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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 21:04    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
tihkal wrote:
Xtreme - the benches i've seen with the 8800GT have it doing about 10 frames per second better then my card. Which is just enough to make the game playable. Ah well, I will finish it but I was just saying it lags probably once every 30 seconds for me.

:(


Wtf? At best it can do 5 FPS more but it has much lower lowest FPS.




GT totally owns GTS640
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Nakitu




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 21:17    Post subject:
We are talking about dx 9 not dx 10 and this test is total bull since i have gtx and i dont have 35 FPS in DX 10 with everything on highest.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 21:41    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
We are talking about dx 9 not dx 10 and this test is total bull since i have gtx and i dont have 35 FPS in DX 10 with everything on highest.


the test is not "total bull"... it's high settings not max...

but sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about DX9 max settings.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:07    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
Nakitu wrote:
We are talking about dx 9 not dx 10 and this test is total bull since i have gtx and i dont have 35 FPS in DX 10 with everything on highest.


the test is not "total bull"... it's high settings not max...

but sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about DX9 max settings.


Thanks Surray, I wouldn't waste the strokes though.. *cough* flagrant fanboyism *cough*




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Nakitu




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:14    Post subject:
Ok dude check this pic then. GTX everything at high no aa dx 9



Still think that that test isnt bull?
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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:20    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
Ok dude check this pic then. GTX everything at high no aa dx 9



Still think that that test isnt bull?


I really don't understand how you can claim it's bull, just because you don't get that high of fps. They may have just done the benchmarking in the jungle rather then the frozen area. As we all know the frozen/snowy areas are more FPS intensive. Also, the graphics card isn't the only part of a computer that gets you FPS. At any rate, I am done with this. Can't a person even say the game stutters and looks like shit on LOW SETTINGS without being harassed by someone? Apparently not... If you want to continue send me a pm, actually don't bother cause i could care less.. Bye.


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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:24    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
Ok dude check this pic then. GTX everything at high no aa dx 9



Still think that that test isnt bull?


umm. your picture doesn't prove anything.
by that logic, I could go into a corner and look at the floor and then say I get 70 fps with my 7900 gtx with everything on max.

who knows what benchmark they used? obviously FPS vary depending on the level and path used to bench as well as other hardware, not just the GPU.
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Nakitu




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:37    Post subject:
I didnt stand in corner did i? I was in open space. Y it depends on what HW you got in but since i have faster cpu then they have and 4 gb of ram and same board then y i can call it bull.

@tihkal Wtf you talking about? Who is harassing you? I stoped talking with you page before. I was talking with Surray. Learn to read ktnxbye
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PIMPMPO




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:40    Post subject:
wtf? i blast the 2 canon with the tac gun

i managed to open the hatch

what shoud i do next??


tac gun is not locking on anything
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Nakitu




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:45    Post subject:
You aim TAC at hole you made by destroying hatch. Then you nuke it and then its game over.
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PIMPMPO




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:50    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
You aim TAC at hole you made by destroying hatch. Then you nuke it and then its game over.



tac gun is not locking on the hole

i can't fire
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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 22:53    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
I didnt stand in corner did i? I was in open space. Y it depends on what HW you got in but since i have faster cpu then they have and 4 gb of ram and same board then y i can call it bull.


you made a screenshot of the ice world, the benchmark I posted was from the first island, the demo actually, so it's obviously a tottally different situation.

on top of that those FPS are average throughout a benchmark, so there will most likely be spots in that benchmark where they had 15 fps, just like there were spots where they had 50 fps. Comparing the FPS of a single screenshots to an average of a benchmark of a totally different level is just absolutely useless and proves nothing.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to piss you off or anything, but seriously, posting that screenshot made no sense. And why in hell would a reputable hardware website test a graphics card and post benchmarks that they made up? that's just ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 23:06    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
Nakitu wrote:
I didnt stand in corner did i? I was in open space. Y it depends on what HW you got in but since i have faster cpu then they have and 4 gb of ram and same board then y i can call it bull.


you made a screenshot of the ice world, the benchmark I posted was from the first island, the demo actually, so it's obviously a tottally different situation.

on top of that those FPS are average throughout a benchmark, so there will most likely be spots in that benchmark where they had 15 fps, just like there were spots where they had 50 fps. Comparing the FPS of a single screenshots to an average of a benchmark of a totally different level is just absolutely useless and proves nothing.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to piss you off or anything, but seriously, posting that screenshot made no sense. And why in hell would a reputable hardware website test a graphics card and post benchmarks that they made up? that's just ridiculous.


