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Mortibus

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Posted: Tue, 25th Mar 2008 23:53 Post subject:

Mutantius wrote:

Let me ask you what brand was it? And which model? Of course if we are talking Phillips and Samsung in the plasma department then I wouldnt take it as a general decision Razz

panasonic [never asked for model sorry], been bought recently also 42" 1024x768
samsung
LG and so on

most importantly is that u happy with it
that's main part Wink

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Posted: Tue, 25th Mar 2008 23:56 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Panasonic should be acceptable in performance, still its about which panel version he was using. Samsung is bad compared to the performance with plasmas, same with LG. I would advise you to go see the Kuros or the PX80, PZ80 in action. They really look astonishing and easily beat the LCDs. EDIT: Yea im very fond of it, but I just think its to bad to have those prejudices to 2008 Plasmas... "Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3

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Posted: Wed, 26th Mar 2008 00:01 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

trust me i swoop through alot of teles lcd and plasma alike before stopped at sammy 32" lcd nothing will prove me otherwise using it mainly for HD and gaming, rarely watching any usual tv

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Posted: Wed, 26th Mar 2008 01:04 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Well guess we are both satisfied in our choices lets leave it there then "Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3

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Posted: Wed, 26th Mar 2008 01:12 Post subject:

Mutantius wrote:

Well guess we are both satisfied in our choices lets leave it there then Smile

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Posted: Thu, 27th Mar 2008 16:14 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 14:36 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Well i got the tv setup and everything last night. Took me awhile to figure out how to make the pc look good on there. However, 720p rips don't look nearly as good as i thought they would. I can't imagine what standard def is going to look like. 360 looks great and PC Games look great. I am hoping i can fiddle around with the settings and get the hdrips to look better. Anybody else with 1080p have trouble with 720p video source? PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 14:46 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Mutantius that TV you got is actually horrible lol. I don't even want to imagine how bad downscaled 720p looks on that 42" 1024x768 C2D E6750 @ 3.2Ghz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 4-4-4-12, GeForce GTX 260 c216 OC 896MB, 3.2TB, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Xbox 360 Elite, PS2 Slim, Xbox

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 15:38 Post subject:

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Mutantius that TV you got is actually horrible lol. I don't even want to imagine how bad downscaled 720p looks on that 42" 1024x768

Don you know, it's not all about the resolution Laughing

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 15:40 Post subject:

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Anybody else with 1080p have trouble with 720p video source?

Why not just get 1080p rips? They are twice bigger but look much much better on 1080p.

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 16:47 Post subject:

Glottis wrote:

Mutantius that TV you got is actually horrible lol. I don't even want to imagine how bad downscaled 720p looks on that 42" 1024x768

Well considering you have never seen in action nor how it downscale the material, I take your opinion as valid as a shrimp trying to teach me how to use bicycle. Fact is both 1080p & 720p material looks amazing.

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 17:03 Post subject:

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tihkal wrote:

Anybody else with 1080p have trouble with 720p video source?

Why not just get 1080p rips? They are twice bigger but look much much better on 1080p.

Oddly enough the performance on 1080p is kinda bad on my rig although i do use vlc and not ffdshow. Also, it's huge!!! I would need to get a handful of 1tb drives.

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 17:17 Post subject:

tihkal wrote:

LeoNatan wrote:

tihkal wrote:

Anybody else with 1080p have trouble with 720p video source?

Why not just get 1080p rips? They are twice bigger but look much much better on 1080p.

Oddly enough the performance on 1080p is kinda bad on my rig although i do use vlc and not ffdshow. Also, it's huge!!! I would need to get a handful of 1tb drives.

you need to get a program with hardware acceleration, like PowerDVD to offload from your CPU to GPU ...

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 17:34 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

And god, VLC is slower than a handicapped grandpa. The ffdshow tryouts are surprisingly fast, but indeed PowerDVD can also help. You have FX60, you most certainly should not have problems playing 1080p stuff. My IMDb Ratings \| Fix NFOHump Cookies \| Hide Users / Threads \| Embedded Content (Videos/GIFs/Twitter/Reddit) \| The Derps Collection “Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.”

