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 Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 01:33 Post subject: 24 worth watching? |
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Hey guys. I've finished Dexter season 2, Heroes season 3 isn't anywhere near, neither is Dr. House. Lost Season 4 is great, but waiting one week for one episode sucks badly.
I need something new to watch. Tried Prisonbreak, but stopped at second season, because I lost interest (way to flat and absurd). Then tried 4400. The main idea was ok, but the storys had no depth, no sense, no soul and it was a low budget production ( I mean, each and every nightscene was taken at daylight and painted dark blue with aftereffects  )
I heard that 24 is pretty good. I haven't watched 1 episode till now. Should I start with it?
Sopranos is said to be good too, but they are at season 9 if I'm not wrong informed.. beh.
If both suck, I will continue CSI (the standard one, I think Las Vegas) from season 2.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 01:43 Post subject: |
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24.....hmmm, not one of the best i've seen, the main concept is good, but S1 has a rather ordinary story, and the season has many ups and downs.
Why not Jericho, Scrubs, The Unit, Kyle XY, The Wire, Stargate, Sleeper Cell, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, etc? There's so many...
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 04:52 Post subject: |
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I enjoyed 24. It does get old but the first 3 seasons are pretty good.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 04:58 Post subject: |
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Go for it. 24 is my favorite show. If you get into it, it's addicting as hell. Also Sopranos is 6 seasons not 9. Well season 6 is split in 2 parts.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 06:40 Post subject: |
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nop. i've watched the first 16 episodes of season 1 till i realized it's so b000ring.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 07:18 Post subject: |
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you're boring
anyway yeah first 3 seasons = great
4-5 = ok
6 = lol
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 10:40 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 11:15 Post subject: |
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| Druqsr wrote: | | THE WIRE !!!!!!!! |
+1
All seasons available on torrentz and there is a new season airing once a week.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 11:56 Post subject: |
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I've only seen the first three seasons of 24, and they are awesome, well recomended. Especially season one, it's great.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 13:00 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 13:31 Post subject: |
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Thanks I'll give it a try. But I'm now busy watching Dark City. Everybody said it's good and I've never had time to watch it.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2008 18:38 Post subject: |
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S5 was amazing, as were S1-S3. S4 was aight, nothing special. S6 was a joke.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Mar 2008 14:25 Post subject: |
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i'd love to watch these from the beginning in HD but I've left it too late and can't find 720p versions of them anywhere
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Mar 2008 16:26 Post subject: |
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HD? The Shield is filmed as low tech as possible, even has 4:3 ratio. About 24, well, you can find S5 and S6 in HD no problem, but that's it. Back in 2004, HD wasn't that popular so no one capped in HD.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Mar 2008 20:04 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 24 is a nice show though, im watching it from the beginning once again (im at the start of season 5). Although Jack Bauer should be played by the dude who was playing Chase Edmunds. Kiefer Sutherland ain't THAT good and sporty |
he's supposed to be a family man not some young guy
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Mar 2008 20:51 Post subject: |
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Why? Some series are better that way in artistic sense, claustrophobic in a way. That's why The Shield in 16:9 in pal dvds suck.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Mar 2008 21:09 Post subject: |
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because I have a 16:9 tv, that's why 
edit: found a more complete answer ...
| Quote: | The Wire is shot entirely with Panavision cameras. David Insley let us know that, "These later episodes of the show are shot Super 35, 3-perf, and that saves a lot of money because that means we're shooting about three quarters of the film we used to. But we're only using the 4 x 3 part, so we're losing the edges of the 16x 9, but it's less than we were using when it was 4-perf, so (the image is) somewhere between a Super 16 image and a standard 35 (mm) image."
And perhaps the final contrast to the rest of high-end episodic television, The Wire for each of its five seasons has been produced in good old fashioned 4 x 3 standard definition. DP Dave Insley recalled, "The reason the show has stayed 4x3 is because David Simon thinks that 4x3 feels more like real life and real television and not like a movie. The show's never been HD, even 4x3 HD and that (SD) is how it is on the DVDs. There is no 16x9 version anywhere." As a viewer with an HD set I will point out that like much of SD television that makes its way to HD channels, it appears that HBO utilizes state-of-the-art line doubling technology. It may still be standard definition, but line doubled it looks considerably better on a high definition set than it would on a standard definition set.
Insley explained, "When the show started 2001 / 2002 they framed it for 16 x 9 as a way of future-proofing. Then a couple of seasons ago, right before Season 4 began shooting, there was a big discussion about it and after much discussion -- David, Nina, Joe Chappelle, the Producers, the DPs -- and we discussed what should be the style of the show. David made the decision that we would stay with 4x3. The DPs pretty much defined the look to be what it is now. And it's been consistent for the past two seasons." |
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/griffin_nick/hbo_the_wire.php
so seems like it was a purely artistic direction at the beginning, and later it was a desire to maintain a consistent look between the seasons...
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | because I have a 16:9 tv, that's why |
You know what I think about that, right?
If director wants you to see it in 4:3, you see it in 4:3. No need to cut stuff out of the picture just so you could have full picture ( ).
Those were the exact reactions I got when I got a widescreen monitor. "Whaaat? The movie doesn't fill the entire screen? But isn't it widescreen? Couldn't they make it to fit? Just cut some of the sides?" (the movie was 2.35:1)  |
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If director shoots it that way, then this is how you should be seeing it. It's just side effect that the camera shoots in wide format. Haven't you seen making of documentaries where they put tape on the monitor to only see how it comes out in 4:3?
Besides, why are movies so much different than tv shows? You watch both as intended.
It's not for nothing that there was such an uproar when Francis Ford Coppola "butchered" (words of fanbois) the video of Apocalypse Now, by trimming to fit full 16:9 screens.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Mar 2008 23:24 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | If director shoots it that way, then this is how you should be seeing it. It's just side effect that the camera shoots in wide format. Haven't you seen making of documentaries where they put tape on the monitor to only see how it comes out in 4:3?
Besides, why are movies so much different than tv shows? You watch both as intended.
It's not for nothing that there was such an uproar when Francis Ford Coppola "butchered" (words of fanbois) the video of Apocalypse Now, by trimming to fit full 16:9 screens. |
I don't have a problem that this is how I am supposed to see the wire (including the decision to produce it in SD only). Too bad this includes a blurry image with barely any detail in the picture. There are also a ton of wide shots that would look a shitload better in wide res with HD level details as well.
So while I agree that it shouldn't be butchered in its present form, it should have never been SD 4:3 to begin with ... but I bet that decision would have been different if the show started production a few years later than it did...
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Mar 2008 01:14 Post subject: |
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why don't they just shoot it in black and white and have no soundtrack and a bloke playing piano in your front room to convey emotion. Sounds like a load of art school wanky toss to me. The future is HD, do some work with filters, cuts and the like to convey your message. crackpots
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Mar 2008 08:34 Post subject: |
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I agree with wawrzul on this one. I absolutely love The Wire and like The Shield because of the different but low-key camera work these shows employ. If they were shot in 16:19 and/or HD, to me, they would've lost that realistic, gritty edge they have. What makes them great is their realism, story, and character development. In the case of The Wire it is a notch higher, plus it has social, political, etc commentaries. Point being is HD does not make up a good TV-series or a movie. And as much as I do enjoy a few movies in HD, I stlil watch most movies in SD as well as television series.
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So season 4 is perfekt and thats the reason why I like Heroes so much.
