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| MasterJuba wrote: | | alcoholic. |
Don´t think so, I don´t need to drink. I have no problems to go without alcohol for months.
But the drinking culture on swedish universitys is pretty weird. Almost everyone I know here drinks atleast 1 time per week, and with drinking I mean more than 8 cans of lager, usually alot more. And I wouldnt say that they are alcoholics.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jun 2008 20:20 Post subject: |
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when you put lager on your cornflakes
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jun 2008 23:26 Post subject: Re: How do you know when you are becoming an alcoholic? |
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| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | | How do you know when you are becoming an alcoholic? |
When you wake up on your living room floor with rug burns on your forehead and you have no fucking idea how you got there or what day it is.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 00:01 Post subject: |
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| NuclearShadow wrote: | Theres no such thing as Alcoholics everyone else is just a lightweight  |
+1
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 01:29 Post subject: Re: How do you know when you are becoming an alcoholic? |
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| Serben wrote: | | When you wake up on your living room floor with rug burns on your forehead and you have no fucking idea how you got there or what day it is. |
It could be worse, like waking up with ugly colored lipstick around your anus. But hey, thats just me.
| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | | How do you know when you are becoming an alcoholic? |
How about when your nickname is the same as your favorite drink.
But seriously. If you drink everyday, for a longer period of time, and try to stop for a while but you really can't, then you are an alcoholic.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 03:00 Post subject: |
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I cut down on alcohol completely, an entire week without and now I will only drink in the weekends, cuz it fucks me up sometimes the next day:(
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 03:17 Post subject: |
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| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | | , cuz it fucks me up sometimes the next day:( |
thats what you get for drinking cheap shit
its funny that you get no hung over if you drink something from the higher table |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 03:49 Post subject: |
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yea pretty much...thats all about being a kid is
no shame in that, you were once like that too so, maybe little less since people were not that spoiled back in day like they are now
but you get the drift
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 04:23 Post subject: |
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pretty much but i also dont have too good liver 
i also have Hepatitis B, when i was younger i was three times in hospital due to my skin going yellowish
isn't there a saying that you dont realize it unless you lose it?
and i hate that term alcoholic, when people call me that, i think to myself is there something wrong with me or people are just plain asshats
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 05:26 Post subject: |
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people are asshats. life is what you make of it. if alcohol is a part of it then so be it.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008 05:51 Post subject: |
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hopefully by the time my liver will be completely fucked up, scientist will come out with organ cloning or some kind of complete regrowth of the organs 
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I drink around 4-5 beer per day.. sometime it's 1-2 sometime it's 10-12
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 03:21 Post subject: |
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I am not mean I am just being truthful. I worked in a hospital and I heard what the nurses said and just their general attitude. They feel for the accident people, the young sick people, even the idiot people with family. not so much for the elderly and none for the addicts. There are 45 yr old guys there are dying from liver failure. It was really sad.
Esophagus is part of your throat that swallows. When your liver is so damaged (called fatty liver, not scared) the vein that goes from your liver to your esphagus becomes backed up. Meaning that the blood flow in your body is lower then the pressure in the portal vein. Ergo the veins break open and bleed. Usually this happens after a binge. You start to throw up blood and bleed to death. It is the end of the road for most. Esophagus varies I believe it is called. You also start bleeding from your butt as well.
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4-5 is bad according to Taber’s medical enclop.
(I am sure nouse has that book, we all do. --->green one)
By them it is 4-5 drinks a week total
No one should drink more then 4-5 drinks at a sitting. If you do it is bingeing.
If you have more than 2 hangovers a year you have a problem.
Also my own personal research I believe you need a 3 day break from a heavy day of drinking. Heavy meaning 4 ounces of booze or spirits.
10 yrs of heavy drinking is serious liver damage.
People can live very healthy on a very small part of their liver (less then half) altho liver damage due to booze is the worse. Fatty liver.
From what I have been told it takes about a month (if you are true) for your liver to get as good as it is going to get. A lot of doctors don’t even have this kind of info.
