[XBOX] Microsoft cuts Xbox 360 prices in Europe
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 15:54    Post subject: [XBOX] Microsoft cuts Xbox 360 prices in Europe
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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) cut the prices of its Xbox 360 video game console in Europe by up to 28 percent on Monday to try to spur sales in a key battleground in the fast-growing industry.

The 80-euro decrease results in cuts of 18 percent to 28 percent across the three Xbox 360 models, bringing the cheapest Arcade version to 200 euros ($307) and the high-end Elite to 370 euros ($568).

Prices reductions in Britain range from 20 pounds to 50 pounds.

"Xbox 360 is now mass market in Europe," Chris Lewis, vice president of Microsoft's interactive entertainment business in Europe, said in a statement.

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I guess they are gearing up to the expected PS3 storm...which I think will never happen.


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 17:16    Post subject:
well guy in one big shop that i know says for every 10 360 they sell 1 ps3 Razz

so i think if $ony will get desperate they might as well drop prices too

even if it will till someone hack that black box no way i'm buying it, coz buying games is not an option
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 17:18    Post subject:
Well, on the long run, the PS3 has better hardware to handle HD games, for now its a bit 50/50. When games starts supporting full 1080p, thats when the X360 will fall cause he cant handle it. And since HDDVD movies are dead, poeple will buy a PS3 sicne you can play games and watch movies without having to buy another piece of hardware. PS3 is not hacked yet and i dont own a HDTV so i have no use for a PS3 since most exclusive titles for PS3 or not very good for now
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 17:27    Post subject:
its about the games at the end of the day. whoevers line up is more exciting will win.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 17:31    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
And since HDDVD movies are dead, poeple will buy a PS3 sicne you can play games and watch movies without having to buy another piece of hardware.
On that note
360+Blue-Ray Will Happen
In one way or another.

Now I wonder...the lowered price on the standard console...Blue-Ray support on the horizon...Could it simply be that we are soon to see a new "360 Blue" at a tag price 25% on top of the "standard"...pretty plausible, or? Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 17:43    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
Well, on the long run, the PS3 has better hardware to handle HD games, for now its a bit 50/50. When games starts supporting full 1080p, thats when the X360 will fall cause he cant handle it. And since HDDVD movies are dead, poeple will buy a PS3 sicne you can play games and watch movies without having to buy another piece of hardware. PS3 is not hacked yet and i dont own a HDTV so i have no use for a PS3 since most exclusive titles for PS3 or not very good for now


80% of the ppl in eu own 720p so they couldn't care less about 1080p
so i doubt 360 will fall just coz of that
and games better optimized for it plus all consoles come with hdmi and new chips this days

besides most of the ppl always go for cheaper hw like 360/wii, no point in getting ps2 coz price tag practically same

cheapest ps3 is still 350e
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 17:55    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
On that note
360+Blue-Ray Will Happen
In one way or another.


At what cost??, poeple wont buy another external drive for 250$+ when the PS3 comes with it.

Mortibus wrote:


80% of the ppl in eu own 720p so they couldn't care less about 1080p
so i doubt 360 will fall just coz of that
and games better optimized for it plus all consoles come with hdmi and new chips this days


Thats exactly why i said "in the long run", most poeple now dont care till real full 1080p HD games comes out. Poeple will buy new TVs, we always do, but the X360 wont be able to follow the new HD technology cause its already capped
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 18:07    Post subject:
They did not say external now did they. They said "in one way or another" could also be with a Blue-Ray drive built in like the PS3. Now i wonder if Sony would ever allow that


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 18:19    Post subject:
im pretty glad they've dropped the price. i might just be tempted to buy a second core IF they ban my 360... which they will.

it should push down the prices of second hand cores too Very Happy I wouldn't spend over £100 now!


