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Radamez




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 21:55    Post subject:
Played the game up to Jerusalem where, like everyone else, it crashes - hope there's a fix/new release soon Smile But anyway, I've found the game pretty enjoyable so far. All the negative comments I've seen floating around had me reluctant to even try it but I'm glad I did, the combat is very satisfying and leaping around from building to building doesn't seem to be getting old. The side missions on the other hand are very repetitive, but they are of course optional.

This said I think the game (or what I've seen of it) could have been a lot more, there's little variation in how you approach/take out your objective and thus the end result is much less rewarding than it is in Hitman for example, and the atmospheric and immersive setting just begs to have more made of it with more RPG elements (thinking 'Gothic') as opposed to GTA-esque ones. Nevertheless it's still a very good game if you take it for what it is.
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janski




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:07    Post subject: Crashes? Maybe it is protection!
Found this on a forum from a torrentsite.

One thing I did notice is the "Instalsheild" is actually "Demosheild" possibly proving it's not a final retail release.

It's demoshield in actual releases aswell where install shields are made by same company.

Quote:
Someone on IZONews posted that the release is obviously fucked. Either that, or the game needs a patch. The .forge file for Jerusalem seems to have a garbled header (if you compare that to other .forge files).

EDIT: Yeah, I just checked with a hex editor... all other .forge files start with SCIMITAR or something readable. The Jerusalem file seems to be complete garbage."

Many protections use scrambled files/parts of files are scrambled.

But if nobody actually has gone past that one particular spot,most likely the realease is either not working like it should or is a test release.


Maybe this is a explanation for the crashes?
gr. Exclamation
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DJSatane




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:22    Post subject:
Current Procyon and Reloaded releases should be NUKED already, I don't know who decides this but when a game is released and its not labeled "beta" or "preview" even though that's what this is then what is the scene doing?

This release has 0kb manuals for all other languages after installing even though files are there and links. Further, jerusalem level is missing in this release. cough hello NUKE? This is not retail thanks.
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Pey




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Location: Argentina
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:23    Post subject:
For the ones with vista x64 and nvidia cards (mine is a 8800gtx), which driver are u using?
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Schumi2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:29    Post subject:
I find it wierd that when you walk an enemy doesn't do a thing, and then the other time they all go after u ?
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frenegond




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:32    Post subject:
DJSatane wrote:
Current Procyon and Reloaded releases should be NUKED already, I don't know who decides this but when a game is released and its not labeled "beta" or "preview" even though that's what this is then what is the scene doing?

This release has 0kb manuals for all other languages after installing even though files are there and links. Further, jerusalem level is missing in this release. cough hello NUKE? This is not retail thanks.


exactly this is the only question that come to my mind right now : why the hell is it still on the first page of nforce as legit release Confused
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Ace170780




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:33    Post subject:
Because it works just not for most of you guys Smile) haha
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Bart1983




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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:34    Post subject:
I want to see my FPS but with fraps i can't see it very good because the the pervious FPS is getting in the background. This is because the black line doesn't change. Has anyone found a sollution to see the fps?
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SMX




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 22:35    Post subject:
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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:03    Post subject:
just took a ride into while jerusalem in the far view..and boom..my turn to get the crash..ha well...i hope like you guys that save will work with the fixed version.

in the mean time..i can complete the missions in the realety..jerusalem is not so far from me;)
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Pey




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Location: Argentina
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:05    Post subject:
My system crashes -screen goes black- with 174.16 and 176.20 (vistax64), and with 174.16 it ran perfectly on xp32.
Im going to try 174.12 now, otherwise ill go back to xp32.

Wasnt this game supposed to run better with dx10? cause i dont see any remarkable diference in performance... maybe retail will? lol

Anyway... game looks great.



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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:09    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
My system crashes -screen goes black- with 174.16 and 176.20 (vistax64), and with 174.16 it ran perfectly on xp32.
Im going to try 174.12 now, otherwise ill go back to xp32.

Wasnt this game supposed to run better with dx10? cause i dont see any remarkable diference in performance... maybe retail will? lol


Using the D3D10 render path usually indicates more intesive shaders added in, thus causing a degradation in performance, and a slight increase in the accuracy of visuals. It does not make performance better.

That said, as with every other DX10 capable game on the market (Besides LOTRO) using the D3D10 executable gives a massive performance hit while offering little in terms of visual enhancement.
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cykbryk




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:16    Post subject:
Anyone else's game crashes every 30 to 40 minutes? ANy idea how ho ix this?

PS
Visat 32bit, DX10, 8800GT.
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Tiraspol




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:20    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
My system crashes -screen goes black- with 174.16 and 176.20 (vistax64), and with 174.16 it ran perfectly on xp32.
Im going to try 174.12 now, otherwise ill go back to xp32.



