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| CaptainCox wrote: | | R6Vegas kicked huge ass on PC! |
It's not the point of how awsome the game itself was, it was the fact that UBIsoft gives as much shit about the PC fanbase as I do peoples feelings. They lack support and any respect to their customers. The game was also a sloppy port with shitty performance. You have to have been a member on their forums and played old school ubi games and compare them to how their doing shit now. IT's really sad as they used to be one of our best companies. After they got boycotted for using starforce they stopped giving a shit. Their no longer a game company. Yes I know they want money like all companies do but their not gamers. They only do it for the money. Not to be innovative, not to release ground breaking gameplay, not to be that one company people can get excited about a
new release, no, they want money pure and simple. Irrational Games(2K Boston/Austrailia) are developers, Relic are developers, ID Software, Splash Damage, Monolith, Sierra, and everyone else who doesn't suck are developers. They care about their games, how they perform and keep their people happy.
Ubi hasn't released a game on PC and followed it on how they used to. Chaos Theory was their last real PC game. Made for PC gamers, Optimized for PC use and even had the pc game feel to it. After that it's been nothing but shit. Vegas was buggy, and very unoptimized. It used the UE3 and people claim that's why it was so hard to run. Call BS on that, bioshock is on the UE3 engine too it looks twice as good as vegas AND it runs rock solid. Their games are ported FROM console versions and they take no time to give us PC users the PC feel we need.
Watch their forums sometime, you'll see how much they care about their pc fanbase.
~Grin was banned from their forums so they couldn't be in contact with the customers to get bugs fixed.
~UBI made a post about some submarine game I forget which that had bugs that made the game unfinishable and quests not working. They bluntly said in order for them to patch the game how it was supposed to the users had to VOTE to get a patch and if there was enough people, they would do it.
~Ubi said they would release a dedicated server for vegas in their I believe 1.03 patch. Upon release people quickly realized there wasn't one. When people went back to complain about it, they discovered ubi went and deleted all threads and posts claiming they would.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 11:41 Post subject: |
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Ah yea, regarding the support I totally agree. We had to beg and pray to get 1.3 for Silent Hunter 4. The devs did it (and they did a good job, and it was not their fault) after a massive fan based campaign DEMADING a patch. But hey, the money rules, and if you have grown to one of the planets biggest game producer(EA is still nr1 I guess)...well look at MS and other global players. $$$$$$$$$$$$, that's just how it is.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 11:43 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | | Ah yea, regarding the support I totally agree. We had to beg and pray to get 1.3 for Silent Hunter 4. The devs did it (and they did a good job, and it was not their fault) after a massive fan based campaign DEMADING a patch. But hey, the money rules, and if you have grown to the planets biggest game producer...well look at MS and other global players. $$$$$$$$$$$$, that's just how it is. |
Theres a huge difference between MS and UBi. MS doesn't make shitty games. Reguardless of how money hungry MS is, fact known they make sweet fucking games. Only game I've played/seen that had ms's name on it either as publisher or dev was shadowrun that sucked shit. Freelancer, Halo (yes I know the game itself sucked fucksticks but it was amusing and had co-op support and MP was fun on lan) Gears of War, Dungeon Siege etc. You'll also quickly realized their games released have almost no patches, mainly because their not needed. Freelancer had...1 patch, and that was for network stability.
Also you'll have to watch those Assassins creed videos a littler closer when talking about the control scheme. X360 controllers have triggers which are controls by sensativity which is used in the game to determin how hard your hits are going to be etc. Now keeping in mind that 1) PC has nothing like this, nothing that detects sensativity. 2) It's going to be a cross platform release, that means their porting it, keep in mind UBI does the worst job at porting, how good do you think their going to do on these controls and to what motivation will they have to give a rat's ass about us.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 12:22 Post subject: |
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add to the Ubishit crapy ports "POP2 Warrior Within" that has sOOOO many controll buttons that this game forced you to buy a 12 button pad FOR THE PC , WTF !!??? when the "POP: Sand of Time" only needed 2 mouse buttons and WASD , this was just bulls****
Well now at lest we know why "POP2 Warrior Within" and "POP3 Two Thornes" where such a crapy games - Jordan Mechner made the first game the other where just CRAP
Anyway for the info Jordan Mechner in back in the game industry , he is now making a RTS game based in the Another World Universe
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 13:52 Post subject: |
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Jordan was part of TTT as well, and all three PoP games were awesome, with WW the least favorite of mine, but good nonetheless.
About Vegas, you got to hand it to them, at least they released a patch and the map pack. They could have just ignored us PC gamers.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 13:58 Post subject: |
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| BlueSkyz wrote: | add to the Ubishit crapy ports "POP2 Warrior Within" that has sOOOO many controll buttons that this game forced you to buy a 12 button pad FOR THE PC , WTF !!??? when the "POP: Sand of Time" only needed 2 mouse buttons and WASD , this was just bulls****
Well now at lest we know why "POP2 Warrior Within" and "POP3 Two Thornes" where such a crapy games - Jordan Mechner made the first game the other where just CRAP
Anyway for the info Jordan Mechner in back in the game industry , he is now making a RTS game based in the Another World Universe |
Cant wait for that!
