high def simpsons movie?
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korgoth3




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 06:30    Post subject: high def simpsons movie?
anyone know anything about the simpsons movie high def release?
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 06:46    Post subject:
I dig around and cant find one release in HD...quite shocked to see that
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 06:54    Post subject:
think i saw it a while back... but why bother? its ugly low quality cheap animation, why would u want to see it in hd?


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 07:02    Post subject:
because its a great movie, and the animation isnt cheap or lowquality
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 07:10    Post subject:
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Fox presents 'The Simpsons Movie' in 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 video. The most striking aspect of the presentation is certainly the colors. Hues are wonderfully vivid and smooth, with bold uses of primaries and subtle shadings and gradients that far exceed anything seen on the TV series. As you would expect, the source is immaculate, with not a whiff of grain or any other imperfections. Blacks are rock solid, with contrast expertly modulated across the entire grayscale. This image really pops with depth and detail, and it's sharp as a tack. I was continually surprised at how three-dimensional it all looks -- even "dark" scenes have a richness of texture that's faultless. Finally, despite the bold animation style, I noticed no posterization or macroblocking.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1164/simpsonsmovie.html


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 08:15    Post subject:
korgoth3 wrote:
because its a great movie, and the animation isnt cheap or lowquality


if youd watch it, youd clearly see that yes the animation was very cheaply produced, which is surprising given how long the film was in coming to the theatre.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 11:25    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
korgoth3 wrote:
because its a great movie, and the animation isnt cheap or lowquality


if youd watch it, youd clearly see that yes the animation was very cheaply produced, which is surprising given how long the film was in coming to the theatre.


Simpson was never about the animation, it's like saying south park sux because of the animation...please

also avsforum ranks it as one of the best HD title around and I quote

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These are reference quality titles with the cleanest and sharpest image available. Films in this tier are demo material and represent the best of the best Blu-ray has to offer.


it's not release in HD because it's a fox title, fox title are BD+ and groups are still struggling with the protection.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 12:20    Post subject:
[EviL] wrote:
chiv wrote:
korgoth3 wrote:
because its a great movie, and the animation isnt cheap or lowquality


if youd watch it, youd clearly see that yes the animation was very cheaply produced, which is surprising given how long the film was in coming to the theatre.


Simpson was never about the animation, it's like saying south park sux because of the animation...please

also avsforum ranks it as one of the best HD title around and I quote

Quote:
These are reference quality titles with the cleanest and sharpest image available. Films in this tier are demo material and represent the best of the best Blu-ray has to offer.


it's not release in HD because it's a fox title, fox title are BD+ and groups are still struggling with the protection.


if youd read my first post youd know my bringing up animation quality is only in reference to why someone could possibly want to see this in hd... its a low quality film, so its somewhat pointless - i admit that thats just my PERSONAL opinion and everyones free to have their own etc.. etc...

furthermore, i did bring up the question as to why they decided to put so little effort into the animation of the film, especially given how popular the simpsons movie is, and how much money it would make... did fox just figure that simpsons fans arent worth the effort because they'll love it no matter what?



also its not hard to make a 2d cheaply animated film look pristine on the hd format, which is why it has a nice rating... doesnt mean much, theyre just rating quality of the release, nothing more, and im not debating the quality of the bluray release, so how nice a reviewer thinks the transfer is, has no real bearing on my statement..


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 17:54    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
think i saw it a while back... but why bother? its ugly low quality cheap animation, why would u want to see it in hd?


wrong,

check out the HD cut scenes in the simpsons game, a world apart from SD

also

BD+ has been circumvented, silver surfer was a BD+ title and that's out
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chiv




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 18:19    Post subject:
once again, your talking about the merits of high definition over standard definition and missing my point... the animation is low quality, and im just saying in MY opinion (and ill repeat, its just mine, and people are free to have their own) i could never justify getting it in hd, because a higher resolution version of something ugly and cheap, is still going to look ugly and cheap no matter how big and crisp you make the image.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jan 2008 19:39    Post subject:
nothing ugly and cheap about the Simpsons mate, stylised is what it is.


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korgoth3




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 09:08    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
once again, your talking about the merits of high definition over standard definition and missing my point... the animation is low quality, and im just saying in MY opinion (and ill repeat, its just mine, and people are free to have their own) i could never justify getting it in hd, because a higher resolution version of something ugly and cheap, is still going to look ugly and cheap no matter how big and crisp you make the image.


your opinion is wrong. its not a cheaply made movie, the animation is not all 2d like you said in a previous post. a lot of the movie is actually animated in 3d. So to say its your opinion that they should have spent more on the animation instead of making it 2d, is not only wrong, its just ignorant.

you have no idea how much money they spent on animation. you cant even tell 2d from 3d.
The style is made to look like 2d, which many other animations do as well. Futurama for example, as well as a million anime's such as ghost in the shell 2.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 09:52    Post subject:
saying 2d wasnt intended to be aimed specifically at this particular film, it was in response as to why it would have a good high definition transfer, because theres so little detail involved... and yes i can tell the difference between 2d and 3d... you on the other hand cant even understand the point of my original post... youve gotten yourself lost and confused between talking about a completely different issue, and the original point, which was the lack of quality animation in the film. well done.


perhaps you should go watch some anime rather than just your usual sunday morning cartoons, and get a taste of what quality animation looks like?


