Zeitgeist the movie
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Nov 2007 09:45    Post subject: Zeitgeist the movie
Has anyone watched this documentary? It's about conspiracy. It's nicely made with many interesting stuff (it's pretty interesting what they are saying about Christianity, 9/11 and banking)

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

a review http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/06/jay-kinney-reviews-z.html


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Nov 2007 16:51    Post subject:
I prefer watching legitimate documentaries.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Nov 2007 17:31    Post subject:
well from what ive read, didnt these guys post all the information sources they used so people can verify if it was a balanced documentary, and one filled with relivant truthful facts?

which pretty much is the opposite for 80% of your 'legitimate documentaries'...


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Nov 2007 18:48    Post subject:
just googling can find several sources that find inaccuracies in the movie ...

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=98970
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=85264&highlight=Zeitgeist
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2709114&postcount=2

conspiracy theory movies like this one do nothing but make people who actually seek the truth look like insane fucking retards.


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Nov 2007 05:31    Post subject:
You didn't even watch it, how can you know that the so called conspiracy theorie docu's are fake.
If you are open minded you should watch both the normal docu's and the ones about conspiracy's and then come up with your own conclusions about it.
On google you can find anything you want, there are probably also quite some sites (forums) that are pro zeitgeist.
And have to say that there are some pretty interesting things in this one although a bit rushed at points.
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Nov 2007 08:19    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
just googling can find several sources that find inaccuracies in the movie ...

You can always find some people denying stuff by googling, but it doesn't mean it's true. They haven't researched material and made their own documentary, they are just naysayers.


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Nov 2007 13:20    Post subject:
fine, you wackos enjoy your conspiracy theories Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Nov 2007 13:27    Post subject:
I say like it like Dean: Blah, blah, blah blah blah blah Razz

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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Nov 2007 13:47    Post subject:
THE JOOOOS DID 9/11 !!!!!11!!!ONE!!ONE!!11!!!

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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Nov 2007 14:57    Post subject:
bullshit conspiracy.. that people actually believe this crap?
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Nov 2007 09:58    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
fine, you wackos enjoy your conspiracy theories Wink


Watch the film , make your mind up then open your gob!
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007 18:24    Post subject:
Just watched the full 2hours...

It's something many people ( With IQ 100 and above ) thought about. Like who is controlling the world and why. Just look at those "few" men in the USA that have all the money and power in the world but still want more. I have wondered that many times, why do people seek more and more power but I think it's just in human nature. The fact that the USA gov keeps it's people dumb really shocked me....

I saw in this movie allot of things I did not knew and now it gives me more to think about.

I rate 9/10

PS. For those who say FAKE!!! WOWOW FAKEEEE WTFBBQ!!!111

Yes you can believe it's fake, but it's nice to open your mind and just to think about more things that are far from your real life(or mybe not).


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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007 18:57    Post subject:
TheGame110011001 wrote:
Just watched the full 2hours...

It's something many people ( With IQ 100 and above ) thought about. Like who is controlling the world and why. Just look at those "few" men in the USA that have all the money and power in the world but still want more. I have wondered that many times, why do people seek more and more power but I think it's just in human nature. The fact that the USA gov keeps it's people dumb really shocked me....

I saw in this movie allot of things I did not knew and now it gives me more to think about.

I rate 9/10

PS. For those who say FAKE!!! WOWOW FAKEEEE WTFBBQ!!!111

Yes you can believe it's fake, but it's nice to open your mind and just to think about more things that are far from your real life(or mybe not).


you gotta take things like this with a grain of salt. there may be elements of truth to it, but also shit has been exaggerated and stretched to make it more provocative to the viewer


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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007 19:00    Post subject:
What was youre point with IQ 100? You mean they are uber smart or what? Iq 100 is average.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007 20:00    Post subject:
TheGame110011001 wrote:
Just watched the full 2hours...

It's something many people ( With IQ 100 and above ) thought about. Like who is controlling the world and why. Just look at those "few" men in the USA that have all the money and power in the world but still want more. I have wondered that many times, why do people seek more and more power but I think it's just in human nature. The fact that the USA gov keeps it's people dumb really shocked me....