Why would you think i would get pissed? Im not belive me. I like to debate people. That pic was to show how much fps i have at that spot. In all game average i have is 30 fps but mostly its around 25 or lower depends whats going on.

@PIMPMPO you must aim TAC at hole. It will lock on.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 23:36    Post subject:
this game is awesome. Only needs more gore


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Nov 2007 23:57    Post subject:
You guys understand that for the most part all the benchmarks for this game have been done via the tools in the install folder? Those are suppose to demonstrate real world performance, I don't think any site has done a performance review using fraps etc.
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clragon




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 00:10    Post subject:
skidrow wrote:
this game is awesome. Only needs more gore


I thought it needed a cooler silent take down from behind... =/

it would have been so predator like Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 00:42    Post subject:
PIMPMPO wrote:
wtf? i blast the 2 canon with the tac gun

i managed to open the hatch

what shoud i do next??


tac gun is not locking on anything


Press restart button to restart the hole level , let it play for a moment then load the previous save from the moment that big ship emerges , worked here

this game is buggy as hell , people get stuck in mid air , invisible barriers , and problems with triggering the scripts - yup EA influencing Crytek
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 13:28    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
Lutzifer wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
So why is my opinion not important then? Are the only important opinions from those who think the game is great?

At djaoni.


i think it s the way you put your arguments. Sure, you re entitled to your opinion, but please refrain from using "factoids" like the teck-demo argument to make your opinion look like it s a proven fact. Nobody is arguing that you have to like the game. But keep the vitriol away for those that actually did. That s all i m asking for.


well lol, I didn't realize the 'tech demo' comment would rile people up so much ... I guess somewhere in this 130 pages is another argument about this? Because tbh this thread is way to big to follow and/or be useful Wink


tbh, i havent seen any. Only "tech-demo" comments and "this game sucks". Nobody pointed a finger on why it actually sucks for them. Ok, now that i think about it, some said that the "a.i. totally sucks", but that s not much more detail.

So, if somebody that really hates the came could explain what is so damn sucky about it, i could sleep comfortably tonight Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 13:43    Post subject:
the game sucked because there were no hookers that i could score for the price of a silver ring, and get a neat bonus conquest card afterwards.







*walks off muttering "i dunno, maybe ive just played too much witcher..."*


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 14:28    Post subject:
hahahahahaha

thanx chiv, you saved the day Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 18:09    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:


So, if somebody that really hates the came could explain what is so damn sucky about it, i could sleep comfortably tonight Very Happy


When a game is crap, it's easy to distinguish what makes it so, the crap qualities shine through. But when a game is spectacularly average, it's more difficult to identify what exactly makes it average.

So, like most people have said. The game isn't crap or 'sucky', most people don't hate it; beyond the usual crybabies who had their hyped up dreams smashed. The objective gamer can distinguish graphics from gameplay, and without it's graphics this game offers very little we haven't seen before in terms of gameplay.

So, nothing makes it crap. Nothing makes it exceptional either apart from the graphics, and that just isn't enough. In my opinion it's about a 70-75% game, which if people weren't expecting a 90%+ game would not have caused so many negative comments.


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Surray




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 18:35    Post subject:
at least crysis has large open maps where you have actual freedom in deciding how to approach objectives (not like airborne for example where you really only had very little freedom)

that alone is worth a lot for me and makes it pretty exceptional. there's not many FPS games where you can do that.


