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poullou




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 13:21    Post subject:
Yeah, you have to be cautious these days where you spend your money. I actually bought bioshock for more that I payed for the orange box, but because I was hooked with something else I never played more than 1.5 hours total. So, yes you have to be very sure on what you buy these days..


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 13:50    Post subject:
Bioshock was one game that burnt me, most of the times I can be pretty sure what's worth buying and what's not just by reading up on it and perhaps playing the demo - but the amount of marketing and hype that was present in Bioshock's opening few weeks made it too difficult.

The thing with the orange box was the value for money, TF2 and EP2 - I consider that a sweet deal for me and they throw in Portal and two games I already own but can now give away for free. TF2 is a lot of fun, it's a refreshing game to play actually.

Buying games is normal, and this forum isn't a haven for people who don't buy games - read around and I think you'll find most of the regulars here are actually people who buy games. The people who don't are those with low post counts who just come on now and then to find out how to beat protections.

Back on topic some interesting links from RPS;

Interview with the TF2 developers - Part One
Interview with the TF2 developers - Part Two
Amusing and informative breakdown of the classes in TF2


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Banelord




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 13:51    Post subject:
i bought orange box...

TF2 is pretty simple minded. ETF was much better... in fact they are identical games, only difference is ETF had more guns, and a shitload more maps, and was free, and TF2 has better graphics but less weapons and maps (at least atm). and well, its probably impossible to get a ETF anymore or find a server, so TF2 has servers (20 players) that are populated.

i agree about Bioshock... Orange Box has value, Bioshock does not. Bioshock has already dropped $10 in Amazon and will probably be $20 in 2 months.

and about people paying for games... there are a handful here, and sometimes one of them will show up with the jackass opine of "buy it you loser" when they want to drive a discussion off topic. i wish someone would gouge out their eyeballs!!! lol.

and this coming from someone who does buy games.

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Ashmolly




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 13:56    Post subject:
I can't say that i didnt see this coming. For me and my wife we share most single player games, but when it comes to multiplayer, we buy 2 of everything. We bought 2 Hellgate: London, 2 Orange Box, etc. Honestly, you gotta look out for the games that you can replay. I knew Bioshock wasnt going to have any super replay value when I read that there were only 2 endings.


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CrossWire




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 15:47    Post subject:
We told you all not to buy Bioshock, but would you listen? Noooooo, you wouldn't would you, thought you knew it all didn't you? Smile


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suicid4l




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 15:58    Post subject:
I remember when the original Team Fortress came out as a mod for quakeworld, was awesome. Reckon it's influenced the genre a great deal. Amazing for a mod really..

Hoping they don't over-complicate this or add toooo much stuff Smile
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poullou




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 16:09    Post subject:
suicid4l wrote:
I remember when the original Team Fortress came out as a mod for quakeworld, was awesome. Reckon it's influenced the genre a great deal. Amazing for a mod really..

Hoping they don't over-complicate this or add toooo much stuff Smile


To the contrary. They simplified things with the artistic look(character recognition) and made things simpler for everyone. It's not the hardcore gaming but it's the hardcore fun. Very Happy


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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 18:12    Post subject:
dammit after update to protocol 10 i can't play it anymore. The no-steam version hasn't been updated Sad If anyone know's the creator of the TF2 no-steam website, maybe he can tell him to hurry up with the update Very Happy
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Naish




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 18:50    Post subject:
Go buy it...geez, 45$ for 5 games.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 18:53    Post subject:
Bart1983 wrote:
The no-steam version hasn't been updated Sad

Wrong.


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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 18:53    Post subject:
Naish wrote:
Go buy it...geez, 45$ for 5 games.


Yeah buy a game that hasn't been released Laughing
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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 18:55    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
Bart1983 wrote:
The no-steam version hasn't been updated Sad

Wrong.


Oh yeah i was so wrong Very Happy


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Naish




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 19:01    Post subject:
Bart1983 wrote:
Naish wrote:
Go buy it...geez, 45$ for 5 games.


Yeah buy a game that hasn't been released Laughing


Not old enough for a credit card? Go pre-order it in a store. Gamestop gives you the TF2 beta. I think amazon does as well. tf2 on its own is worth it.
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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 19:12    Post subject:
Naish wrote:
Bart1983 wrote:
Naish wrote:
Go buy it...geez, 45$ for 5 games.