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 18:51    Post subject:
To be fair the one of the biggest reasons certainly for me why I bought my 360 and probably for loads and loads of people who bought theirs (After the initial release craze of course)
is because you can play copied games on it. Im sure as soon as you can on the PS3 (especially if you can play games from hdd) people will buy loads, I know I will. Granted theres not many decent game son the PS3 , but in my opinion there isnt many great games on the 360. Just great looking ones and more of em.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008 18:56    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
im pretty glad they've dropped the price. i might just be tempted to buy a second core IF they ban my 360... which they will.

it should push down the prices of second hand cores too Very Happy I wouldn't spend over £100 now!


tastytasty options thats a nice idea horror, although trying to get a second hand on ebay gotta be careful of getting a banned one.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 00:05    Post subject:
As long as they keep coming games for the 360 as they are, I´m well served Smile
I don´t like MGS series, final fantasy, or GT. Hum... I like GT, but just for taking a race now and then, and for that ,Forza will do the job perfectly.
Don´t see in the horizon any game that would make me go for the PS3!
But the price drop is more than welcome Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 00:45    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
Well, on the long run, the PS3 has better hardware to handle HD games, for now its a bit 50/50. When games starts supporting full 1080p, thats when the X360 will fall cause he cant handle it.


What makes you think that the PS3 will handle 1080p better than the X360?
I'd first like to see PS3 games to run on 720p with a solid frame rate, antialiasing and high dynamic range rendering, like their X360 counterparts do. There's no reson to talk about 1080p while the PS3 still struggles at 720p.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 01:04    Post subject:
Unless something drastic happens which allows the PS3 to totally outclass 360 I can't see it ever being more successful. It'll probably play out exactly as it did in the last generation except with the sony/microsoft roles reversed.

All the hype about the PS3 hardware has already been proven false, I can't believe people are naive enough to still believe PS3 developers are suddenly going to pull massively superior games out their arse.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 02:20    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
All the hype about the PS3 hardware has already been proven false, I can't believe people are naive enough to still believe PS3 developers are suddenly going to pull massively superior games out their arse.


this time you are wrong , if they would DO A PS3 and ONLY for a PS3 title game then it would out perform any xbox360 game (Uncharted), but as we know the market the PS3 gets half assed xbox360 ports ,

The PC and PS3 suffers from a cancer named XBOX360 , but hey MS now losses they grip after they must pay for Vista fuck ups and HD-DVD investments , they only lowered the price because of that , and hey they will still get the big $$ from live , more xbox idiots more moneyz Rolling Eyes

in the end PS3 wins , because its now the best multi-functional OS Linux work station (you can even install winXP on it) that plays B-ray movies and Games
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 02:42    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
All the hype about the PS3 hardware has already been proven false, I can't believe people are naive enough to still believe PS3 developers are suddenly going to pull massively superior games out their arse.


this time you are wrong , if they would DO A PS3 and ONLY for a PS3 title game then it would out perform any xbox360 game (Uncharted), but as we know the market the PS3 gets half assed xbox360 ports ,

The PC and PS3 suffers from a cancer named XBOX360 , but hey MS now losses they grip after they must pay for Vista fuck ups and HD-DVD investments , they only lowered the price because of that , and hey they will still get the big $$ from live , more xbox idiots more moneyz Rolling Eyes

in the end PS3 wins , because its now the best multi-functional OS Linux work station (you can even install winXP on it) that plays B-ray movies and Games


now that's just stupid, half assed 360 ports is only dev's fault and not 360

besides best multifunctional OS work station IS and always will be PC, u might knock that in your thick scull, i don't think ps3 can play bd-rips in .mkv format now is it and i aint gonna run and buy bd if i can get it for free in same ripped quality

it stinks like fanboi here, no wonder, someone probably trying to justify why they paid 400 euro for movie player Razz

it's been 3 years since 360 launch, reason for the price drop is so someone who couldn't get it before can get it now, same with pc hw, 2 yo 8800gts costed like 600+e now u can get 8800GT which is as good for 180e

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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 03:16    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:


this time you are wrong , if they would DO A PS3 and ONLY for a PS3 title game then it would out perform any xbox360 game (Uncharted), but as we know the market the PS3 gets half assed xbox360 ports ,


Uncharted is a good game but theres nothing particularly special about it. If thats the game that you use to reference the PS3's power then it actually proves what I already stated, the PS3 hardware was overhyped.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 03:35    Post subject:
i think uncharted could be done on the xbox360 easily.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 03:50    Post subject:
Uncharted isn't that good or original imo.....