I saw in this movie allot of things I did not knew and now it gives me more to think about.

I rate 9/10

PS. For those who say FAKE!!! WOWOW FAKEEEE WTFBBQ!!!111

Yes you can believe it's fake, but it's nice to open your mind and just to think about more things that are far from your real life(or mybe not).


you're fucking ridiculous


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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007 23:45    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
Iq 100 is average.
Not in Croatia..
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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Dec 2007 01:36    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Nakitu wrote:
Iq 100 is average.
Not in Croatia..


Good thing I grew up in The Netherlands Wink

And yes some parts are really funny, but take it like nice written/told fiction.

I just like those kind of movies because you don't see them often and they let you think about stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Dec 2007 02:50    Post subject:
Man you guys are blind. Because this kind of movies are so popular you overlook real conspiraciies like complete monopol over diamond sale. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6186684678299366197&q=diamond+empire&hl=en
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008 20:00    Post subject:
I know this is an old thread and all that. Well sorry that I am LATE! Smile

A friend of mine recommended me to see Zeitgeist last week. This coincided with a colleague at work suddenly getting in to the 9/11 conspiracy etc. One thing led to another and now I am "investigating" the whole dam thing...again . Again cause I was in to this maybe 4-5 years ago.

Now to my request. What vids/sites are the best to watch/visit as to regards to this whole 9/11 stuff.

Cheers!.


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008 23:58    Post subject:
This one is too phony.

Search for documentary about bill cooper on youtube, its interesting.

These type of docus bend the truth, watch a real one like Esoteric Agenda.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Aug 2008 21:45    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
Now to my request. What vids/sites are the best to watch/visit as to regards to this whole 9/11 stuff.

Cheers!.


Hey Cox, stop watching that crap Wink keep the present day at mind ... trying to find truth in something so fucked up that happened 7 years ago is pointless. no matter who caused 9/11 (even though it was terrorists in case you were thinking different Wink), these fucked up wars are more important.

No End in Sight
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0912593/

Taxi to the Dark Side
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0854678/

Standard Operating Procedure (2008)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0896866/

^^ Errol Morris is awesome so you should also check out his other stuff:

The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara (2003)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/

The Thin Blue Line (1988)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096257/

Fuck all this conspiracy theory google video crap. A well argued, well referenced and more balanced documentary is worth a million times more than a Zietgeist.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 03:04    Post subject:
people love conspiracy shit though nouse. they're fun to watch and everyone would rather blame the government for everything rather than some people... it's easier that way. Thinking you know the truth is lot better than, not. let it be. either way no one will ever know what happened then and when, so fuck it. The truth is out there, and if you keep believing the conspiracy theories you'll just sleep a lil better. Smile 'Sides they are indeed entertaining.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 13:51    Post subject:
my 0.02$ to that case: if you think the world is spinning the way you see in TV News U R f*ckin naive!!!!!!!! Very Happy


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docertabum wrote:
my 0.02$ to that case: if you think the world is spinning the way you see in TV News U R f*ckin naive!!!!!!!! Very Happy


I agree lots of people on nforce seem to do that, speaking like they know whats actually going on Laughing
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I guess people who dismiss 9/11 conspiracy theories never heard of Operation Northwoods.

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Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false flag conspiracy plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".

This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on foreign governments.

The plan states, "The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere." Operation Northwoods was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and signed by then-Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of Defense.

Several other proposals were listed, including the real or simulated actions against various U.S military and civilian targets. Operation Northwoods was part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. It was never officially accepted or executed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Sound familiar?
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 16:20    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 17:26    Post subject:
K. I guess I watch those documentaries for the fun of it. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 20:27    Post subject:
I think there is "something" to all this stuff about 9/11. To much ppl saw other things compared to the official version.

I just love the part in Zeitgeist when they fade in the Reichstag burning with the text of the new law and stuff...and Bush name gets crossed out and is replaced by Hitler's...it at least has a "WOW" effect to it .


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Even if the government orchestrated 9/11, nothing will ever be proven so it's completely pointless. Especially considering the very real death and destruction going on today.


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