[XBOX] New round of live bans
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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 17:27    Post subject:
chakdeindya wrote:
that was my first thought too...But what could they have done to get it banned...maybe put in parts from a banned console and send it to me???


maybe sent you a completely different console. Perhaps replaced only your case. Did you mark the parts inside? the DVD? maybe they went on live with dodgy copies to test it. You may just have been due to be banned.
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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 17:49    Post subject:
chakdeindya wrote:
that was my first thought too...But what could they have done to get it banned...maybe put in parts from a banned console and send it to me???


Gave you the innards of a banned box. Is it your same one for sure? Did you put a mark on it or something so you know it's your case? Also, you can swap the shell.


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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 17:50    Post subject:
dirtymurt wrote:
chakdeindya wrote:
that was my first thought too...But what could they have done to get it banned...maybe put in parts from a banned console and send it to me???


maybe sent you a completely different console. Perhaps replaced only your case. Did you mark the parts inside? the DVD? maybe they went on live with dodgy copies to test it. You may just have been due to be banned.


Hahahahah - looks like i should have refreshed before responding!


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chakdeindya
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 17:51    Post subject:
ah well screw it!! I modded it, so I guess I deserve the consequences...if they tricked me someway, they will get it one way or the other...I always believe what goes around comes around!!!


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 18:26    Post subject:
dirtymurt wrote:
chakdeindya wrote:
that was my first thought too...But what could they have done to get it banned...maybe put in parts from a banned console and send it to me???


maybe sent you a completely different console. Perhaps replaced only your case. Did you mark the parts inside? the DVD? maybe they went on live with dodgy copies to test it. You may just have been due to be banned.


i seriously doubt they replaced the console, for one why would they replace a broken console with a known working one, banned or not a working console is more valuable then a rrod one, xboxpros has been tested by some users down at xbox-scene whove sent their boxes to them got them back and opened up their boxes to see what repairs they carried out (no console swapping has ever been mentioned before)

Its not economically viable for xboxpros to replace parts to get someones xbox working, they just do the xclamp fix which requires like 5 bucks worth of screws and use a heatgun to heat up the solder of the gpu chip. If it cant be fixed via this method, theyll just tell you they cant fix it and send u back the box and refund your repair fee.

Clearly chak has modded his console and it has been banned in the recent waves whilst it was away for repair. Its not rocket science.

To be honest, youve been scammed by not repairing your box yourself, all xboxpros do is X clamp replacement and possibly heat up the board, if youve experience in building pcs (putting thermal paste on heatsinks) then youve no reason to send a box off to a repair place unless its a 'proper' repair which costs 100 quid at least and invovles high tech equipment to professionally reball the gpu to the motherboard. On a sad note, your xbox will die again as youve only had it fixed temporarily, the best way to keep it going is to keep it horizontal and try to keep it as cool as possible.
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chakdeindya
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 18:43    Post subject:
wow!!! thats not very encouraging....guess I will just go out and get a 360 arcade while I can then!!!


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Dec 2007 18:45    Post subject:
just make sure you get a falcon chip one. Microsoft have severely fucked up the xbox design this time around I dont know whether the falcon chip has fixed the problem but we can only hope Wink
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adslmaster




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Dec 2007 20:27    Post subject:
I know its not very good morrally correct (seen as thats why we are all here lol) but the best way to sort a fucked xbox is to go buy a new one and put yours in its place and take it back for a full refund (faulty goods have to be refunded if they are returned in a certain amount of time) you an probably even get away with not swapping the shells so the serials match up, I had a ps2 that died that I had had for a while I bought one at GAME (UK) put mine its box and took it back the same day all they did was plug it in and confirm what I told them that it wouldnt even come on and I got my money back, the funniest thing is that I did swap the shells over but the way I did the warranty sticker wasnt the best and could have been spotted by anyone paying even a little bit of attention to it. Dont feel guilty about doing it they rip us off daily.
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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Dec 2007 21:58    Post subject:
adslmaster wrote:
I know its not very good morrally correct (seen as thats why we are all here lol) but the best way to sort a fucked xbox is to go buy a new one and put yours in its place and take it back for a full refund (faulty goods have to be refunded if they are returned in a certain amount of time) you an probably even get away with not swapping the shells so the serials match up, I had a ps2 that died that I had had for a while I bought one at GAME (UK) put mine its box and took it back the same day all they did was plug it in and confirm what I told them that it wouldnt even come on and I got my money back, the funniest thing is that I did swap the shells over but the way I did the warranty sticker wasnt the best and could have been spotted by anyone paying even a little bit of attention to it. Dont feel guilty about doing it they rip us off daily.


yep done it with tesco with my banned xbox , flashed the new one and returned within 2 hours , Never swapped the casing but cleaned it up a small bit

just said that i found a wii so no need for xbox , they never even opened the box to check ( swapped a joypad that had a wonky bumper )
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Anakin@DF
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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 01:46    Post subject:
adslmaster wrote:
I know its not very good morrally correct (seen as thats why we are all here lol) but the best way to sort a fucked xbox is to go buy a new one and put yours in its place and take it back for a full refund


I dont give a fuck about pirating software but what your doing is fucking crap yah pussy.
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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 03:14    Post subject:
Anakin@DF wrote:
adslmaster wrote:
I know its not very good morrally correct (seen as thats why we are all here lol) but the best way to sort a fucked xbox is to go buy a new one and put yours in its place and take it back for a full refund


I dont give a fuck about pirating software but what your doing is fucking crap yah pussy.


