Odd Problem - Causing Random Freezes
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 20:56    Post subject: Odd Problem - Causing Random Freezes
XP SP2 (Legal)
P4 3.2
2Gb RAM
6800GT 256Mb
500W PSU
3 IDE HDD's (2x250, 1x120[OS DRIVE])
2x SATA (300Gb)

Ok, for the past week or so I've been experiencing random OS freezes, they do not cause the machine to crash, nor do they cause any program to crash. They stop the mouse from moving, if audio is playing it repeats until the machine "starts" again, video stops completely. After the freeze I can hear a gentle click sound coming from the machine.

My instant reaction was that the HDD was dying, however, I would imagine a dying HDD would cause a full crash, it would also show other signs of death such as louder crunching sounds, nothing like that is happening. Not to mention the OS would be running in RAM not from the HDD, so it shouldn't freeze, just die. My next reaction was that the PSU was dying, that the click was some form of component coming on to regulate the voltage (I can't remember the name of the electronic component that clicks in this way.. having a brain fart.. Neutral).. This was backed up by me noticing the fan in the front of my machine having stopped about a min after one of these freezes.

Any other thoughts?

I havent had a chance to look around for answers or do any testing as I've been busy working, but I will be doing some checks this weekend!
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 21:12    Post subject:
Q:I've been experiencing random OS freezes
A:Ram sticks are damaged

Q:Still experiencing random OS freezes
A:Are you sure those Ram sticks are compatible with your board

Q:Yes i am sure about it
A:Did you tried reinstall windows

Q:Hey but I said , I hear a click sound when it crashes
A:Click sound ? from where ? one of the fans ? on what component ?

Q:I think they are from the PSU region , noticing the fan in the front of my machine having stopped about a min after one of these freezes
A:How old is your PSU and what brand , and if you are sure about that click and this PSu is one of those Cheap Ass kind then get a new one or something has gotten into that PSU like dirt/dust for example
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 21:20    Post subject:
stop talking to yourself man Razz

anywho it could be overheating caused by dust

ram and or psu as mentioned above and overclocking or simply some driver conflicts/issues

so here ya go
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 21:22    Post subject:
Run memtest over night.

Dieing HDD can in fact cause OS freezes, experienced myself Mad

Dieing PSU usually shows symptoms when computer is under heavy load for example when playing a game (artifacts in games, crashing games). So if your OS freezes when it's idle I wouldn't think it's dieing PSU but of course could be over wise, you never know for sure with computer hardware Smile


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swingman




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jan 2008 21:35    Post subject:
Here's another possibility. A process running/updating in the background and hogging resources. That repeating audio is a symptom of 'stuck' programs.
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Lutzifer
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 01:31    Post subject:
if you are using kaspersky, that is the culprit. I had the same problems and couldnt figure out where it came from and KIS was the last thing i thought of. You can either update to the newest version 321 (which seems to have some problems of its own) or disable the keylogger-detection feature in the proactive defense settings...
for more check the kaspersky forum
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manu_xl




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 02:11    Post subject:
99% chance it will be a faulty hdd
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008 07:57    Post subject:
When i overclocked a lot i had the same problem Razz
My RAM was ok and when i dont overclock that much everything works fine.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008 08:03    Post subject:
XP SP2 (Legal): Thats your problem right there Laughing
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