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 17:45 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Cyberlink.PowerDVD.v8.Beta.1422-ENGiNE That the release to try? Also, does powerdvd play .mkv without any special tricks? PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 17:49 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

You have to rename the file to .avi to get it to play (also need Haali splitter installed). There is a really good thread on this @ avsforum ... they suggest using MPC with the cyberlink codec ... MPC here: http://tibrium.neuf.fr/ asus z170-A \|\| core i5-6600K \|\| geforce gtx 970 4gb \|\| 16gb ddr4 ram \|\| win10 \|\| 1080p led samsung 27"

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 17:57 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Quote from AVSForum: I have an 8800 and you can't do H/W Accel on PowerDVD. So make sure that option is off before you play, or you'll get black screen --- I know you can now - but i have an older 8800GTS. I guess my point is, if i can't get h/w acceleration is it worth it to have powerdvd at all or should i just get ffdshow again? PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 18:05 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

if you don't want h/w acceleration I'd go for ffdshow for sure asus z170-A \|\| core i5-6600K \|\| geforce gtx 970 4gb \|\| 16gb ddr4 ram \|\| win10 \|\| 1080p led samsung 27"

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 18:54 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Nouseforaname, Is your sig old? Don't you have an 8600 now? PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 19:52 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

No, that 7900 is much much faster than an 8600, so he stayed with that. My IMDb Ratings \| Fix NFOHump Cookies \| Hide Users / Threads \| Embedded Content (Videos/GIFs/Twitter/Reddit) \| The Derps Collection “Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.”

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 19:59 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Was just wondering because if his 7900 can do H/W acceleration then my 8800 should. I was thinking it was limited to the newer 8000 series. It seems the h.264 accell started with the 8600 and every card since has had it. Including the new 8800's but i have the launch GTS. PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 21:05 Post subject:

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 21:07 Post subject:

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 21:07 Post subject:

Mortibus wrote:

nope saw them recently up close
even fiddled with settings
friend of my has one and hate it coz he can see reflections from his lamp Razz

this made me lmao tho

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lcd's also has a lamp that you can see shining on the screen, it's called the backlight which totally rapes dark scenes. Razz

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 22:01 Post subject:

tihkal wrote:

Was just wondering because if his 7900 can do H/W acceleration then my 8800 should. I was thinking it was limited to the newer 8000 series. It seems the h.264 accell started with the 8600 and every card since has had it. Including the new 8800's but i have the launch GTS.

I see an option for 'PureVideo' as well as use hardware acceleration in PowerDVD. I also have a couple 1080p rips that stutter like fuck using CPU only, so I can tell for sure it is working.

the list of supported cards is here:
http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/PureVideo_Product_Comparison.pdf

And yeah, I had an 8600GT and replaced the piece of shit with a 7900GT -- there was a really big boost in games (went from 1024x768 @medium to 1280x1024 @high in most games). I still have it sitting in the case doing nothing .. I'm fixing up a computer for my sister so I'll probably give it to her...

edit: I see the difference between the new and old cards is this:

older:
H.264 Decode Acceleration

newer:
H.264 Decode Acceleration with IDCT and CAVLC/CABAC

maybe one of the resident experts can explain just what the fuck that means Razz

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 22:05 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Cool well i think it will work for me as well then, as our cards have all the same checks on that list. Thanks for the help guys. (Leo and Nouse) PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008 22:06 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I think it basically means it automatically helps rather then needing some special software package to tell it to. PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Mon, 31st Mar 2008 16:02 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Well, I tried ffdshow + zoom player + mediaplayer classic + haali splitter/matroska splitter + cccp Each player stutterd just on a 1080p sample. VLC didn't stutter but the timeline portion of the player did not work. I am going to try power dvd + mpc tonight to see if that helps. PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD Nintendo Switch SX OS Pro / PS4 Pro 5.05 Hen/Mira / PS3 Modded / Wii Modded / 360 Pre-Wave4 mod

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Posted: Mon, 31st Mar 2008 16:27 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

wow thats a nice price. You can only get real cheap full HD 42" for that price.

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Posted: Mon, 31st Mar 2008 16:51 Post subject:

tihkal wrote:

Well,

I tried ffdshow + zoom player + mediaplayer classic + haali splitter/matroska splitter + cccp

Each player stutterd just on a 1080p sample. VLC didn't stutter but the timeline portion of the player did not work. I am going to try power dvd + mpc tonight to see if that helps.

I actually just tried that yesterday and for whatever reason MPC seems to hate the powerdvd h264 codec (doesn't even play)... maybe you should give coreavc a try (that supports h/w decoding as well)? once it is installed all you need to do is open MPC , go to options and add external filter, pick coreavc h264 from the list and then click on 'prefer'.

I have a 12 GB 1080p copy of 'The Host', went from 90%+ cpu usage (stuttering, audio nowhere close to being in sync) to playing perfectly with ~50% cpu usage.

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