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Mutantius
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| Quote: | | You think not propaganda? Well, it seems that it did its work... |
What?
| Quote: | | As for storyline - as i told i saw interview of a fat four-eyes guy from the developers office and he retold the story in general. Russian terrorists want to revive USSR (a very good idea!) and distract Us's (why the hell is US's? world's cops?) from Russia and make some coup-detat or smth in the middle east. |
The US is rather interested to abolish any plans of interfering with Oil connections and a establishments of a new USSR state, so while the coup in the middle east takes it place the US have to act, while Zakhaev (the russian nationalist) can work in peace to regain the pride of Russia.
So far it seems quite credible.
| Quote: | | So first the HERO work in the middle east, then there is time to help Russian Army to fight with terorists (). I really dont like such plot cause i am Russian, yes. But on the whole all such stories are made for propaganda purposes either paid or not. Either made on purpose or just occasionally. Its is just strange that they did change the way of story-telling in this game. |
The hero is different characters according to wiki you get to play (just like the other games) different kinds of characters ranging from SAS to USMC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_duty_4#Plot
Nothing in the story telling as change whatsoever only this time its fiction instead of non-fiction.
| Quote: | | What i believe is that America made a really strong world-used culture of holliwood, music, games...They have the best POP-culture products. Its a great success! I respect it, no doubt. But its also a great tool in politics hands. Dont be naive. |
The only tool currently is America's Army which is a game made directly from the bowels of the american administration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Army#Controversy start your pointless propaganda accusations agaisnt that instead.
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Aurochs
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2007 17:04 Post subject: |
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Quite frankly its a matter of taste... I prefer modern warfare to be set in a realistic fashion. If you want your COD experience based on completely non-fiction then by all means.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2007 17:13 Post subject: |
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| Aurochs wrote: | 2 Mutantius - well, i strongly disagree. It is real that America not intrested that terrorists make a new USSR-country in Russia. (Thou think half of the population want USSR back). BUT i also strongly believe there is no way of poliyically polite attitude to Russia with such stupid plot. I cant imagine Russian special forces would ask Americans to help....Lets imagine American democrats government ask russia to help with terrorists which want to install an empire...  Also do you really know that "Zakhaev" is not a Russian name....its a Caucasean muslem name (some muslem peoples in Russia took Russian endings). So on the hole it is like as if american troops help Russia to fight in with terrorists in Chechnya or smth...well its stupid just because its the same story like in lots of other shooters...its trite.
If they would invent some future non-existent countries - it would be better.
Can You at least agree that if there would be some separate recent history-based missions (like in cod1,2 but from 90-ies) - it would be at least not worse than the Zakhaev story? Can You agree that new way of story-telling is not better? |
It's actually a pretty offensive idea to set a game in a modern, traumatic event like a war. That's why most games made by major developers are never set in a modern war-zone, and even wars like Vietnam and Korea get much less play, probably due to the fact that plenty of veterans are still around from those wars.
Also, I think I prefer video games that show a less-than-bleak view of the world than you are suggesting. I'd like to hope that American/Russian relations weren't SO bad that even the IDEA of co-operation would be considered damaging to your overzealous nationalistic pride.
And believe me, I know about overzealous nationalism... I live in America, the capital of nationalism (behind England).
Don't get so worked up about the storyline, and I seriously doubt that this game is pro-government propaganda. A -lot- of entertainers in America are anti-nationalist.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2007 17:17 Post subject: |
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Hero should be Croatian. Thats the real army , Croatian army!
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HAHAHAHAHHAAH....Wicked!!!
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putin is easily the most scary and at the same time badass state leader in the world atm
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2007 20:14 Post subject: ***** |
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Nov 2007 18:29 Post subject: |
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Russia Rocks!! hope someday can travel there and see it for myself
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| xBXSx wrote: | | evil_commie wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: |
Yeah, Id like to see some army games where you dont play as an american
Like how about a merc from country x |
i would like a call of duty like game where you play as a german wermacht soldier for once (aka the normal army not SS or other nazi scum) |
The SS or the other "nazi scums" would be more fun with better battles.
Its kinda sad that u can play as the worlds worst politically soldier(commie) but not as an german under WW2. |
a communist is worse then a nazi ?
communists strive to create a society where everyone gets an equal share of the wealth.
nazi's want to kill/enslave everyone that is not white
thats a very disturbing point of view to prefer the nazi's over the communists
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). I really dont like such plot cause i am Russian, yes. But on the whole all such stories are made for propaganda purposes either paid or not. Either made on purpose or just occasionally. Its is just strange that they did change the way of story-telling in this game.
