clean
Now reboot back into normal mode and install the latest non beta driver and see how u get on, This fixed my issiue getting this crash frequently in games in vista

Nick


I did as you suggested but the problem persists. Btw, when I don't get lockups, I get black boxes that randomly appear on my screen during a game. Here's a screenshot from Strangehold with the black boxes:

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yoyoxp




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2007 15:49    Post subject:
exon wrote:
yoyoxp wrote:
Hmm, Nvidias Vista drivers are real poor and the installations imo are really fuxored so I would think this prob be a corrupt driver install, I got something simular when installing a BETA Driver over a WHQL one and heres how I solved it:
Uninstall Nvidia Display Driver using Programs And Features in control panel
Download a proggie called Driver Sweeper (It is a free Driver Cleaning app)
Boot vista into safe mode (Hit F8 @ startup) and open driver sweeper, select Nvidia display driver and click on clean
Now reboot back into normal mode and install the latest non beta driver and see how u get on, This fixed my issiue getting this crash frequently in games in vista

Nick


I did as you suggested but the problem persists. Btw, when I don't get lockups, I get black boxes that randomly appear on my screen during a game. Here's a screenshot from Strangehold with the black boxes:


Ahh graphic corruption like black boxes would likely be hardware fault! Id return the card and see, Could also be a PSU fault as others said here, my guess is GPU is overheating

Nick
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exon




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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Sep 2007 23:42    Post subject:
yoyoxp wrote:
exon wrote:
yoyoxp wrote:
Hmm, Nvidias Vista drivers are real poor and the installations imo are really fuxored so I would think this prob be a corrupt driver install, I got something simular when installing a BETA Driver over a WHQL one and heres how I solved it:
Uninstall Nvidia Display Driver using Programs And Features in control panel
Download a proggie called Driver Sweeper (It is a free Driver Cleaning app)
Boot vista into safe mode (Hit F8 @ startup) and open driver sweeper, select Nvidia display driver and click on clean
Now reboot back into normal mode and install the latest non beta driver and see how u get on, This fixed my issiue getting this crash frequently in games in vista

Nick


I did as you suggested but the problem persists. Btw, when I don't get lockups, I get black boxes that randomly appear on my screen during a game. Here's a screenshot from Strangehold with the black boxes:


Ahh graphic corruption like black boxes would likely be hardware fault! Id return the card and see, Could also be a PSU fault as others said here, my guess is GPU is overheating

Nick


Problem solved! I bought a new Corsair 620W PSU and everything works perfectly. Godamn power consumption…

EDIT: I was too quick to reply. The problem is there still. I've noticed the temp during a game is about 65C. Is it the card or should I just get a better cooling solution?
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WalkerBoh




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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Sep 2007 07:51    Post subject:
It's not an hardware issue. A lot of people have this driver error message. You can just search on google to see that. Moreover on XP everything works fine.
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exon




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2007 00:55    Post subject:
WalkerBoh wrote:
It's not an hardware issue. A lot of people have this driver error message. You can just search on google to see that. Moreover on XP everything works fine.


So how do you explain the black boxes?
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2007 01:07    Post subject:
That reminds me of checkerboarding with the old 9500 unlocked to a 9700 in the good old days... Razz



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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Sep 2007 13:48    Post subject:
exon wrote:
WalkerBoh wrote:
It's not an hardware issue. A lot of people have this driver error message. You can just search on google to see that. Moreover on XP everything works fine.


So how do you explain the black boxes?


Is this the only game with the black boxes symptoms? If so it might just be with the game. I know I have received the same error countless times with certain nvidia driver revs. Each time I clear previous drivers. It seems like russian roulette with nvidia.

But yeah, if you are getting gfx artifacts and lock-ups in games known to run stable in vista(Bioshock is a great example-I get lockups in COH and stalker), then yeah I would look into hardware issues.


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RiCE




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Sep 2007 13:21    Post subject:
If guess its either a hardware issue (prolly overheating or memory failure) or something (the game you play or the driver you use) forces the card to multiGPU mode (SLI in nvidia case). But dear exon, if you asking about an error like this, then please write down what type of NV card do you have.. its possible you downloaded wrong driver 'cause Gef6-7 series have different driver then Gef8 series. Check it.. and dont use beta drivers. I had never seen any error like this, since ive stoped using crappy drivers.. only officially released drivers (if its WHQL, then its better). And yes.. i also use vista!
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Shadow_Master




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 22:19    Post subject:
i had this msg when i got my self a new comp but after a little research i found it that i was a ram thing . i my case i had a pqi ram and it was a mistake becouse it wasnt on the compatible list for my motherboard and when i change my ram to kingstone ram that was in the compatible list everything works great.
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exon




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 20:40    Post subject:
It was a faulty card.
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Liv2roc




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Oct 2007 01:53    Post subject:
I had the same problem playing world in conflict running 163.69 drivers
I booted to safe mode uninstalled them and rebooted and installed 163.71 beta drivers
been runing for 3 days with no errors.


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