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Well i least work in the industry doing 3d stuff,what you do beaside jerkoff and games?
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 21:01 Post subject: |
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| GeorgeIvanovich wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | GeorgeIvanovich wrote: | The bottom line it´s that people with 2 years old pc want to run Crysis in high at 60 fps.
I cant tell if a engine its bad or good programed im not a developer,but most of the people here talk shit. |
 Problem is, even the most recent hardware can't run this crap at 60 fps. |
Do you know something about programming?,i guess no.
It´s a developer choice if they do an engine to play now or later with today´s hardware or not i have a 8800 gtx and i play it very well.Not 30 fps all the time but after playing crysis in very high all the games look like tetris.
It´s just a game, if you askme they want to sell the engine and that´s fine.if was a smart choice only time can tell that.
But you can´t say it´s crap because you can run on 60 fps. |
Well it's certainly not consumer friendly. It's probable they were sponsored by hardware manufacturers, how else can they shift their bloated, overpriced chunks of silicon.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 21:20 Post subject: |
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Well yes it´s a risky move to do an engine for few.Mi personal opinion it´s that they do a tech demo for other developers in order to sell the engine.
I don´t saying that the game it´s boring ,i mean that they put more effort in the looks because that it´s the thing that sells.
But i can tell it´s crap or unoptimised.
Engine are pretty complex i just know someones like renderman ,vray,mentalral in surface and involves a lot of mats.
And you simply can´t compare u3 to crytex engine.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 21:24 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | GeorgeIvanovich wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: |
Problem is, even the most recent hardware can't run this crap at 60 fps. |
Do you know something about programming?,i guess no.
It´s a developer choice if they do an engine to play now or later with today´s hardware or not i have a 8800 gtx and i play it very well.Not 30 fps all the time but after playing crysis in very high all the games look like tetris.
It´s just a game, if you askme they want to sell the engine and that´s fine.if was a smart choice only time can tell that.
But you can´t say it´s crap because you can run on 60 fps. |
Well it's certainly not consumer friendly. It's probable they were sponsored by hardware manufacturers, how else can they shift their bloated, overpriced chunks of silicon. |
This game is Like Gothic 3 both have a lot of bugs and performance problems , but only Crysis wins why you ask , because its the next-gen graphic whore world baby , game can crash , have bugs but if they have GFX that whores will stfu and start hyping the shit out of it 
Remembers me Halo 3 , just try to say a bad word about it to console fanboyz and they will crucify you hahaha , wake up guys i don't need plastic shit to say that a game is great , gameplay is what it counts in a game , But guess all have forgot that ... with they one button all commands 
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 22:01 Post subject: |
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So BlueSkyz, what do you think Crysis lacks in gameplay and what is your favourite game?
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tucolino
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 23:16 Post subject: |
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well,for sure crysis looks incredible,but didn´t shock me like far cry did couple years ago.maybe becouse it was a sleeper (ppl were waiting for doom 3 and hl2) and sundely apeared this game from a company nobody ever heard about...
yep, crysis is beautiful.surely i has an incredible engine, but....
imo ,i had no fun playing this game, well maybe at the begining,but after a couple hours it become dull and repetitive,even with the nanosuit or the suposilly fredom this game gives you (that doesn´t exist for me).
after many years playing videogames,when i sit infront of my monitor or tv and play a game all i want is to have fun, and no waste my time looking at the landscape,or the lightning effects.
i had fun with hl episode two.i had fun (and still in mp)with cod4.i had fun,lots and lots of fun with the witcher (that should be goty this year witout a doubt IMO) jeez,i even ejoyed alot bioshock.
but sorry.crysis was disapointing for me,a lot,and it´s a pity becouse on paper it´s my type of game (and yes i can play it with almost everything on max)
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 23:38 Post subject: |
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HEY GUYS FARCRY 2 IS GONNA SHIT ALL OVER CRYSIS
cockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcock
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 23:40 Post subject: |
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| Dazz99 wrote: | | HEY GUYS FARCRY 2 IS GONNA SHIT ALL OVER CRYSIS |
I agree, it looks amazing.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 23:54 Post subject: |
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FarCry 2?Damn where have I been googling it now.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 00:04 Post subject: |
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| Freakness wrote: | | So BlueSkyz, what do you think Crysis lacks in gameplay and what is your favourite game? |
favorite game thats hard to say , well i can say favorite in a specific genre of games
my fist game was Invaders or Pong , there where fun .....
