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azzman




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 00:58    Post subject:
I dont think it has a chance to have the same depth and quality as GTA. I didnt think the first SR was as good as SA, each to their own I suppose.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 02:54    Post subject:
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Ok, its official, I'm looking forward to this game more than GTAIV. With all these improvements and the impeccable gamepad control(something that, IMHO, GTA never nailed) and the fact that rockstar is going hd for first time whereas volition is just getting better at it, I'd hafta go with the Saints on this one.

Plus, they got Insurance fraud. How is GTA gonna top that?


Now it´s two months later...anyone still think Saints Row 2 will be better than gta4!?


Yeah I do actually. GTA has more humor and story going for it, but that's about it. Seems to me as the series advances, each game keeps me entertained less and less. Could be the outdated graphics, the controls which never seem to get right, or the lack of new ideas. Whatever it is, GTA3 and VC were the high points of the series, I am afraid. But yeah, to each their own.

Besides that, GTA still is pussy-footing around the multiplayer modes, which will probably end up just like tacked on SA mp. SR2 is gonna have Full Co-op through the whole game. Can't beat that for MP.

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R33P3R




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 13:22    Post subject:
all you people going on about framerate in SR, what about GTA, it's never had a good framerate since it left 2D? ..infact all apart from 2D versions have been shite to play.
maybe GTA4 will actually be worth playing if they sort the controlls & framerate out, atleast SR2 is trying to correct it's probs ..something which GTA has never really done over the years.. Rolling Eyes


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 14:10    Post subject:
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all you people going on about framerate in SR, what about GTA, it's never had a good framerate since it left 2D? ..infact all apart from 2D versions have been shite to play.
maybe GTA4 will actually be worth playing if they sort the controlls & framerate out, atleast SR2 is trying to correct it's probs ..something which GTA has never really done over the years.. Rolling Eyes


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pc versions had pretty good fps since 3rd part, hell i had to use v-sync in gta3 and vc

never played them on consoles tho
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deelix
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 15:01    Post subject:
Iv never tried any of the GTA games on console either... so do you guys think GTA4 is gonna get autoaim? I personally doubt it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 21:35    Post subject:
R33P3R wrote:
all you people going on about framerate in SR, what about GTA, it's never had a good framerate since it left 2D? ..infact all apart from 2D versions have been shite to play.
maybe GTA4 will actually be worth playing if they sort the controlls & framerate out, atleast SR2 is trying to correct it's probs ..something which GTA has never really done over the years.. Rolling Eyes


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at the end of the day shitwhorefaggots like you piss me off. you moan about shitty little details like framerate (ofwhich there were fuck all problems with the previous gtas) when youre missing the bigger picture about what makes these games good. Saint's Row is by no means a bad game, but its unorginal and its certainly not a great game in the league of gta. I guess you like to eat junk food just as long as you can shovel it down your throat.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 22:16    Post subject:
yeah, some of the things in SR1 was taken more-or-less str8 out of GTA :\
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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 22:27    Post subject:
I liked Saints Row for a bit, but i really got tired of having to perform the respect missions. Also, well doing the respect missions having to defend turf and having some weird incident where they are up on a bridge but if you try to get up there the turf battle starts over and other weird bugs like that.

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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 08:19    Post subject:
Yeah, was a little annoying when you had to protect the places you "own" after every 2nd mission or so. If you just quit and load again its Automaticly theirs spot again Sad

But im still really looking forward to see the coop part. Very few games have a GREAT singleplayer and coop. I don't say Crackdown was bad (really cool imo), but it was all the same.. and no story related video Sequences etc.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 10:09    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Yeah, was a little annoying when you had to protect the places you "own" after every 2nd mission or so. If you just quit and load again its Automaticly theirs spot again Sad

But im still really looking forward to see the coop part. Very few games have a GREAT singleplayer and coop. I don't say Crackdown was bad (really cool imo), but it was all the same.. and no story related video Sequences etc.


True about the protecting part. But come on, wasn't anyone else freaking bored as shit with San Andrea's even worse 'gang takeover' or whatever the hell their version was? I mean the game just seemed to want to add pointless time to the game by forcing you to control rival gang properties that were defended by wave after wave of moronic enemies. Repetitious as hell if you ask me. So both games had their shitty parts, but SR just outdid SA in most respects.

And yeah, If Volition nails the Co-op portion of the game and combine what was great about the original with a way in which another player can jump in and out of the game(maybe even refining the already pretty awesome co-op system from crackdown), it will be truly be kickass. IMHO, that would have alot more replay value than GTA4 even with the episodic content and whatever deathmatch-type modes they manage to throw in.

