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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 20:46    Post subject:
I also use a crack for my bought games, it's handy. I was just pointing out what happened last year, it'll probably happen again. It was funny seeing people complain on the official forums because of 'bugs' caused by the crack. Using the clone is a hassle, I have to disable the drives, but untill the crack's tested I won't touch it.
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KGen




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 20:58    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
The cloned version has no problems, but seems the FLT release has an obvious problem if you're to believed (sorry, but 2 posts Smile) I've been told by a good friend that Hatreds release works just fine (none of this silly qualifying nonsense)


Well, if your friend is correct, I find it quite funny that after FLT accused Hatred of lousy job they screwed up themselves. Well, at least we have one seemingly working crack right now, so those scene wars ultimately did good.
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mad_weegie




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 21:02    Post subject:
We really need to do a holiday mode test on this...

1 using hatred the other on FLT

and then we can see what crack is ok.


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 21:19    Post subject:
mad_weegie wrote:
We really need to do a holiday mode test on this...

1 using hatred the other on FLT

and then we can see what crack is ok.

The person who brought this to the attention of SI on their forums wasn't using a cracked version of the game - he was a using a legal version and playing a save game from the demo (they confirmed this causes the problem 'also') So we don't know whether the problem really exists or whether it's just scare tactics by sports interactive (or a bit of both because it will eventually be fixed).

I have a friend who shown me the Hatred release - it worked fine with no problems with qualification. I don't have or know anyone who has the FLT crack so that's over to you guys - do we trust someone with just two posts for example (again, no offense).

Even though the qualification bug doesn't exist on the hatred release it doesn't mean other triggers are fixed (if they indeed exist Very Happy) so it's a bit of a guessing game at this point.


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BigBasher
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 21:45    Post subject:
well i went in holiday mode until 17 december 2008 like in that screenshot and the table was empty! there were no tables at all, so i dont know! I got sacked mid way so maybe it didnt bother working out internationals lol.. using HATRED btw


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 22:01    Post subject:
What version were you using.


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 22:01    Post subject:
There's a major bug, closing down doesn't work. No matter how high you set it, players will just lay back which will results in opposing strikers walking freely. I thought I was going crazy, constantly tweaking the tactics and wondering how I could concede so many goals, I found out it's a bug acknowledged by SI games. They had toned it down because defenders were rushing to any player in sight, but they toned it down too much. Guess I'll wait for the patch.
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 22:10    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
There's a major bug, closing down doesn't work. No matter how high you set it, players will just lay back which will results in opposing strikers walking freely. I thought I was going crazy, constantly tweaking the tactics and wondering how I could concede so many goals, I found out it's a bug acknowledged by SI games. They had toned it down because defenders were rushing to any player in sight, but they toned it down too much. Guess I'll wait for the patch.

Yeah I mentioned this earlier Smile

It's not a game breaker though.


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 22:15    Post subject:
How do you circumvent it? My defenders just watch untill the last moment and when they want to take action it's usually too late. I'm managing a medium quality team though, no Chelsea or something like that.
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 23:04    Post subject:
I never really read up on it but as I understood it was the more you placed the slider to closing down - the less closing down they would do. I think its something that affects the AI as well so it's really a level playing field. I use 'rarely' - but I always have. Only my defensive midfielder is ever set high and at the moment I just have him on mixed.

I'm not really finding it any more difficult, just as you say really weird and annoying that they don't close down enough. I'm still waiting for the patch though so I'm not too interested - still getting to grips with the confusingly changed interface (why do we need two separate confidence screens?)


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danielao




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007 23:14    Post subject:
So absolutely confirmed that the qualifying bug will show up in the FLT version?
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 00:03    Post subject:
danielao wrote:
So absolutely confirmed that the qualifying bug will show up in the FLT version?


The only thing that is absolutely confirmed is that it does not show on Hatred's version. Just checked it myself.

As for the closing down bug, I've read somewhere in the SI forum that if you tight mark + move the slider on closing down just a little bit to the right (ie, still mixed but not centered) then the defenders will act more or less reasonably. Sounds like bs, but maybe it does work.
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LFMartins




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 00:57    Post subject:
Well,two people say the Hatred version works fine,now you say it doesn´t...
Guess i´ll have to try it myself.
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KGen




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 10:19    Post subject:
LFMartins wrote:
Well,two people say the Hatred version works fine,now you say it doesn´t...
Guess i´ll have to try it myself.


You were refering to my post? Because I said it (i.e. the bug), does not show on Hatred's release.
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Magikdekay




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 11:41    Post subject:
Hatred release works just fine Wink
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LFMartins




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 18:05    Post subject:
Sorry KGen,i misread your post.
I can also confirm Hatred works great.
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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 18:23    Post subject:
clonecd version also still works, and comes in handy when new updates are out Smile


empty...
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Shevchenko




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 19:19    Post subject:
can anyone confirm that the clone works mounted with DT 4.10 Pro without unplugging optical devices and all that jazz?


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Neo_McKane




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 19:23    Post subject:
It works with DT4.09HE + YASU on XP SP2, but not on Vista


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ojn




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 21:22    Post subject:
Also works fine with DT Pro 4.10 and YASU without disabling CD devices. Running on XP SP2.
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dazzazzad
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 23:07    Post subject:
Doesn't work here on XP SP2, DT 4.10 and YASU. Have tried disabling physical drive in device manager but that also doesn't do the trick.
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danielao




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 23:13    Post subject:
Sad

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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007 23:19    Post subject:
Seriously - check the official bug list. We're waiting for the patch to enjoy the game anyway.


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007 00:19    Post subject:
I think both releases (HATRED's & FLT's) should be nuked because the game is NOT cracked properly. The game is full of triggers etc.


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007 00:35    Post subject:
Well, the Hatred release might have unfixed triggers (we can't know for sure) but what we do know is that it doesn't have the European qualification problem. Anyone using cracks is going to need a new one for the patch so it's a moot point right now.


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KaiserSoze666




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007 00:52    Post subject:
Going to run a holiday game with the hatred crack tonight and then another with the original store bought one tomorrow, see if there are any major differences. Haven't seen any bugs so far using the cracked version.
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silengate




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007 01:04    Post subject:
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blackhand




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007 01:24    Post subject:
The clone doesn't work for me with DT 4.10 and Yasu with drives disabled, either. And clones always work for me. Pretty annoying since there's no conclusive answers on the state of the cracks.
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007 01:37    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
Well, the Hatred release might have unfixed triggers (we can't know for sure) but what we do know is that it doesn't have the European qualification problem. Anyone using cracks is going to need a new one for the patch so it's a moot point right now.


I have used HATRED's crack for a few days and it contains Euro 2008 bug.

ps. Maybe it is not a trigger, have a look: http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a2jeurokf8.jpg
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damador.




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007 07:46    Post subject:
blackhand wrote:
The clone doesn't work for me with DT 4.10 and Yasu with drives disabled, either. And clones always work for me. Pretty annoying since there's no conclusive answers on the state of the cracks.


you should have only one virtual drive in DT
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