Yeah buy a game that hasn't been released Laughing


Not old enough for a credit card? Go pre-order it in a store. Gamestop gives you the TF2 beta. I think amazon does as well. tf2 on its own is worth it.


Credit card Confused What's that Confused Ii use monopoly money to pay for my games. TF2 is indeed great and i'm realy thinking of buying this one.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 19:25    Post subject:
lol @monopoly money


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Aephir




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 23:33    Post subject:
hrm, TF2 was just removed from my game's in steam. this happend for anyone else? did beta end?
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 23:36    Post subject:
maybe it's updating, there has been a number of updates of late - but no it's still in my steam list.


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Aephir




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 20:18    Post subject:
anyone got any good tweak tips? for some bloody reason i got some small "chops" in the game, even if i got the game on max and 1280x1024 or evrything on low and 800x600. i already changed the rates. the fps arnt bad for me, i got around 50-100, but from time to time it drop down to 0. witch is very very annoying. so any tweak guides or tips are very appriciated.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 20:58    Post subject:
net_graph 3
in console. Check if you get too much loss(more than 5)


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Aephir




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 21:02    Post subject:
poullou wrote:
net_graph 3
in console. Check if you get too much loss(more than 5)



well if i do? how do i solve it? i've changed my rates and the cl_cmdupdate and what ever, but problem still remain, im on a 100mbit connection. and the server i play on is 100mbit same company that delivers.
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poullou




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 21:07    Post subject:
Is it a specific server problem or happens everywhere? I just hope you are not one of the unlucky guys. I don't know how connection affects, but my 1.5MB with 120-130 ping to UK is perfectly fine. Smile

If you have loss high enough, change rate to 25000 or 30000, checking each time the effect.


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Aephir




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 03:25    Post subject:
poullou wrote:
Is it a specific server problem or happens everywhere? I just hope you are not one of the unlucky guys. I don't know how connection affects, but my 1.5MB with 120-130 ping to UK is perfectly fine. Smile

If you have loss high enough, change rate to 25000 or 30000, checking each time the effect.


problem is that witch ever server i choise (im in a ping range towars UK with 50) even if its in germany or poland or italy etc. ping mathers on their side. since my connection is great most of the time.

still doesnt mather if the server is located next door. or in germany, i still get the same problem, with the small "chops" i checked my net graph. in standar settings i hade around 50 choke (unplayble if you try) well i tried tuning cl_cmdrate cl_updaterate and rate. all i could get it is down to 10. witch makes a huge diffrent for me, but still i want it down to atleast 4, so any help you can give is very appriciated

(sorry about bad english im very drunk atm =)
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shadak




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 12:25    Post subject:
Guys whats the TAX when i buy it over steam please ? Smile Just want to calculate if its the same like buying it in a store... Or is the TAX different for each EU country ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 12:31    Post subject:
Looking at the look and play of TF2 doesn't it scream at you the life span of about a week?


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 12:46    Post subject:
CrossWire wrote:
Looking at the look and play of TF2 doesn't it scream at you the life span of about a week?


The stats really help also it takes time to find the proper tactics...


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streetunder




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 14:54    Post subject:
can someone tell me why the hell steam is slow as a turtle? im downloading TF2 at 12kb!!!!
WTF!?
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TTorpedo




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 15:44    Post subject:
Can i buy it anywhere out of the orange?
Is it planned to be released as a stand alone, same time as the orange box release?

Played Half-life 2, good game - end. Don´t care about the episodes.
CoD 4 MP / and Crysis SP will probably take me from November on, But October seems to be the Team Fortress 2 Game of the month
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Fluppy




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 16:21    Post subject:
gabe needs more money to eat so buy orange!
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poullou




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 16:21    Post subject:
@shadak, I think it's about $7 for UK and maybe a bit less for the rest EU countries. Mine was ~$51.50 from $45.

@TTorpedo, I think the only release you will see in stores is the orange box for all three platforms. You will be able to buy it as a stand alone from steam but the question is when.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007 22:00    Post subject:
Is cs.rin.ru offline ?? I doesn't work for me like 1 day... Sad
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