Hey, how can you tell which version of Drivers you are using right now? I want to update but not sure if I already have the latest ones? Any way to tell?
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hwk




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:21    Post subject:
ehmm cykbryk

read the 2000 posts before?
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:26    Post subject:
cykbryk wrote:
Anyone else's game crashes every 30 to 40 minutes? ANy idea how ho ix this?

PS
Visat 32bit, DX10, 8800GT.


Holy Fucking Shit.

You sir. I applaud you. Not because you asked a remarkably stupid question, but because your avatar fucking rules.

Mods Make this person an honory VIP. His avatar fucking rules.

It's the character from that clay-animation PC game that came out a million years ago. I neverhood I think it was.
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redone_26




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:27    Post subject:
i got the game working properly

i have no probs in the game i am out of jeruzalem horse riding now:D. alsmost in the second city. i'm using win xp x64 (latest drivers) using RLD release. i cracked both of the .exes and run the dx9 .exe:p no probs for me. got 3 lookout posts and around 17 flags *maybe i missed some) played it for 4 hours now
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Necros




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:27    Post subject:
Schumi2003 wrote:
I find it wierd that when you walk an enemy doesn't do a thing, and then the other time they all go after u ?

If you go slowly, you are not suspicious but if you are running around/are where you shouldn't be, then you will raise some eyebrows. And then guards will get angry and there will be blood and death after that. Very Happy
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madmax17




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Location: Croatia
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:29    Post subject:
The amount of bitching on this topic would bring Chuck Norris down to tears, jesus lighten up and wait for a new release or just wait.

Great game, definitely worth buying I won't mind the repetitiveness because it's fun to just run and jump and to stuff, graphics are great and well optimized, even the sci-fi part isn't corny as some people would led you to believe, seems realistic enough to me.

I fiddled with the ini file because I wanted to improve the graphics some more and now I can't get back into the game, I just see a white screen instead of the menu, my greed got the better of me.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:30    Post subject:
redone_26 wrote:
i got the game working properly

i have no probs in the game i am out of jeruzalem horse riding now:D. alsmost in the second city. i'm using win xp x64 (latest drivers) using RLD release. i cracked both of the .exes and run the dx9 .exe:p no probs for me. got 3 lookout posts and around 17 flags *maybe i missed some) played it for 4 hours now


You are such a cool Ubar lewts hax0r. You are an ubAr .exes hax0r.



Your actually a fucking idiot.
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D34Dite




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Location: Norn Iron, UK
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:30    Post subject:
tbh this HAS to be have been a deliberate leak, i know ubisoft are wankers an all but to retail a game that crashes like this (more times than an amstrad) just means if the real retail is like this that ubisoft have taken over EAs position of releasing shite and not giving a flying fuck ....incidently before the n00bs with 2-30 posts start to try an make themselves look witty, i HAVE this game preordered from game.co.uk....


when there is no more room in hell, the D34D will walk the earth
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Pey




Posts: 5597
Location: Argentina
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:31    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Pey wrote:
My system crashes -screen goes black- with 174.16 and 176.20 (vistax64), and with 174.16 it ran perfectly on xp32.
Im going to try 174.12 now, otherwise ill go back to xp32.

Wasnt this game supposed to run better with dx10? cause i dont see any remarkable diference in performance... maybe retail will? lol


Using the D3D10 render path usually indicates more intesive shaders added in, thus causing a degradation in performance, and a slight increase in the accuracy of visuals. It does not make performance better.

That said, as with every other DX10 capable game on the market (Besides LOTRO) using the D3D10 executable gives a massive performance hit while offering little in terms of visual enhancement.


Code:
PCGH: When porting for the PC have you thought about integrating support for DirectX 10 into the engine? Will there be a version of Assassin's Creed that will utilize the new Vista API?

Charles Beauchemin: Yes, Assassin's Creed supports DX10 as well as DX9.

PCGH: What are the technical advantages of that API?

Charles Beauchemin: DirectX 10 enables us to make fewer calls to the API to perform the same actions. Therefore, it will be possible for the drivers to make optimizations making the game faster without any change to the game engine. Since most of the DX10 drivers are still young, we can expect a lot of gain to come from the optimization of these drivers.

PCGH: Do you use advanced features of Direct X 10/Shader Model 4 like Geometry Shader, Virtual Texture Management etc.? Can you please give examples how they are utilized? In what way do these features improve or simplify the rendering process?

Charles Beauchemin: No. Most of the porting to DX10 involves optimizations of the existing calls, without any new content.

PCGH: Will the DX 10 visualization differ substantially from the graphics that are rendered with DX 9 hardware? What are the visuals that can only be rendered with shader model 4 hardware? Can you supply us with a visual proof via screenshot too?

Charles Beauchemin: No new content has been added to the DX10 version.