Thing that makes the PS3 interesting imo is that even though the 360 has a ton of killer apps that probably can compete with the great exclusives Sony has on the horizon......

The one thing is though, they are all old now.....And gamers are fickle motherfuckers.....So when GT etc gets released there won't be an answer on the 360, so all the momentum within the industry like 'zomg wow 99% best game ever' will be for games on the PS3.......

Still, I'm thinking of getting a new legit 360 because more users means the games depreciate much faster....Halo 3 is a tenner used on Amazon ffs.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 04:40    Post subject:
wow looks like we got some "thick skulls" here ,just found two xbox fanboyz haha , one takes from the angle of MKV and the PC RULE and internetz has free shit, the other wants to attack me by the angle of Unchaterd that was taken here as a EXAMPLE of a PS3 only game , that when a game is only developed for only one platform it uses the console potential + "the PS3 hardware was overhyped".... but yeah xbox fanboyz its like speaking to a wall hahaha

and still ,the PC and PS3 will and is suffering from a cancer named XBOX360 , a system that bad it breaks for no reason ...
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 04:42    Post subject:
LanceBullet wrote:
Uncharted isn't that good or original imo.....

Thing that makes the PS3 interesting imo is that even though the 360 has a ton of killer apps that probably can compete with the great exclusives Sony has on the horizon......

The one thing is though, they are all old now.....And gamers are fickle motherfuckers.....So when GT etc gets released there won't be an answer on the 360, so all the momentum within the industry like 'zomg wow 99% best game ever' will be for games on the PS3.......

Still, I'm thinking of getting a new legit 360 because more users means the games depreciate much faster....Halo 3 is a tenner used on Amazon ffs.


Xbox360 will have new exclusives aswell... its not just standing still is it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 04:45    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
wow looks like we got some "thick skulls" here ,just found two xbox fanboyz haha , one takes from the angle of MKV and the PC RULE and internetz has free shit, the other wants to attack me by the angle of Unchaterd that was taken here as a EXAMPLE of a PS3 only game , that when a game is only developed for only one platform it uses the console potential + "the PS3 hardware was overhyped".... but yeah xbox fanboyz its like speaking to a wall hahaha

and still ,the PC and PS3 will and is suffering from a cancer named XBOX360 , a system that bad it breaks for no reason ...


well according to your post uncharted was developed for PS3 only and should have outperformed any and every xbox360 game. i dont see uncharted knocking xbox360 off its throne quite yet Rolling Eyes
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BlueSkyz wrote:


and still ,the PC and PS3 will and is suffering from a cancer named XBOX360 , a system that bad it breaks for no reason ...


He's right for that, lattest PC games were port from the X360 and they were fuckin shitty and buggy
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 04:58    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
BlueSkyz wrote:
wow looks like we got some "thick skulls" here ,just found two xbox fanboyz haha , one takes from the angle of MKV and the PC RULE and internetz has free shit, the other wants to attack me by the angle of Unchaterd that was taken here as a EXAMPLE of a PS3 only game , that when a game is only developed for only one platform it uses the console potential + "the PS3 hardware was overhyped".... but yeah xbox fanboyz its like speaking to a wall hahaha

and still ,the PC and PS3 will and is suffering from a cancer named XBOX360 , a system that bad it breaks for no reason ...


well according to your post uncharted was developed for PS3 only and should have outperformed any and every xbox360 game. i dont see uncharted knocking xbox360 off its throne quite yet Rolling Eyes