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korgoth3




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 10:19    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
saying 2d wasnt intended to be aimed specifically at this particular film, it was in response as to why it would have a good high definition transfer, because theres so little detail involved... and yes i can tell the difference between 2d and 3d... you on the other hand cant even understand the point of my original post... youve gotten yourself lost and confused between talking about a completely different issue, and the original point, which was the lack of quality animation in the film. well done.


perhaps you should go watch some anime rather than just your usual sunday morning cartoons, and get a taste of what quality animation looks like?



if it was a miscommunication in any way then thats that.. no big deal people are entitled to their opinion. it just sounds as though now you are saying, your opinion isnt that their quality is bad, but that the entire style of animation is. kinda talking yourself into circles.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 23:18    Post subject:
Just zapped through the 720p BluRay Cap. it does look very good, worlds better than the xvid of course
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 23:23    Post subject:
awesome, it finally got cracked i see.. thanks
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membre999




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008 23:57    Post subject:
nah, it's not cracked, it's "just" a hdmi capture, just like die hard 4 and others
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008 19:05    Post subject:
membre999 wrote:
nah, it's not cracked, it's "just" a hdmi capture, just like die hard 4 and others


a what?
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008 20:00    Post subject:
Whirlwind wrote:
membre999 wrote:
nah, it's not cracked, it's "just" a hdmi capture, just like die hard 4 and others


a what?

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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008 20:07    Post subject:
I downloaded this last night, looks awesome. hard to believe it is the same show on TV.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 11:03    Post subject:
it looks stunning on my HD projector


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 14:59    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Whirlwind wrote:
membre999 wrote:
nah, it's not cracked, it's "just" a hdmi capture, just like die hard 4 and others


a what?

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I'm old and can't figure out this new technology these young whippersnappers think up in their parent's basement. My technical level qualifies me to use an etch-a-sketch and little more.

So, elaborate?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008 18:29    Post subject:
like a video capture, only over hdmi and not coax / scart etc, i believe.


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 22:28    Post subject:
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I'm old and can't figure out this new technology these young whippersnappers think up in their parent's basement. My technical level qualifies me to use an etch-a-sketch and little more.

So, elaborate?

Yeah, I'm sorry, I mistook you for someone else, who I tough I argued with on some HD stuff.

HDMI is a (relatively) new digital connection interface (like DVI) for audio/video signals. For the boring technical stuff you can read in the Wikipedia article.

Now this dude, AdBear, has found some way to record HDMI signals using some card. He currently can only record 720p and 1080i, but the latter produces bad frame-rates.

Again, sorry!
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 22:49    Post subject:
fyi, there's another hd-release of the movie:

2007-12-02 The.Simpsons.Movie.2007.MULTi.COMPLETE.BLURAY-DAW

this contains a huge image which can be mounted using deamon-tools (with udf 2.5 drivers) and afterwards be played back with powerdvd 3319a. it works due to bad bd+implementation in the first bunch of bd+ titles. the image contains the bd+ protection but has aacs removed. transcoding is still impossible though...
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 23:17    Post subject:
korgoth3 wrote:

your opinion is wrong. its not a cheaply made movie, the animation is not all 2d like you said in a previous post. a lot of the movie is actually animated in 3d. So to say its your opinion that they should have spent more on the animation instead of making it 2d, is not only wrong, its just ignorant.


This just caught my eye.. Opinions can´t be wrong, thats why they are opinions, not facts. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 23:31    Post subject:
danielsan wrote:
this contains a huge image which can be mounted using deamon-tools (with udf 2.5 drivers) and afterwards be played back with powerdvd 3319a. it works due to bad bd+implementation in the first bunch of bd+ titles. the image contains the bd+ protection but has aacs removed. transcoding is still impossible though...

All BD+ titles can be played using PowerDVD. The problem is, it is still not possible to demux the video.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 23:59    Post subject:
I don't really care how they do it. The 720p rip of Sunshine (BD+ as well) looks fucking amazing and is only DVD5 ... so captures are fine by me Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 00:02    Post subject:
Rescue Dawn is also great.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 00:13    Post subject:
yeah, that one looks good as well. I've DLed it, just haven't watched more than the sample (saw it back at the Toronto film fest in Sept 2006).

Seriously, if that is the extent of BD+ and we can still get quality rips, then I'm happy to say that the great Satan know as Sony has failed miserably. I think we can all rejoice in that! Razz


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