PCGH: How much of a performance hit will the improved optics of DX 10 incur? With all details maxed out is a typical first gen DX 10 card already running at its limits?

Charles Beauchemin: No performance hit occurs, since no improved optics are implemented. However, when running on Vista, DirectX 10 version speed will be much faster than its DirectX 9 counterpart (also running on Vista)


Tiraspol wrote:
Pey wrote:
My system crashes -screen goes black- with 174.16 and 176.20 (vistax64), and with 174.16 it ran perfectly on xp32.
Im going to try 174.12 now, otherwise ill go back to xp32.



Hey, how can you tell which version of Drivers you are using right now? I want to update but not sure if I already have the latest ones? Any way to tell?




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DV2




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:34    Post subject:
Guess i'll wait for final release...crashed me for the 2nd time when i am in the big first town...(kinda long horse riding btw)..

If final release keeps crashin...UBISOFT will've screwed up this game we all awaited..


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Necros




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:36    Post subject:
D34Dite wrote:
tbh this HAS to be have been a deliberate leak, i know ubisoft are wankers an all but to retail a game that crashes like this (more times than an amstrad) just means if the real retail is like this that ubisoft have taken over EAs position of releasing shite and not giving a flying fuck ...

Well, they've been like that for some time now. Sad And maybe they just want to fit in with EA, because it looks like they will buy Ubi too.
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tiedie




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Location: Florida
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:37    Post subject:
was on wrong page...scratch that


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YSP




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:37    Post subject:
1. Does the game work?

YES. The game works. It crashes around 1st, 2nd levels. But after you get back into it from your saved location it is fine.

2. Does it crash right on Jerusalem?

YES. Right before you enter Jerusalem, on horse, foot, anything, it crashes to the desktop, no matter what you do.

3. Is there a Crack Fix out that fixes it yet?

NO. There is no Official 100% guaranteed working fix yet to this. It should be out soon if they find the problem.

4. There are many crackfix’s right now….Whats up?

Those are all the same exact Reloaded Fixed EXE Files. Eaither that, or they are all FAKE. There is currently NO WAY of getting into Jerusalem as of this moment.

5. Is the game awesome?

Yeah, its not too bad.

Worth the DL?

Definitely, if it did not crash.

THIS IS NOT A RETAIL VERSION, THIS IS A PRE-GOLD VERSION

“Not only the header of DataPC_Jerusalem.forge is missing the whole file seems to be completely random data. In the other .forge files you can see readabel text and some parts are only zeros, in DataPC_Jerusalem.forge there is nothing like that. So it won’t work with any crackfix etc. We need a new DataPC_Jerusalem.forge.”

” To those who say this is Press Copy, you are fu(ktards.

When Procyon got the source, 1 render file was obviously corrupt or became corrupted. The same corrupt file was supplied by Procyon to Reloaded. Either no group noticed the corruption or they let it go out with the bug, thinking they’d rels early for points and then be able to fix from resupply.

Problem is, the corrupt file is also having the effect of making the game unstable. And no resupply has yet arrived.

You can bet your bo11ocks that Vitality wont issue a crackfix, cos there is nothing to be fixed.

What will happen is a proper will come of size around 1GB which will be the scimitar.Jerusalem.forge replacement and possibly another corrupt file.

In meantime, you can collect flags. “
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Tiraspol




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:41    Post subject:
redone_26 wrote:
i got the game working properly

i have no probs in the game i am out of jeruzalem horse riding now:D. alsmost in the second city. i'm using win xp x64 (latest drivers) using RLD release. i cracked both of the .exes and run the dx9 .exe:p no probs for me. got 3 lookout posts and around 17 flags *maybe i missed some) played it for 4 hours now


Unless you can prove it, ur just full of shit. Post some pics of it then.

--EDIT--

Actually, fuck the pics. I KNOW your full of shit.

kthxbai.
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tiedie




Posts: 680
Location: Florida
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:42    Post subject:
hes full of shit obviously since the EXE's are not the problem, as stated several times the Jerusalem file is corrupted
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Dunge




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Location: Québec
PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:43    Post subject:
Haha fake retail that's funny. I wanna know two things:

1. Game was ultra smooth since the beginning and I was happy until I left the first "town" to get in the "kingdom" (place with horse). FPS dropped like by half. What is the first thing I should try to lower to keep good graphics and gaining FPS.... shadows?

2. Is there any way to map the LT/RT button from a 360gamepad to the run/target action in game? They seem to need a "button" and not a "axis", but on the real 360 it was these button who were used.

Didn't try to enter jerusalem yet but I guess I won't bother..
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PumpAction
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 23:45    Post subject:
You summed it very well up. It's a real pitty, but hey, it's still 1 month to release. As you can see on the imagefile, all manuals except the english one are missing too. This is deffinatly not retail.

Just wait and fight against some crusaders.
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