[XBOX] New round of live bans
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TheGame110011001
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2007 00:46    Post subject:
Replace Keyvault Unbans Xbox 360 *update*

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=630745


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2007 01:17    Post subject:
Maybe if you didn't require another unbanned 360's keyvault that might actually be a useful hack. If it gets banned again both consoles get banned so you might aswell just buy another 360 and use that.


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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2007 01:28    Post subject:
Played some more COD4 tonight, so far so good! the 4th Dec update is a worry though


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2007 02:32    Post subject:
time to buy a console from gamestation, find the key then get a refund hahhahaa
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2007 03:10    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
time to buy a console from gamestation, find the key then get a refund hahhahaa


You do realise what you have to do to get access to the keyvault?


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2007 04:21    Post subject:
get the keycard from the grandmaster gatekeeper?

nah im not really gonna bother, i realise it takes modding the console with infectus upon other things, unless someone makes a keygen that magically works, which isprobably impossible i wont bother Smile
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Nov 2007 04:30    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
get the keycard from the grandmaster gatekeeper?


LOL, I didn't expect that. Very Happy


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Nov 2007 02:57    Post subject:
played CoD4 just for 3 hours online, no problems.. (yet)


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DJ_ILLEGAL




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2007 01:23    Post subject:
what about people with modchips?
any news on that?
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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Dec 2007 15:37    Post subject:
Xbox-Scene wrote:
A followup regarding the xbox live bannings that occured a few weeks ago...

Commodore4eva has noticed a recent change in games with regards to the c/r timings. It appears to have started in games a few weeks before halo 3, that will give a slightly altered Security Sector file when ripped using a kreon drive. We have tried to replicate the error with a samsung drive in 0800 mode with no success.

This slightly altered data would be very easy to detect, and would enable microsoft to use as critera for bannings. We believe this is the result of the recent bannings.

We are still not sure if this was a intentional move by Microsoft's part, or a coincedental bug within kreon. As a side note, kreon will not give this altered data every time, but appears to happen randomly. Here is a list of a few games that appear to have the possibility of giving altered SS data when ripped with kreon:
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Call Of Duty 4
Spiderman friend or foe
Thrillville
Project Gotham Racing 4
NHL 08
Half Life 2 The Orange Box
Oblivion GOTY Edition

This is just a small list of findings so far. There will be a full list maintained as time goes on (likely found in the forum thread below).

Kreon, Redline99 and commodore4eva are all involved with this progress, so there will be a solution in the near future, whether its a kreon firmware, XBC, or firmware update to resolve the issue.

If you have recently been banned, and would like to confirm whether one of your backups has a bad kreon SS, please use xdvdmulleter or any other program to extract the SS, and run Kreon Checker (compliments of #Stealth360 on efnet) on the SS, it will tell you whether it is a good or bad kreon rip. We are trying to verify that everyone who was banned had a bad kreon SS. As we find out more, the xdvdmulleter database will be updated to fix any bad Security Sectors on specific games.


Scary amount of releases been verified in the forums , Wonder if the ban hammer will hit tommorrow , I know I'll be hit if this theory is true
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Gargamel198024




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Dec 2007 16:50    Post subject:
I know I will be hit Too!!! Along with about 15 other Boxes that I did for my friends! LOL.... They are gonna be pissed


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Dec 2007 17:25    Post subject:
Gargamel198024 wrote:
I know I will be hit Too!!! Along with about 15 other Boxes that I did for my friends! LOL.... They are gonna be pissed


Well they should have known the risks and been prepared for the consequences. It's not your fault.
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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 01:17    Post subject:
hmm on that list i have 6 games.
and only played : mass effect, nhl 08 and cod4 for the last 3 weeks.

banhammer for me 2 i think Smile


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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 01:39    Post subject:
now do i buy a new xbox360 if I get banned or just get COD4 for the PS3 to still play online (bout the only game worth playing online, everything else now seems meh!, COD4 has seriously raised the bar on multi)


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 01:47    Post subject:
dirtymurt wrote:
now do i buy a new xbox360 if I get banned or just get COD4 for the PS3 to still play online (bout the only game worth playing online, everything else now seems meh!, COD4 has seriously raised the bar on multi)


Well if you already have a PS3 you might aswell get it for that.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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timechange01
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 07:43    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
Appelsap wrote:
Is there a way to check if you're banned without turning you're console on? Razz


yeah, sure thing

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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 09:24    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
dirtymurt wrote:
now do i buy a new xbox360 if I get banned or just get COD4 for the PS3 to still play online (bout the only game worth playing online, everything else now seems meh!, COD4 has seriously raised the bar on multi)


Well if you already have a PS3 you might aswell get it for that.


its what i did, and its no different, takes abit longer on finding a match but apart from that its exactly the same.
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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 10:48    Post subject:
bought CoD4 the other day just for multi, without checking whether i was banned from the round of bannings and YAY, still not banned. CoD4 rocks my socks online, only game worth it.