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PIMPMPO




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Nov 2007 22:51    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
PIMPMPO wrote:
wtf? i blast the 2 canon with the tac gun

i managed to open the hatch

what shoud i do next??


tac gun is not locking on anything


Press restart button to restart the hole level , let it play for a moment then load the previous save from the moment that big ship emerges , worked here

this game is buggy as hell , people get stuck in mid air , invisible barriers , and problems with triggering the scripts - yup EA influencing Crytek



what a fucking bug

i managed to finish it after i don't know how many restarts and reload of the game

great game but a fucking bug at the end
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Nov 2007 03:12    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Nov 2007 04:15    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
Nakitu wrote:
tihkal wrote:
Xtreme - the benches i've seen with the 8800GT have it doing about 10 frames per second better then my card. Which is just enough to make the game playable. Ah well, I will finish it but I was just saying it lags probably once every 30 seconds for me.

Sad


Wtf? At best it can do 5 FPS more but it has much lower lowest FPS.




GT totally owns GTS640



I feel bad for the people that just bought a GTS.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Nov 2007 04:18    Post subject:
get your gts's on the bay before it's too late they are still selling quite well.sold mine bfg 8800gt arrives thursday.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Nov 2007 10:39    Post subject:
chaingang23 wrote:
I feel bad for the people that just bought a GTS.


yeah.. to be honest, it's quite unfair. thanks to nvidia naming their new card GT, people expected it to be not as fast as the GTS obviously.

A friend of mine wanted to upgrade his PC about 1.5 months ago and asked me to put together a system. His budget was around 800€ so a GeForce 8800 GTS 320 was the best choice at that point. I knew the GT was coming and expected it to be good for the price (but not this good), and asked him to wait until the crysis demo was out so we would have some better benchmarks available to see what card would really be the best choice.

Unfortunately he was in a hurry so we decided to just get the 8800 GTS 320.
Man.. I feel really bad now... if we would have waited just a few more weeks we could have got a GT for almost 60€ less, and yeah, the performance is just so much better.


But oh well, at least he's not a badass computer freak or anything (thats my job) so he doesn't mind that much. The 8800 GTS is really good enough for everything but crysis.
Pretty much all other games run just fine on those cards. of course, they're faster on a GT still, but they run good enough.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Nov 2007 11:22    Post subject:
tihkal wrote:
Nakitu wrote:
Ok dude check this pic then. GTX everything at high no aa dx 9



Still think that that test isnt bull?


I really don't understand how you can claim it's bull, just because you don't get that high of fps. They may have just done the benchmarking in the jungle rather then the frozen area. As we all know the frozen/snowy areas are more FPS intensive.


Ergo they should have pressed the benchmarking on the lowest fps area. End of story about benchmarking and the weird logic you thinking with tihkal

Honestly I dont think the game would run smoother for me either. 7800GS, dual core 4800+ amd, 2gb ram. I could play around med quality in 800*600... well thanks rather not, I will buy GoW and UT3 these are running beautifully on my comp.

Dont understand why create an engine that looks great but delivers inefficiently (if you compare it with similarily good looking and brand new engines like unreal engine 3). This already took away my curiousity for this game really, just reading the bad experience you had with the game guys.

Ohh and this game on med quality settings looks AWFUL! IMHO...
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Nov 2007 12:23    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
thanks to nvidia naming their new card GT, people expected it to be not as fast as the GTS obviously.

People expected... Rolling Eyes

What people should do is read the internets before expecting anything. Have they read any previews or early reviews, they'd know GT was so so much better.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Nov 2007 13:15    Post subject:
Crysis only runs at two fps levels - it goes from:
You are actually moving in fucking reverse (negative frame rate) ----> 0.
If you manage to hit the 0 - consider yourself lucky.


Seriously, is the game fucking running an algorithm to find the cure for cancer in the fucking background without our knowledge? What the fuck.

I can change my settings from all HIGH 4xAA to all LOW 0xAA and makes FUCK ALL a difference in the FPS.


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