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 16:49 Post subject: |
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Another exampled of how much UBI soft doesn't give a fuck about there pc fan base. They discontinued dark messiah of might & magic support 6 months after release. Then released it on 360 with all the necessary fixes that the pc version needed.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 17:04 Post subject: |
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well either way they discontinued suporting the pc version which is shit.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 17:05 Post subject: |
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| Ace170780 wrote: | | Another exampled of how much UBI soft doesn't give a fuck about there pc fan base. They discontinued dark messiah of might & magic support 6 months after release. Then released it on 360 with all the necessary fixes that the pc version needed. |
+ they get a lvl(s) that the pc version did not have-
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Sep 2007 18:08 Post subject: |
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New live demo and talk from the penny arcade expo PAX. The talk was really interesting I think, they showed amongst other things a "target gameplay video" that was pretty cool. The live demo was the level you've seen before, ofcourse with others paths taken and another rundown of that slaver guy. Also he said something about playthrough time, was it 20 hours + noob time?
You can find better quality of the gameplay (like on gametrailers) but this here is the complete show: http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3143792&type=game&sec=VIDEOS in 4 parts.
Review: Game looks the same (its also the E3 demo version :-P). Assassin dude now has a lot of lifebar. Control scheme looks good atleast for a 360 pad as people here have talked about. Moves look excellent both combat and running. And I've sorta gotten used to seeing the "targetting" FX..
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 15:21 Post subject: |
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PC version will come "sometime" 2008  Another PC let down...Long live the consoles and all that BS!
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 15:36 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | | PC version will come "sometime" 2008 Another PC let down...Long live the consoles and all that BS! |
You better be joking, and if you are, you better be hiding as well. |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 15:40 Post subject: |
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Nope. Just read it on a German game site (linked to this one below). The PS3 and 360 will be out as planned in November.
| Quote: | » Assassin's Creed For PC Pushed Back To 2008
In a news release today, publisher UbiSoft announced their fall/holiday 2007 line-up of games. One of those games is the long awaited third person action game Assassin's Creed. However while the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game will be coming out this fall, UbiSoft has decided to push back the PC release of the game until early 2008. |
http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=17532
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 15:44 Post subject: |
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who cares? maybe that'll give them more time to give pc gamers a version that isn't total shit, as most of ubi's pc games lately
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 15:44 Post subject: |
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I fear another port...actually its pretty obvious
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 16:15 Post subject: |
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| mike- wrote: | | who cares? maybe that'll give them more time to give pc gamers a version that isn't total shit, as most of ubi's pc games lately |
It just proves one thing yet again; PC is on the backburner for most companies, and is yet again the losing part when it comes to gaming. |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 16:27 Post subject: |
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| mike- wrote: | | who cares? maybe that'll give them more time to give pc gamers a version that isn't total shit, as most of ubi's pc games lately |
lol you must not have been following UBI very well. Their one of the worst PC developers now next to EA. Their ports are sloppy unoptimized shit, and if it's silent hill, buggy as hell, and ot make matters worse, it's being done by montreal...last game they did right was chaos theory. So as I expect, this game will suck on PC, as all ubi games do
Assassin's Creed
Batman Vengeance
Disney's Tarzan Untamed
Far Cry 2
Lost: The Videogame
Open Season
Peter Jackson's King Kong
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Surf's Up
TMNT
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory -- Limited Collector's Edition
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 16:30 Post subject: |
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yeah but look at the positive side... atleast its free 
i support developers by buying good games if i can afford them, but in this case, you just know its going to be a lazy half-assed port, so you dont even have to concider buying it.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 16:40 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | mike- wrote: | | who cares? maybe that'll give them more time to give pc gamers a version that isn't total shit, as most of ubi's pc games lately |
lol you must not have been following UBI very well. Their one of the worst PC developers now next to EA. Their ports are sloppy unoptimized shit, and if it's silent hill, buggy as hell, and ot make matters worse, it's being done by montreal...last game they did right was chaos theory. So as I expect, this game will suck on PC, as all ubi games do
Assassin's Creed
Batman Vengeance
Disney's Tarzan Untamed
Far Cry 2
Lost: The Videogame
Open Season
Peter Jackson's King Kong
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Surf's Up
TMNT
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory -- Limited Collector's Edition
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction |
did you read my post? most of ubi's pc games have been shit lately, key word LATELY
rvs didn't suck, splinter cell + chaos theory didn't suck, all prince of persia games didn't suck,and king kong didn't suck
most of the games LATELY, LATELY suck, silent hunter 4, double agent, graw2 etc etc
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 16:50 Post subject: |
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RVS was a piss poor port and did suck.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 17:15 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | | RVS was a piss poor port and did suck. |
Only on PC.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 17:15 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | | RVS was a piss poor port and did suck. |
uhh.. i'm talking about raven shield
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Sep 2007 17:18 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Only on PC. |
As implied by my wording, naturally.
| mike- wrote: | | uhh.. i'm talking about raven shield |
Ooops, I was thinking about Vegas for "some" reason.  |
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Sep 2007 19:37 Post subject: |
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I just read on this forum that teh demo is out! lol
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