[XBOX360] Grand Theft Auto IV [R] ***RELEASE DISCUSSION***
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oddWord




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 17:23    Post subject: Ubuntu
I'm rocking ubuntu. I just run a command in terminal to burn it. So easy.

growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -use-the-force-luke=break:1913760 -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/cdrom=gtaiv.iso

for some reason it calls my lg dual layer burner cdrom

not sure why

everyone should install ubuntu or some other linux distro.
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 17:23    Post subject:
uhh wah huh... ahh look out!... ah hunka hunka burning love.....

am i remembering bad acid trips or wasn't that what those hare krishna's chanted in the first gta games?
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oddWord




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 17:26    Post subject: monks
Someone said the Monks are back in this one. Has that been confirmed to be true? Cause man if it is I'm going to start a Crusade against them!
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kostyan5




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 17:40    Post subject:
killabyte wrote:
you can burn it with imgburn. i haven't used clonecd in some time but i'm sure you more than likely could. i have only used imgburn to burn 360 back ups though and it works fine.


Do I need to change any of the settings (e.g. layer break, book type)?
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 17:48    Post subject:
shouldn't have to as long as you are using +DL's.

if you wanted to be fancy you could change the write mode from auto to dvd in case of some bitsetting problem or some such mess i read about. if you don't plan on trying it online just burn the hell out of it and dont worry about that stuff.
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tw1st




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 17:52    Post subject:
Guys quick question, I want to get my 360 modded today for gta4 ( im still buying it ). I found someone in my area who does it for $60 and takes around 30 minutes to do.

I asked this person, if there is any modchip installation, and she said no there isnt, it is just a firmware downgrade that allows you to play backups.

Now my question, is this person full of shit? Can a simple firmware downgrade/upgrade allow me to play backedup games and regular games, as well as useing xbox live, or will i need an actual modchip to run backups?
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 17:55    Post subject:
yup it's pretty much that simple as long as you have a box with a samsung or a hitachi drive. if you aren't scared of getting your hands dirty and little cut up and have a hitachi i would recommend doing it yourself. the samsung drives can get a little complicated but to me it didn't get any easier than doing a hitachi drive.

if you're new to it though i would definitely read up on playing back ups on live. as far as anyone can tell no one has been banned just for having modded firmware but no one knows that for 100% sure either. you will more than likely eventually get banned for playing back ups on live due to the cat and mouse game that goes on between the dudes that made the firmware and microsoft. supposedly there are a few methods for making proper back ups but when you cut all the shit and arguments it's pretty much speculation.

i've got one box that was banned (guitar hero 3 did it) and 2 others that aren't. all 3 have been modded and the last 2 i have i play back ups on but leave the network cable unplugged.


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S.S.S




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:00    Post subject:
tw1st wrote:
Guys quick question, I want to get my 360 modded today for gta4 ( im still buying it ). I found someone in my area who does it for $60 and takes around 30 minutes to do.

I asked this person, if there is any modchip installation, and she said no there isnt, it is just a firmware downgrade that allows you to play backups.

Now my question, is this person full of shit? Can a simple firmware downgrade/upgrade allow me to play backedup games and regular games, as well as useing xbox live, or will i need an actual modchip to run backups?


That person is not full of it but 60$ is a ripoff. He's just going to flash the fimware of your DVD so that you can run backup but i'm not sure about Live.

You probably could do it yourself though since it's not very hard if you have a detailed step by step tutorial (which can be found with your friend google). You could do that and buy GTA with the 60 $ you saved Very Happy . But then again you must be certain that you won't screw up becaue otherwise your 360 may be FUBAR.
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Banditt




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:17    Post subject:
there are some cheap mofos on nforce. I did my 360 myself but 60 bucks doesn't sound bad to mod an xbox for someone you don't even know. I mean wtf. How is that a ripoff? It wouldn't be worth my time if someone asked me to do it for them for less than that. You have to take apart the case, take apart your pc case, hook everything up make the firmware do the install, its a pain in the ass. I dunno 60 bucks seems reasonable to me if you don't know how to do it yourself.
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S.S.S




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:25    Post subject:
Banditt wrote:
there are some cheap mofos on nforce. I did my 360 myself but 60 bucks doesn't sound bad to mod an xbox for someone you don't even know. I mean wtf. How is that a ripoff? It wouldn't be worth my time if someone asked me to do it for them for less than that. You have to take apart the case, take apart your pc case, hook everything up make the firmware do the install, its a pain in the ass. I dunno 60 bucks seems reasonable to me if you don't know how to do it yourself.


It's not a pain in the ass it take like 2 min to open the 360 , 1 min to open the PC case and 10 sec to hook both together so i'll say about 4 min 30 sec Very Happy .

The tricky part is when it come to do the flash itself but then again it's easy with a tutorial. I'd do it for 20 bucks for a stranger and free for my buddies because i'm a nice guy Cool . That's why 60 $ seen expensive to me but if you don't feel safe about doing it yourself then it may be worth the investment i guess since it the end it means free games.
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:27    Post subject:
i'm just lazy as hell that's why i would charge at least 40 cause i'd have to get up and move and open the xbox and blah blah etc.
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oddWord




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:28    Post subject: agreed sixty bucks
Sixty bucks is definitely fair for someone with the knowledge and the hardware to do it and to take the time out of his/her day to do it. I would get it done. I think you have to have a specific DL burner to burn backups. Luckily LG has a really common and cheap drive that works just great. Getting the Sata card was a total workout for me though. Online was all sold out. Went to 5 different local store before I found the right card.

