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Parallax_
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 16:47    Post subject:
mitna wrote:
http://shrani.si/f/t/6C/3BRY4Ojm/howitlookz.jpg
Nuff said.

Yes, I totally fucking agree with you. And these people: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

They are fucking spot on. Diablo3 is really WoW-Diablo3, it looks fucking like kindergarden. Check out the modified pictures at the bottom, I think if Diablo3 looked like that it would be brilliant.

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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 16:51    Post subject:
You can always turn down brightness and colours on your monitor Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 16:54    Post subject:
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You can always turn down brightness and colours on your monitor Razz

That does not give the same effect. It does not remove the cartoon crap, sorry to say. While I am excited Blizzard finally revealed Diablo3, I am disappointed by it's look and the inventory system.

I am sure it will play great, but I am also sure I could tear my eyes out just because of the out of place WoW look.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 16:55    Post subject:
loads of the lads who frequent my ventrilo server are playing diablo 2 like crazy since this announcement. Sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 19:23    Post subject:
People shouldn't fret too much about the shadows and the light radius, they are all gonna use maphack again which removes that "fog of war" because it annoys everybody.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 19:28    Post subject:
Xenthalon wrote:
People shouldn't fret too much about the shadows and the light radius, they are all gonna use maphack again which removes that "fog of war" because it annoys everybody.
It didnt annoy me, altough ill wont be crying over that.

But that cartoonish style will now be, thanks to you Wink, too much in my focus.
Even though i was fine with environments now im thinking of little chubby dwarfs and cute little fairies in candyland -.-
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 20:04    Post subject:
I signed it!
every word in that Petition is GOLD!

i want diablo and not another fcking wow
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 20:10    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
mitna wrote:
http://shrani.si/f/t/6C/3BRY4Ojm/howitlookz.jpg
Nuff said.

Yes, I totally fucking agree with you. And these people: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

They are fucking spot on. Diablo3 is really WoW-Diablo3, it looks fucking like kindergarden. Check out the modified pictures at the bottom, I think if Diablo3 looked like that it would be brilliant.

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WOW man, i can hardly distinguish anything in that picture.
bad bad bad bad BAD.
Leave my diablo 3 alone please.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 21:35    Post subject:
xTerro wrote:
Parallax_ wrote:
mitna wrote:
http://shrani.si/f/t/6C/3BRY4Ojm/howitlookz.jpg
Nuff said.

Yes, I totally fucking agree with you. And these people: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

They are fucking spot on. Diablo3 is really WoW-Diablo3, it looks fucking like kindergarden. Check out the modified pictures at the bottom, I think if Diablo3 looked like that it would be brilliant.

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WOW man, i can hardly distinguish anything in that picture.
bad bad bad bad BAD.
Leave my diablo 3 alone please.


I actually like that 2nd picture better. . .
But either one looks great to me.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 21:36    Post subject:
I am glad some of you do not make games, you cannot please everyone at the same time making a game, I like the way they made it and dont want it changed

maybe the people complaining should make their own game Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 21:45    Post subject:
I understand why some people want it to look more like Diablo 2. I somehow agree with them that the suggested pictures make it more gothic as it should. However, the only thing gameplay wise that's changed, is the light radius showing all visible area and not just the line of sight.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 22:49    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 22:59    Post subject:
Seeing the gameplay video a few more times I've actually come to like the look of the game. Looks very smooth and the awesome power of the barbarian as he destroys his enemies is very satisfying.

Damn I spoke to soon, played that cursed Titan Quest again today and now Im hooked. Just hate to start every rpg with inferior weapons and armor but after the initial grinding when your char becomes stronger the game opens up abit.

Been thinking about D3 all day, I feel just like that fat dude on youtube masturbating over playing d3...


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 22:59    Post subject:
Yah, there's a problem with Blizzard's recent games where they're all looking more and more alike. Right now it looks like Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, WoW and Warcraft 3 are all gonna end up looking *very* similar. Could also well be that they're all actually using the same graphics engine, but that could still have been overcome by making the models and art darker, more gritty and less blocky.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 23:05    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
Damn I spoke to soon, played that cursed Titan Quest again today and now Im hooked. Just hate to start every rpg with inferior weapons and armor but after the initial grinding when your char becomes stronger the game opens up abit.

Been thinking about D3 all day, I feel just like that fat dude on youtube masturbating over playing d3...

Same here. Been playing TQ:IF for quiet some time now, I'm lvl 22 pure Warfare spec. Great game all in all.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 23:22    Post subject:
Oracle level 56 in TQ:IT 3rd act Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 23:55    Post subject:
Hm im still annoyed that you couldn't play the TQ expansion with a new char. Accidently nuked my saves Neutral
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 23:55    Post subject:
Anyone have a workaround for that btw?
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 00:22    Post subject:
poullou wrote:
Oracle level 56 in TQ:IT 3rd act Very Happy

level 60 diviner- all done Razz
2 chars at 35 lvl,one 37, one lvl 40, one 26, one 9,
damn i guess i'am quite addicted to it.. constantly going back for more... i do hope that diablo will turn as good as TQ (tho so far it has inferior char models)


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 01:14    Post subject:
Petition For Diablo III.
''Renewed artistic direction for Diablo 3''

http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html


6147 Total Signatures till now

Sign if you wish!


Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Reaction
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 02:05    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
Yah, there's a problem with Blizzard's recent games where they're all looking more and more alike. Right now it looks like Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, WoW and Warcraft 3 are all gonna end up looking *very* similar. Could also well be that they're all actually using the same graphics engine, but that could still have been overcome by making the models and art darker, more gritty and less blocky.


A Blizzard developer on some forums already stated that StarCraft 2, Diablo 3, WoW and War3, all four use a different 3D engine.

Actually, SC2 supports HDR, pixel shader 3.0, while war3 doesn't even support pixel shader 2.1 at all. WoW is PS 2.1 only.

Dunno about Diablo 3 but it seems it is PS 2.1 only too from the graphics.

IMO the fact their games look kinda the same is because their art directors are working into the same office I guess ? Very Happy That, and the fact all these games are blocky, and thus the cartoonish look is needed to make it look OK.
Realistic graphics with such low polys would look awful, and that's pretty much why lots of MMORPG don't look as nice as WoW, even though it displays some more polygons.

Realistic + low poly = not possible. Take for example the cell-shading games : X360/PS3 versions of these (for example DBZ) are looking nicer than their PS2 version, but not THAT much, because low poly + cartoon look = ok Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 02:30    Post subject:
Strange. Sure it's not just different(upgraded) versions of the same engine? Makes little sense to develop 4 seperate game engines, I'd say.

But yeah, obviously the fact that they're all working in the same building is gonna affect how the games end up looking. I've just despised the Warcraft 3 look ever since the day I first tried the game though, so I can't say I'm happy they're now transferring it to both SC2 & D3 too.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 09:27    Post subject:
I'am pretty sure Starcraft II and Diablo III use the same Graphics Engine, if at all a different Version, but it wouldnt surprise me if its pretty much the exact same

For WoW or Warcraft III, id say its a different engine, probably even from one another.

And i bet Diablo III utilizes HDR and other Shader 3.0 Mechanics, of course Starcraft II too.


Another Topic, this whole Petition.

I mean .. WTF ?


Why wont those People let Blizzard do their Job ? After all THEY are the Game Designers, not you, me, us.


If they dont like the Style of the Game, well - become Game Designer and go work for Blizz and try your luck but otherwise let them do their job, they've always done a great job and every game was a success, i trust them in what they do and they know what they do very well.


Its like youre telling an Artist how to sing or write their songs

Like .. hey Robbie .. Rudebox sucks make a new album, i tell you how.. do this bla bla bla, do that bla bla bla.

Thats redicioulus, just like my grammar !
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 09:57    Post subject:
At least that what they say. Seems they aren't sharing their engines between their teams, as if it was 4 different teams.

I remember reading that War3 dev (now SC2 dev) used to help WoW developers to polish WoW before it was out so maybe the same is happening for every blizzard game, I don't know. Remember that WoW used lots of icons for the spells coming straight from War3 but then again, all these games had the same lead designer : Rob Pardo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pardo) so i wouldn't be surprise that's where these graphics come from...

Seems he isn't behind SC2 dev though (according to wikipedia) but he is actually too...

And there is this man (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=95109) that is the art director for lots of blizzard's games. Seems their teams aren't 100% separated after all.

Raap wrote:
Strange. Sure it's not just different(upgraded) versions of the same engine? Makes little sense to develop 4 seperate game engines, I'd say.

But yeah, obviously the fact that they're all working in the same building is gonna affect how the games end up looking. I've just despised the Warcraft 3 look ever since the day I first tried the game though, so I can't say I'm happy they're now transferring it to both SC2 & D3 too.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 11:46    Post subject:
I don't think they D3 uses the same engine. I remember that one of the Hellgate devs said they couldn't just buy any current engine because they all only support solid levels and not randomly generated ones.

Maybe a reason for D3 also having its very own engine?
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 12:00    Post subject:
D3 looks great as it is and signing petitions is retarded cuz blizzard couldnt care less anyway

diablo 3 ftw!
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 12:02    Post subject:
goukii wrote:
I'am pretty sure Starcraft II and Diablo III use the same Graphics Engine, if at all a different Version, but it wouldnt surprise me if its pretty much the exact same


SCII uses an updated warcraft 3 engine
Diablo 3 uses a custom made one -

the thing i i like the most in the engine is the use of Havock physics in it (i'll compare it again to Titan quest- where there were many funny moments.. like sending a monster flying over a cliff or hitting a low lvl mob with high lvl char- and it makes it fly like 20 meters and landing on a spiked fence- priceless Very Happy Or chasing a unique ring falling down the stairs, just to see it drop in a lake with no hope of getting it Razz)


btw the petition to make DIII more dark and gothic- has now more than 9 500 signatures - nice Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 13:17    Post subject:
Another example

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The problem with most of these examples is that they overdue the black & white stuff, Diablo 2 and even D1 had more color to it than these examples.
People get the wrong exception when they see them.
Just add a bit more colur to the pic i added and slightly more brighte and there we have it.
Blizzard should just put that in as an option in the game to satisfay booth sides, meaning the people who want a successor to the Diablo series and the people who want kiddie game.
The character/world models are far worse though, and i doubt there will be a change to those.




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 13:35    Post subject:
goukii wrote:
Why wont those People let Blizzard do their Job ? After all THEY are the Game Designers, not you, me, us.
We are speaking, because we know that blizzard is capable of doing one of the most awesome games ever. And seeing how the graphics is not diablo is just not worthy of that. I love diablo and want diablo and will buy whatever blizzard does Wink
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