A certificate of completed and approved apprenticeship!
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deelix
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:14    Post subject: A certificate of completed and approved apprenticeship!
...I think its called in English. Well I passed. So now im a proper IT technical... something Razz Don't know the proper therm. Easier to get a permanent pretty good paying job =)

Maybe go to uni later or take Cisco sertifications tho ^^
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Cohen




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:24    Post subject:
fuck uni be an entrepreneur ffs Laughing its 2008!

you could be the next .com millionaire


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deelix
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:26    Post subject:
Thinking that too... ill work for some years and get some more XP.
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Cohen




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:32    Post subject:
If you get your millions, dont forget the hood. Laughing

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sabalasa




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:32    Post subject:
...or the next yet-another-pauper Wink

It all depends how good you are and what you offer Razz


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:37    Post subject:
Laughing I think I have more faith in our deelix than you do sebalsa. The force is strong in this one.


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sabalasa




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:42    Post subject:
I just thought I mention that there is also another side of the coin...that does not mean I do not believe in him. Just do not take anything granted that's all Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:50    Post subject:
Startup companies tend to be middle aged guys who are at their 3rd or 4th attempt. The tiny amount of uni-student-in-garage stories are just much more interesting and get more play.
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:53    Post subject:
You can make a lot of money inbetween being a middle man. I know a guy who basically does no work but gets payed almost $1500 a week. He runs a ring of webdesigners and coders and creates his money by collecting clients, syphonning it to these guys he trusts to do the work, gives them their money (me included), then gives the finnished project back to the client taking a 20% cut on top of each one. When its only say 70$ yet he does 20 or so a week, it adds up pretty fast. Its a fucking simple idea yet he makes LOTS of cash from it, and it is pretty limitless doing so. Yeh its hard work if you consider sending out 100 emails a day and posting on countless forums, but shit, at least hes sat in the comfort of his room.


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 11:59    Post subject:
now then....it's really easy to run a siphoning company and collect money if:

1) You have a shitload of clients
2) You have the highly skilled workhorses

Now how many firms will pay a noname Joe and trust their web to him? And how many hardcore workhorses trust a noname Joe?

My point is that the start of this kind of comp is very....very difficult. First you have to work on your reputation...then you must have impressive references...then let's talk about trust Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 12:03    Post subject:
...not to mention that you have to be better, faster, more flexible etc than your competitors


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 12:05    Post subject:
Well, I have known about how long its taken him to get where he is, he has established himself well with hard work. It did take a long time but he had a lot of help from a friend of mine in the early days, and does make a comfortable ammount. He has people working for him (forum spammers mostly Laughing no doubt..) who help him hunt down extra clients should any of his regular clients not have work. Siphoning companies tend to intertwine with others, its like a web on the web.


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 12:32    Post subject:
...and that intertwinement makes you also less attractive for big customers. The key argument is always reliability or quality of service. If you only have a well known name and behind the name lies emptiness or only a bunch of freelancers then what kind of reliability are we talking about?

One thing is to create the web solution...the other thing is to maintain it for the rest of it's life cycle. Are the same freelancers available after 5 years? Is the company itself around after 5 years? Then what?

Therefore freelancing or siphoning freelancers is in its essence...a dying form of entrepreneurship. Most big companies will take ongoing concern more and more seriously making the life of freelancers more and more complicated. Then you'll have to compete with really big guys who have an army of workhorses for the big money or live from scraps creating web pages for gas stations etc. It's up to you what you want to do with your life and with your company.


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 12:38    Post subject:
but again...that's my point of view and what my life has taught me Very Happy


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 12:42    Post subject:
you are very right, but he always seems to find fresh work and fresh freelancers. He gets the work because his portfolio is jam packed full of top notch work. One of my best 'online friends' is also one of the best coders around, hes been around since the very beginning and steamrolled through 'scene' with his techniques and he has been working for the same guy for years now.

Anyway, yes you are right, but like I said its a great way to 'inbetween' until you decide what you want to do long term Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th May 2008 12:46    Post subject:
get your CISCO thing. Easy, cheap and good return on investment later. Smile

You can even get it while you do another job and upgrade your job position with it
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