If the person was your friend I'd say the price should be free.
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:33    Post subject:
pretty sure any type of DL burner will work. if you're trying to make your own back ups they recommend using a particular samsung model with a kreon firmware on it.
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oddWord




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:38    Post subject: Verbatim
Those verbatim discs are awesome. I just got my first spindle. I always knew they were the best but there were no deals around here. The games that I've have burned so far are working better than originals. Can't stress enough how verbatim has to be the media.\


Only 22 more files now!
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piggymouth




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:49    Post subject:
Anyone know where to go online (US) to get some good deals on DVD+R DL Media...?

I'm in need of some but all the local shops in town don't have any sales going this week for DL
Media.


Topic: I was nice and modded my friends 360s for free. I was lucky they all had Sammy Drives.
I have never done a Hitachi but I bought an Elite with a BenQ and swapped it out with my Sammy from my old prem system. Works well so far.
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At0micGarden




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:53    Post subject:
I use www.allmediaoutlet.com for most of my media needs, but for brand name like Verbatim, you might be better off going to an outlet store.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:57    Post subject:
I find that its often not the media, but the burner that is the problem.
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iindianhustler




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 18:58    Post subject:
Just wondering what usenet service are you guys using? Giganews?
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oddWord




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 19:09    Post subject: media
I have used memorex, fuji, and phillips media and they're all bad. I still haven't finished acreed because of that. You can hear it when my drive crashes to a screaming halt using those discs. It's like the 360 can no longer read anything and brings the disc to a grinding halt. it's really loud and surprised alot of people I've had over. This even happens some times on original media. Both games I've burned on Verbatims however have never done this.

I don't use a usenet service that much. I would use giga if I was to start again. I was using easynews but their retention isn't as good. Right now all I've been doing is using my ISP's server. It only has 3 day retention but if you stay on top of things, that'll do fine. What's your ISP offer?
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oddWord




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 19:13    Post subject:
piggymouth wrote:
Anyone know where to go online (US) to get some good deals on DVD+R DL Media...?

I'm in need of some but all the local shops in town don't have any sales going this week for DL
Media.


Topic: I was nice and modded my friends 360s for free. I was lucky they all had Sammy Drives.
I have never done a Hitachi but I bought an Elite with a BenQ and swapped it out with my Sammy from my old prem system. Works well so far.


I don't know if they ship to the us but futureshop.com had a sale on 20 verbs for 25 bucks. That's where I got mine. Maybe Bestbuy offers the same deal. Same company.
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piggymouth




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 19:36    Post subject:
iindianhustler wrote:
Just wondering what usenet service are you guys using? Giganews?


Giganews is what I use.
I've been on for years and never had a problem. The retention is long (200 Days) so if you miss something you can go back a long way.

They also offer a SSL connection for your account which is a plus.
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Banditt




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 19:50    Post subject:
iindianhustler wrote:
Just wondering what usenet service are you guys using? Giganews?


usenetserver.com....Been using it for years now, good retention and its cheap.
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iindianhustler




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 19:52    Post subject:
well you see... I signed up for giganews like 10 minutes ago...and I have not recieved an email from them for my username and password.. is that normal?
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KrAzY-KaMeL




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 19:54    Post subject:
The guy up there that said it's usually the drive it correct IMO. How is it that 5 different brands of media (Some of which are just rebranded) all fail? Memorex worked flawless for me IF I burned at 4x instead of 2. 2 Would cause skipping and stuttering. I can't remember the little perks of other media but they all had some special shit to make them work.

As soon as I swapped burners all those things changed and I had to re discover what worked and what didn't. Laughing
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Gargamel198024




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 20:04    Post subject:
Banditt wrote:
iindianhustler wrote:
Just wondering what usenet service are you guys using? Giganews?


usenetserver.com....Been using it for years now, good retention and its cheap.


I signed up for Giganews like thre times and not once got a username and password!!! Now am with USENETSERVER and love it


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iindianhustler




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 20:16    Post subject:
One more question...I know what par files are..but when downloading something it gives me par files 1.08gb and the actual file which is 8gb do i need both or could i just dl the 8.0gb one
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Banditt




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 20:21    Post subject:
iindianhustler wrote:
One more question...I know what par files are..but when downloading something it gives me par files 1.08gb and the actual file which is 8gb do i need both or could i just dl the 8.0gb one


if you know what par files are then you should be able to answer your own question....You don't need the pars if the original iso/rars are all intact and corruption free...
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tw1st




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 20:47    Post subject:
alright guys, thanks for all the responses about modding my 360, I will be doing it tonight.

One more question, is it possible to reverse the mod so I can go back to just having a regular 360, or is it pretty much a one way ticket?


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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 21:06    Post subject:
tw1st wrote:
alright guys, thanks for all the responses about modding my 360, I will be doing it tonight.

One more question, is it possible to reverse the mod so I can go back to just having a regular 360, or is it pretty much a one way ticket?


You can go back! Smile

Just be sure to keep orig-fw.bin


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dick8843




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 21:11    Post subject:
quick question guys is there a program i can use to check my 360 disk has been burn correctly ?
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