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FreeDiver




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2008 18:48    Post subject: ubuntu
is there anyway I can install this without loosing/formating my computer?

Currecntly I run win xp sp2,Now I want to install this linux version,but still keep windows xp,is it possible?

and another question,I've never used linux,any preliminary things that I should be aware of?


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2008 19:08    Post subject:
Moved to correct forum.

You can install them both without any problems. Download a partitioning tool (I like Partition Magic 8, its about 2 years old but its fantastic!) .. create 2 new partitions, one for the OS with the format of EXT3 (needs to be at least 5gb, maybe larger though depending on how many apps you plan on installing).. and one that does the same job as a windows page file (SWAP format), so it should be around 1.5gb for an average system.

Ubuntu will do the partitioning for you if you want.. and it has its own partitioning tool you can use during installation, but I find this method easier!

Now just burn the latest version to a DVD and boot from it. Follow the instructions and it should pick up the partition just fine.. Just be sure to double check your not formatting the whole disk!!! If you are careful everything should be VERY easy.

As for linux, well there are thousands of things I could tell you.. Its just an OS.. Its different but not that different. ERmm.. Command line is your friend!
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FreeDiver




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2008 19:16    Post subject:
first of all,sorry for posting in the wrong forums,it was not in purpose,its just that when I always enter these forums,I automatically go to the "bitchin session" Laughing

so I basically dont need to use partition magic right? I can just download and follow the instructions... but is there any place where it will ask me if I want to keep my windows installation??

right now I have a total of 5GB of free space for installation on drive C.


thanks for the answer


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2008 19:22    Post subject:
That is correct, you do not need to use partition magic. Ubuntu will assume you want to wipe the drive though Wink.. so you need to tell it to manually configure the partitions during the installation.
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FreeDiver




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 17:34    Post subject:
it will take some time to get used to it,much more complicated from windows.
thanks for the help. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008 18:35    Post subject:
More complex = More powerful Very Happy..
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2008 17:04    Post subject:
And remember don't just copy paste cli code into terminals from forums if you don't understand what it does.
If you do that you might as well give away your ip and root password.
Linux is only as secure as you allow it to be, an ignorant user can make Linux just as insecure as windows.
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2008 17:44    Post subject:
I bet that in a week you'll almost never boot up linux. You'll actually regret the lost space and wipe the linux partitions from the face of the earth. Plz report back in a few days with your honest impressions ...
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Feb 2008 18:18    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
I bet that in a week you'll almost never boot up linux. You'll actually regret the lost space and wipe the linux partitions from the face of the earth. Plz report back in a few days with your honest impressions ...


My honest opinion - love everything about it, but I will proberbly still be using xp/vista most cos im more used to doing so Smile


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Feb 2008 06:11    Post subject:
Good thing, we have Mac OS X. FreeBSD & Linux systems "merged" together and polished to such a state to became platform. Very Happy Razz Rolling Eyes Wink
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FreeDiver




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Feb 2008 23:59    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
I bet that in a week you'll almost never boot up linux. You'll actually regret the lost space and wipe the linux partitions from the face of the earth. Plz report back in a few days with your honest impressions ...


actually, I think im in love with it... amazing OS!!
not that I wont delete it,but I started to read a book "wiley ubuntu linux bible"
Cool
im not a gamer, so I dont really need windows,for now.
and it would be better for me to get some experience in linux


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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008 00:34    Post subject:
This might help -- there are better guides but i'm on my way out the door.

http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/breezyinstall.html#installonoldhdd


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highstuff




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Mar 2008 21:02    Post subject:
you could also put it on a usb stick Very Happy and select in bios boot from usb.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Mar 2008 21:50    Post subject:
Why dont you just use a virtual machine?
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Mar 2008 23:03    Post subject:
g0tgot wrote:
Why dont you just use a virtual machine?


Because that doesn't use the systems full resources... I dont see the need to list anymore reasons..
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Mar 2008 23:16    Post subject:
It does when using C2D (or equivalent AMD CPUs). The virtualization technologies in those CPUs allow for maximum resource usage under VMs.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Mar 2008 23:24    Post subject:
Full hardware accessibility?
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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Mar 2008 00:19    Post subject:
I meant full CPU utilization without too much layers in between.
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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Mar 2008 00:31    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
I meant full CPU utilization without too much layers in between.


That's not a computers full resources now is it? To run a desktop (on a desktop machine) in a VM is pointless for anything other than system testing.
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