but to say in this genre called FPS whats my favorite game hmmm thats hard , my first Fps on the PC was Wolfenstein 3D , game was fun but it got boring for a while ... my favorite game hmmm let me think , Deus Ex , Doom 3 and others its really hard to say
"what do you think Crysis lacks in gameplay"
*They lack the story , yeah some will say "humans with cybersuits rescue earth" but thats what every game you played in this genre has given you remember Halo , Unreal ... :/
*Its misses a Good story presentation ,even a arcade shooter like doom3 had some story presentation (even Quake 4 had fantastic story presentation), shoot me now but even a dull Halo 1 had better story presentation then crysis , if they wanted to make live camera angles and show your own perspective of the story like it was presented in HL2/Halo then they Failed
*Ok so i got this cybersuit that has only what 60 sec battery :/ , ok don't get me wrong nice idea but where is the fun factor here , if it was like 2-4 min then it would be nice
*The same with the physics engine , HL2 is a good example they made a physics engine and they show it in every game with some simple logic puzzles that use gravity , Does crysis use they engine for that ... nope you can shoot trees OK but for what ? If you base your game on the climate of "Predator" then give us invisible aliens that grab and throw those trees , too add you can't even shoot though walls , yes you can destroy them but shoot trough them that a different story
*Game is to short , ok i get that we have a new HD era (marketing BS PC allways had it maybe not the consoles) textures are getting bigger and eat space but why Better Graphics mean Less gameplay time ... thats absurd if you ask me , I blame consoles for that with they main stream kiddies that need games that you can finish in 5-9h in one sitting
*It misses Gore and Blood
*it misses a living environment , killer mutated plants WOHO 
*I don't even start with the bugs that this game has and the balance problems and this stupid AI and unoptimized engine (the best part of it is that the producers blame the hardware for it and don't do crap about tweaking the engine )
Well if you strip away the graphic you get (don't shoot me now because it is a comparison to the story) a lame Halo clone with changed theme but even halo has some thing that kept you going forward glued to the screen , this game has none of this
Edit:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/craziness/1800-in-video-cards-still-doesnt-max-crysis-333598.php
this make me go LOL
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 00:21 Post subject: |
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What exactly is so amazing about FC2 anyways? Im not talking about graphics because as far as i know there are no HD videos of FC2 and cant really trust screens. But from the demo gameplay it looks like your standard shooter.
Oh yeah, so that you dont bash me, CRYSIS SUX, wha it only has graphics going for it, and to quote Leo "OMGZ IT DUZNT RUN ON MY 5 YEAR OLDZ PCZZZ, IT IZ TUTOALLY UNOPTIMIZED".
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 00:33 Post subject: |
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I noticed, i was commenting on Dazz and AM comments.
When FC just came out, i couldn't run it on high either, my comp wasnt the top of the line, but it was far from being shit. Six months later, i got new parts and it ran smooth as butter. I believe it will be same with crysis (if anyone is going to play it 6 months later). I like to replay my older games and laugh them in face on how smooth they run now compared to when i just bought them.
And i guess i got lucky, as i did not notice any bugs in the game. It didnt crush once, no missing items. I did notice the stupid AI though. I guess i wasnt bored of it because i played in large intervals as i couldn't afford to beat in one go.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 00:46 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: | I noticed, i was commenting on Dazz and AM comments.
When FC just came out, i couldn't run it on high either, my comp wasnt the top of the line, but it was far from being shit. Six months later, i got new parts and it ran smooth as butter. I believe it will be same with crysis (if anyone is going to play it 6 months later). I like to replay my older games and laugh them in face on how smooth they run now compared to when i just bought them.
And i guess i got lucky, as i did not notice any bugs in the game. It didnt crush once, no missing items. I did notice the stupid AI though. I guess i wasnt bored of it because i played in large intervals as i couldn't afford to beat in one go. |
yeah, I had to run FarCry fairly low when it came out (ATI 8500LE). Only when I got some newer hardware a while ago (6600GT) I could play it on high with sm3.0.
So hey, in a year or two I'll revist Crysis too And yeah, I played in maybe 1-2 hours intervals (as I do for all games now), and it didn't get repetitive 
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 00:52 Post subject: |
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Well even now (c2d, 8800gt, 2 gigs of old ass ram) it ran quite good, everything on high except post processing, shadows and aax2. It still looked good, and about 30-40 fps, which is quite playable for me.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 01:48 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: | What exactly is so amazing about FC2 anyways? Im not talking about graphics because as far as i know there are no HD videos of FC2 and cant really trust screens. But from the demo gameplay it looks like your standard shooter.
Oh yeah, so that you dont bash me, CRYSIS SUX, wha it only has graphics going for it, and to quote Leo "OMGZ IT DUZNT RUN ON MY 5 YEAR OLDZ PCZZZ, IT IZ TUTOALLY UNOPTIMIZED". |
The completely free and open gameplay with truly dynamic interaction in a massive world. Crysis gave the illusion of freedom by having open playing areas along a linear path, Farcry 2 is a sandbox game. That coupled with the immersion makes a massive difference in my opinion.
Check out these two video's if you haven't seen them already.