What's the difference then? still theft init
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Tr00p3r




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 04:09    Post subject:
hmmm not really the same imo.
I kept my banned and bought new.
Buy the games we play and "test" some others.
You won't get rotten goods at the stores from me.
Naw ripping consoles is nowhere the same as testing games. sorry
and with live as screwed up as it is right now there is no demos
Very Happy
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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2007 12:20    Post subject:
Tr00p3r wrote:
hmmm not really the same imo.
I kept my banned and bought new.
Buy the games we play and "test" some others.
You won't get rotten goods at the stores from me.
Naw ripping consoles is nowhere the same as testing games. sorry
and with live as screwed up as it is right now there is no demos
Very Happy


I'm not holier than thou, downloaded more software than you can imagine over the years and i don't give a ****

However you dress it up though, it is theft. it's a product taken without being paid for.
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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jan 2008 19:33    Post subject:
I think in the case of RROD i agree with adslmaster. Downloading games is theft period, tell the judge when your being sentenced that it's different.

Edit:

TBH i think you get in more trouble for piracy then doing what adslmaster had mentioned.


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laller




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2008 15:21    Post subject:
i had a premium box,banned from live.have a new one(arcade)i play only originals.may i have a chance to bann again???or if i play with full stealth patched games ,they gonna bann me?or it's in the update???i have the latest dash update ,and still online.
Thanks in advance guys:)
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timechange01
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2008 19:54    Post subject:
whoKnows wrote:
I don't get it why people just don't buy a second console if they really care that much about Live, a Core isn't that expensive anymore. Instead people waste their time speculating about the bans, update firmwares, speculate some more, and finally get upset then the banhammer hits them.


Or just buy an unmodded red ringed system and fix the rrod which takes about 10 to 20 minutes and then youre all good for LIVE.



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areslinux




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 00:30    Post subject:
Just a little thinking.

Its the "Firmware" hacks that are banned right....
what happens if someone uses for example a NME chip or a Infectus?

Have anyone heard reports on these being banned?
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manu_xl




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 01:16    Post subject:
to date we can state that modded firmwares are not visible to microsoft, hence wont get you banned. otherwise more consoles would have been banned.

the bannings are based on backup issues (non-stealth/wrong ss/etc) ... some also on fan mods apparently (?)
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 01:25    Post subject:
manu_xl wrote:
to date we can state that modded firmwares are not visible to microsoft, hence wont get you banned. otherwise more consoles would have been banned.

the bannings are based on backup issues (non-stealth/wrong ss/etc) ... some also on fan mods apparently (?)


that's your statement and another speculation of course Rolling Eyes

where is explanaton on consoles getting banned without EVER running backups when connected to xlive
at least that was my personal experience
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 01:32    Post subject:
maybe it stores information whilst you are offline, or pulls up a banme flag, then when you go online boom youre banned
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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 04:24    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
maybe it stores information whilst you are offline, or pulls up a banme flag, then when you go online boom youre banned


I was thinking something along those lines or like some people have said, logged into live, flashed, logged back in -- banned. As if live does a check sum or something on the firmware then the next time it does if there is a change it knows. I can't claim to know what it is this round nobody knows for sure yet, but it certainly seems plausible to me.


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Gargamel198024




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 04:38    Post subject:
I modded my box before connecting to LIVE the very first time... Now I keep my FW up to date, now running iXtreme 1.4... Still not banned, play backup of Halo 3 that I originally downloaded a week before release everyday...

I am wondering if you mod before connecting, if that has anything to do with not getting banned?


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the_legend2k7




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 21:15    Post subject:
Did the same thing with mine, and have played a great deal of backups online (Madden, COD4, NHL, etc) and been fine over the last few years. I am still using 1.3
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2008 22:15    Post subject:
Gargamel198024 wrote:
I modded my box before connecting to LIVE the very first time... Now I keep my FW up to date, now running iXtreme 1.4... Still not banned, play backup of Halo 3 that I originally downloaded a week before release everyday...

I am wondering if you mod before connecting, if that has anything to do with not getting banned?
seems like its totally random...
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Anakin@DF
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 01:40    Post subject:
Still not banned bitches!!!!.

Samsung MS28 with V1.2c Ixtreme.
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 01:54    Post subject:
Is there still anyone with an old normal Xtreme firmware that isnt't banned??
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chakdeindya
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 16:30    Post subject:
I thought I wont be affected by the ban but;

no game updates
no xvid/divx/hd playback
unused points

you got me Microsoft. I am thinking of going legit and getting a new 360. Anyway I dont play that many games any more. Just this sunday, I gave away most of my backups made from 2006 onwards.I am only keeping COD4, Bioshock and Forza 2. I am already renting games for the ps3, I can just add on any 360 games that are interesting.


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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 17:41    Post subject:
im on xtreme 5.2 and still unbanned...

then again, i play safe, seperate gamertag for backups offline (cable unplugged), live account is played with retails only. so basically, if the multiplayer is worth it, ill buy it
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Nazgul9




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 17:43    Post subject:
manu_xl wrote:
the bannings are based on backup issues (non-stealth/wrong ss/etc) ... some also on fan mods apparently (?)

What do you mean by non-stealth/wrong ss/etc? Being a noob when it comes to this could anyone please explain it to me?
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jan 2008 18:33    Post subject:
Anakin@DF wrote:
Still not banned bitches!!!!.

Samsung MS28 with V1.2c Ixtreme.

^exactly the same

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