Anyone who wants to know can always go to any clinic or their family doctor and get a liver panel test done. If you go to a clinc in canada your family doctor will not get the results unless you give a permission
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what about people who dont smoke and drink but still die in their 40s/50s?
i mean why make your life more complicated then it is? ok fine liver is fucked up but you could have left the explanations out how it happens in details
if i would have to worry what happen to me in 20 years might as well kill myself now since I KNOW that "its" waiting for me, heck might even get him by a bus tomorrow and it would solve all the problems
alcoholism is a big whole conspiracy
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 03:55 Post subject: |
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| besthijacker wrote: | what about people who dont smoke and drink but still die in their 40s/50s?
i mean why make your life more complicated then it is? ok fine liver is fucked up but you could have left the explanations out how it happens in details
if i would have to worry what happen to me in 20 years might as well kill myself now since I KNOW that "its" waiting for me, heck might even get him by a bus tomorrow and it would solve all the problems
alcoholism is a big whole conspiracy |
No it is not, that is denial. It is a fact that if you drink too much it will kill you. Some people faster then others. Everyone is different. Same as food as well. Stuff your face full of fatty food and get to be 300 plus and see how long you live.
Everything in moderation is ok.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 03:56 Post subject: |
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| besthijacker wrote: | | what about people who dont smoke and drink but still die in their 40s/50s? |
genetics >> lifestyle in a lot of cases
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | besthijacker wrote: | | what about people who dont smoke and drink but still die in their 40s/50s? |
genetics >> lifestyle in a lot of cases |
All things being relative, if you live a healthy lifestyle and you die in your 40s/50s you may have poor genetics, but I am confident if those same people didn't live a healthy lifestyle they'd die in their 30's/40s at best.
poor genetics and poor lifestyle is a remedy for disaster. No one knows now long we have, but we do know that living a healthy life improves the quality of our lives, having a good quality of life should be one of if not the highest priority.
Mental health is huge on physical health as well, and obviously you can't have a good quality of life without good mental health.
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I found out I was an alcoholic when I started my day with either one or two glasses of whisky or white russians if i was up for having a heart burn and just do nothing for a while but moan till noon. That was 2 years ago.
Seriously a lot of people here/there are in denial. Like, fuck I don't believe i'm an alcoholic but i drink way too fucking much. Like while camping a week ago... i think i drank a bottle of scotch between my brother in law and me a day. THe day before camping, i started drinking at 9 pm and ended at 5am. 1 bottle of scotch went down the drain. It's expensive!
That's a fucking shitload. In my house 3 bottles go a week. Sometimes 2 bottles of 1.75L. Like it's fucking disgusting. That's my lifestyle. If i'm not drinking at home, i'm drinking at a pub with friends. If it's early in the morning and I'm not working, I'll drink.
Like fuck, put me in aa and people will be shocked. I know people who drink a shit load more than me. But the thing is... i started early. Really early. had my first beer at 19. Been drinking scotch years before that.
Like, my friend will start drinking tons and tons and tons until he can't even lift his eyes. Gets fucking sloshed. All after one sip of anything alcoholic. He's got a problem.
When I drink, I don't stop. But nothing really gets me going. Like. I'll only drink when I want. I want it a lot, but I didn't drink tonight or last night. I don't crave for it. I just drink when it's there.
Like that's fucked up. But in a good way. 
Only way to find out you're an alcoholic is to admit it. You drink more than once a week of anything for any other reason than being social with friends/family then you're an alcoholic. If you drink and see the excuse of hanging with friends to drink and rationalize it as being normal, then you're an alcoholic. Doubting yourself means you're afraid. Either admit it or don't. Your life won't go down the drain if you're an alocholic. Your life wont get better if you're not. You'll still drink. You'll still have fun. Still enjoy a time with friends. And bang. Seek help if you start ruining your life. Cause right now, you're still a kid. Enjoy life!
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 05:43 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | Cause right now, you're still a kid. Enjoy life! |
That's what, I have been doing for past couple of years
Doing all the stuff i can before it will be too late!
so i can say to my kids, been there done that and dont do it! |
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 05:55 Post subject: |
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Waldo you say you don't crave it but you do it to excess all the time. It is your habit. Heart burn is a bag sign.
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when you drink everyday and rape chicks because you are drunken.
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and if they look up to you, see how it didn't fuck you up, they won't hesitate doing it 
Do what you want. Live how you want. But don't let it control your life.
Want to tell your kids you do coke every sunday... do so but don't expect them coming to you... telling you they injected and say that you'll be wrong in punishing because you enjoy coke. 
Kids will drink. Kids will do drugs. Letting them know you did them too and you aren't fucked up like the guys on tv. Then... pfft it won't work out that well. 
Live life. Learn from it. That's all you can really do. Life is short.
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