don't twist words it was written
" if they would DO A PS3 and ONLY for a PS3 title game then it would out perform any xbox360 game"
Performance means no lags , means no long loads only 2-5 sec load flash , hmm let me think to show a good example of a buggy fresh game with no specific tweaks oh yes Mass Effect , nice game but performance is horrible , remake of Bully ouch the lags+crashes+why it overheats the console processor and rrods your console like one effect is stuck in a loop and kills the performance ... but hey they are also bad examples one shows that they didn't knew U3 engine the other they made a bad port of a ps2 game to xbox ...
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 05:08    Post subject:
what do you expect? ps3 games take like 40 minutes to install before you can actually play em.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 05:13    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
wow looks like we got some "thick skulls" here ,just found two xbox fanboyz haha , one takes from the angle of MKV and the PC RULE and internetz has free shit, the other wants to attack me by the angle of Unchaterd that was taken here as a EXAMPLE of a PS3 only game , that when a game is only developed for only one platform it uses the console potential + "the PS3 hardware was overhyped".... but yeah xbox fanboyz its like speaking to a wall hahaha


it's just like Gothic 3 all over again
it was developed only for pc and it failed miserably ohh wait who's fault is that, no 360 cancer was involved so it must be dev's and publishers fault, as it is always no matter what
same i can say for Stalker
yet again u proved that u blinded by your fanboizm boy

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and still ,the PC and PS3 will and is suffering from a cancer named XBOX360 , a system that bad it breaks for no reason ...


there is one overheating, that's what happens when some rich fuks rush shit and spend very little time on cooling design
it's bad design and everyone knows that, update your cooling and u will be fine
if that's the price i have to pay for free games hell it aint big deal, after all if anyone has enough brains to built pc with decent cooling it's not that hard to add xtra fans to 360

last 360 has very small fail rate btw, if there is any it's users fault coz they shoving it into small confined spaces where there is no airfllow

p.s. whenever ps3 will be hacked and u will be able to play games from hd plus it will drop in price i'll jump into $ony wagon, no more DL's = xtra cash spared
till then i'm happy with what i have atm
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 13:10    Post subject:
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Xbox360 will have new exclusives aswell... its not just standing still is it.


With the exception of Gears of War, and the introduction of Ninja Gaiden, there won't be sequels to the games that made the console is the point I'm making, 2008/9 will pale compared to 6/7 for 360 exclusive software, it's just not possible to produce games of that quality that fast....

And I think Sonys strategy has been to weather the storm, and wait for their day in the sun with regards to AAA software....

Could be wrong, but either way I wouldn't bet on Forza 3, or Halo 4 anytime soon...
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 13:28    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
and still ,the PC and PS3 will and is suffering from a cancer named XBOX360 , a system that bad it breaks for no reason ...


Are you aware that the X360 has a more powerful GPU (Unified Shader Model, "free" antialiasing) and a superior RAM desing? Devs would need to perform wonders with the Cell to compensate for that.

It's not the X360's fault that devs are having problems with the PS3, it's the PS3 itself.

Look at a AAA multiplatform tite like Assassin's Creed. Ubisoft has put MORE RESSOURCES into the PS3 version of the game. The result is a game that never runs really smooth (playable, but not 30fps) and accasionally crashes. A patch was issued that solved the crashes, but made the framerate worse.
The X360 version runs smooth and accasionally drops slightly below 30fps and still has enough power to do antialiasing (which the PS3 version doesn't).
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 13:38    Post subject:
LanceBullet wrote:
MasterJuba wrote:


Xbox360 will have new exclusives aswell... its not just standing still is it.


With the exception of Gears of War, and the introduction of Ninja Gaiden, there won't be sequels to the games that made the console is the point I'm making, 2008/9 will pale compared to 6/7 for 360 exclusive software, it's just not possible to produce games of that quality that fast....

And I think Sonys strategy has been to weather the storm, and wait for their day in the sun with regards to AAA software....

Could be wrong, but either way I wouldn't bet on Forza 3, or Halo 4 anytime soon...


alan wake/banjo kazooie 3/fable 2/gears of war2/halo wars just to name a few.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Mar 2008 13:38    Post subject:
me7 wrote:


Are you aware that the X360 has a more powerful GPU (Unified Shader Model, "free" antialiasing) and a superior RAM desing? Devs would need to perform wonders with the Cell to compensate for that.


No offense, but this is a daft argument.....

Both machines are powerful enough to create dedicated software that looks comparably good, if they weren't Sony and MS wouldn't be paying so much for exclusivity deals left right and centre.....
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