I play all my copies on a seperate Offline gamertag and only use my Live account with originals.


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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 13:18    Post subject:
Mass Effect and TheOrangeBox, are the 2 games here with a bad kreon rip


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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2007 22:25    Post subject:
Another interesting theory , there was murmurs that the disk jitter was to blame

Toddler from xbox-scene wrote:

I've been told that the problem is not the Kreon, it is the iXtreme firmware. None of these "bad Kreon" rips are bad.

The problem is related to disc jitter and reads of the SS. The 360 measures the angle of the disc which is part of the SS, and of course an angle can be 360 degrees. That means valid values are 0-359 and then you cycle to 0 again. Factor in disc jitter, and if it jitters too far, the disc angle value could go from 359 to 0. The problem is that the iXtreme firmware was not coded with this in mind and instead bumps it to 360 without cycling around, which means the value it reports is invalid. This apparently became an issue with newer discs (around Halo 3) which started using values in the range that might jitter > 359.

If all of the above is true, then failing Kreon Checker isn't necessarily "bad" but rather just a warning that the disc angle is within tolerance of generating a potentially bad value. And the fix will be an updated iXtreme firmware, which C4Eva is supposedly now working on. So don't play "bad" games in the meantime. Games which pass Kreon Checker should be ok, but use your head. I think I'll personally hold off playing until the new firmware is released.
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Dec 2007 00:55    Post subject:
For those who are Ban and want the lattest Dashboard update
Xbox.LIVE.December.2007.Dashboard.Update-CotR
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rmariani




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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Dec 2007 11:33    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
For those who are Ban and want the lattest Dashboard update
Xbox.LIVE.December.2007.Dashboard.Update-CotR


does this work?
I tried a disk update yesterday but it did not work...
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MiB




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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Dec 2007 13:49    Post subject:
rmariani wrote:
Kommando wrote:
For those who are Ban and want the lattest Dashboard update
Xbox.LIVE.December.2007.Dashboard.Update-CotR


does this work?
I tried a disk update yesterday but it did not work...


i made a new account but when i shall accept or decline the terms of use bla bla bla.. it just freezes there.. same problem? i know my connection work.. anyone know why i cant login? its when the read me rules thing comes up... thnx in advance.. MiB
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 21:21    Post subject:
hehe got banned today

this just proves my theory about them scanning your drive or your console

coz i've never played on x-live Wink

guess demos will have to be dLded via pc now
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Masterflat




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 21:28    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
hehe got banned today

this just proves my theory about them scanning your drive or your console

coz i've never played on x-live Wink

guess demos will have to be dLded via pc now


you just were online / downloading demos? :-/

now i´m scared Crying or Very sad
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Gargamel198024




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 21:32    Post subject:
I am running iXtreme 1.3 with a Sammy drive... Still not banned, might upgrade to 1.4 just to be safe....


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 23:42    Post subject:
Gargamel198024 wrote:
I am running iXtreme 1.3 with a Sammy drive... Still not banned...


it's just a matter of time Twisted Evil
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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 01:40    Post subject:
Thought I was banned there , wouldn't log into live

Finally got on and enjoying burnout demo , wonder why thye don't just ban everyone in one step.

The suspense is killing me Surprised ( 1.4 benq )
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 04:15    Post subject:
Munkeee wrote:
Thought I was banned there , wouldn't log into live

Finally got on and enjoying burnout demo , wonder why thye don't just ban everyone in one step.

The suspense is killing me Surprised ( 1.4 benq )


i guess it's location issues Razz

btw anyone else having similiar problem?

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=201157&page=1
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pcgeek73




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Dec 2007 08:53    Post subject:
I am still fine on my end.
I always remove games from the drive before connecting to live.
I am also not a multiplayer fan at all so that has never been an issue.
So far so good; but I new the minute I modded my firmware it could happen, so now if it happened it wouldnt be a big deal to me anyway. I figure one of these days MS will figure out how to detect the firmware if not stealthed.
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