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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 11:03    Post subject:
The gfx and ragdoll never made it boring to drive over people Twisted Evil

So all in all I think SR is better than GTA3/VC/SA.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 11:12    Post subject:
vehicle costumization much more superior and u had unlimited storage

i still think sr1 loox better than gta4, even tho fps sucked
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yoyoxp




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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 13:02    Post subject:
R33P3R wrote:
all you people going on about framerate in SR, what about GTA, it's never had a good framerate since it left 2D? ..infact all apart from 2D versions have been shite to play.
maybe GTA4 will actually be worth playing if they sort the controlls & framerate out, atleast SR2 is trying to correct it's probs ..something which GTA has never really done over the years.. Rolling Eyes


R33P3R Twisted Evil

PC GTAs always ran smooth for me, so I can't comment on console versions... Hell even my laptop with crappy intel integrated crap video card played san andreas no lag...

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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 13:03    Post subject:
Hmm, didn't anybody else find SR1 wayy tooo harrdd?

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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 13:06    Post subject:
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Hmm, didn't anybody else find SR1 wayy tooo harrdd?


no auto aim is a bitch right? Laughing

nahhh i found it ok, hell even completed all challenges, something i've never managed to do in any of the gta
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 13:16    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
Horrordee wrote:
Hmm, didn't anybody else find SR1 wayy tooo harrdd?


no auto aim is a bitch right? Laughing

nahhh i found it ok, hell even completed all challenges, something i've never managed to do in any of the gta
could be that its your only orginal game Very Happy ? I just completed the story, still fun tho. Archivement hunting is mostly just a waste of time.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 16:11    Post subject:
Well now. Many of you are comparing GTA3-series from last generation with SR from this generation. The SR folks didnt have to invent the wheel excactly, they just put new rubber on it. Wink

No doubt GTA will beat SR in every way when it comes out in the end of April. Obviously Rockstar have adressed alot of the problems from previous games.

about the action/shooting:
http://media.rockstarwatch.net/newsmedia/9170382564.jpg

and the driving:
http://media.rockstarwatch.net/newsmedia/8627495130.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 05:57    Post subject:
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Well now. Many of you are comparing GTA3-series from last generation with SR from this generation. The SR folks didnt have to invent the wheel excactly, they just put new rubber on it. Wink

No doubt GTA will beat SR in every way when it comes out in the end of April. Obviously Rockstar have adressed alot of the problems from previous games.

about the action/shooting:
http://media.rockstarwatch.net/newsmedia/9170382564.jpg

and the driving:
http://media.rockstarwatch.net/newsmedia/8627495130.jpg


And you know this all because of...a couple magazine shots layering praise upon the game? That is on some fansite dedicated to r*? Yup sounds like some factual evidence to me. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Anyways whatever, I am just happy that there is more than one of these games coming out this year and will enjoy both thoroughly, no matter which is the better one. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 10:24    Post subject:
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about the action/shooting:
http://media.rockstarwatch.net/newsmedia/9170382564.jpg


So the same old lock on auto aim crap is back. How disappointing. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 10:29    Post subject:
wtf, I never used autoaim in SR Surprised
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azzman




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 10:53    Post subject:
I read the lock on targeting is an option. You can free aim also
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 12:01    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
wtf, I never used autoaim in SR Surprised


coz it didn't had any Laughing
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 14:39    Post subject:
Would be kinda scary to complete the whole game if it had that Razz

oh well Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 21:54    Post subject:
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And you know this all because of...a couple magazine shots layering praise upon the game?


Of course not, it was just to show that they have changed some of the core gameplay, which they have been critizised for.

I do however feel that GTA plays in a complete other league than SR. The better. Hell they even started the sport in the first place. Embarassed Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 22:56    Post subject:
What's with all the comparison going on in here? Clearly there is room for both games in our lives. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008 23:16    Post subject:
http://item.slide.com/r/1/7/i/YH5EDat2kz_mP50QNS-W1H2Co5lGsTxa/
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 00:09    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
http://item.slide.com/r/1/7/i/YH5EDat2kz_mP50QNS-W1H2Co5lGsTxa/


If that pic alone isn't enough to get someone excited, I don't know what will.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 01:53    Post subject:
hehe yep. To be fair, these pics look better:
http://www.thq-games.com/uk/game/screenshots/2597
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 12:01    Post subject:
azzman wrote:
I read the lock on targeting is an option. You can free aim also


Are you talking about GTA4 or SR2 now? Confused

Anyway the problem with games that offer both is that usually the whole gameplay and difficulty is adjusted to the use of the lock on system. The game often becomes exceptionally difficult and/or awkward if you don't use the lock on system. Imo the best way is to give the player only free aim and nothing else.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 15:23    Post subject:
who cares if sr2 isnt as good as gta4 - we'll have both of them for fucking free anyway
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