I know you mention the 'demo' but there are multiple versions of the same demonstration, this is the superior one in my opinion.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 02:03 Post subject: |
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I was basing my previous on opinion on those two vidoes, the place is indeed huge, but there seems to be alot of just place fillers with nothing to do. Like in the first video he was wondering for quite a while until he found a fire fight. It might not be completed yet, but i dont think it will be fun just running around the forest, watching trees grow, and fight off animals. Of course it is a matter of opinion, and i will definitely get FC2 as im a FPS junkie, but i dont expect anything radically different from it, just more of the same, which is not a bad thing.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 02:27 Post subject: |
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I'm sure you will be able to drive vehicles so you don't have to walk.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 02:55 Post subject: |
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True, but then it will feel like a chore. Look at san andreas, huge map, but most places are just desert, now where the fun in that. Vice city on the other hand is pretty small, but every place feels unique, and there for a reason.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 08:09 Post subject: |
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*They lack the story , yeah some will say "humans with cybersuits rescue earth" but thats what every game you played in this genre has given you remember Halo , Unreal ... :/
= As you said there is no other FPS who has a better Story. Only HL2 has a better Story but the presentation is extremly bad
*Its misses a Good story presentation ,even a arcade shooter like doom3 had some story presentation (even Quake 4 had fantastic story presentation), shoot me now but even a dull Halo 1 had better story presentation then crysis , if they wanted to make live camera angles and show your own perspective of the story like it was presented in HL2/Halo then they Failed
=> sorry but i cant understand this. The presentation of the story is really good. There are really nice cutscenes and there are many dialogs. If you compare it to the story and presentation of Farcry 1 its a really big positiv jump!
*Ok so i got this cybersuit that has only what 60 sec battery :/ , ok don't get me wrong nice idea but where is the fun factor here , if it was like 2-4 min then it would be nice
=> it is nice. There are so many things you can do with this cybersuit and the physiksystem. You only have to be creative!
*The same with the physics engine , HL2 is a good example they made a physics engine and they show it in every game with some simple logic puzzles that use gravity , Does crysis use they engine for that ... nope you can shoot trees OK but for what ? If you base your game on the climate of "Predator" then give us invisible aliens that grab and throw those trees , too add you can't even shoot though walls , yes you can destroy them but shoot trough them that a different story
=> the same like up. You for yourself have to be creative! Its all there but you cant think that you are allways getting lead by the devs.
The players allways shouting for more open gameplay and if its there the players complain
about the missing "lead" in Gameplay
*Game is to short , ok i get that we have a new HD era (marketing BS PC allways had it maybe not the consoles) textures are getting bigger and eat space but why Better Graphics mean Less gameplay time ... thats absurd if you ask me , I blame consoles for that with they main stream kiddies that need games that you can finish in 5-9h in one sitting
=> you need about 10-14 hours to get through the game. Thats really okay for a fps!
*It misses Gore and Blood
=> thats wrong you can active Blood in the menue
*it misses a living environment , killer mutated plants WOHO
=> lol sry but you can mean this seriously or? There are turtels, crabs, pigeons, fish,....
*I don't even start with the bugs that this game has and the balance problems and this stupid AI and unoptimized engine (the best part of it is that the producers blame the hardware for it and don't do crap about tweaking the engine )
=> the AI has some compositors but not more then other "big" fps. And about the unoptimized engine - its really the missing hardware. The 8800GTX is over 1 year on the market.. there is no new highend since over a year!
Well if you strip away the graphic you get (don't shoot me now because it is a comparison to the story) a lame Halo clone with changed theme but even halo has some thing that kept you going forward glued to the screen , this game has none of this
=> yeah and if you strip away the halo from halo you get wolfenstein clone *hammer*
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 08:17 Post subject: |
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[quote="BlueSkyz"]
But you know which insane resolution the Benchmark ran?
1920x1200....
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/724/1197459453197qj7.png
in 1280x1024 i have 40fps on "high" settings with some tweaks (dx10 sunrays)
(C2D 3,4 GHz, 8800GTS, 2GB Ram)
Thats really okay and crysis is absolut playable with 40fps average!
When Farcry was released we had the same if not lower fps... without high-end hardware you were not be able to play farcry with highest settings at the releaseday!
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 09:51 Post subject: |
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man you guys really like bitching about the cream of the crop here. where's the "be happy you actually have AAA games to play" and "stfu" options?
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 10:06 Post subject: |
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| Submiqent wrote: | | AAA games to play |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Dec 2007 11:12 Post subject: |
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| 3dcViper wrote: |
When Farcry was released we had the same if not lower fps... without high-end hardware you were not be able to play farcry with highest settings at the releaseday! |
That's simply not true. I had a P4 1.8 GHZ, 768 MB PC-133 SDRAM and a crappy GF 5900xt and Far Cry ran good with highest details. A 1.8 GHZ P4 was already ancient in 2004 and a 5900xt was never a good card, not even when it was just released. Far Cry was very optimized.
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