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| Glottis wrote: | | No, you are not bright because you think you know more about game developing and styling from looking at a very early 20 min of gameplay footage, than the very best developers (artists) at Blizzard who actually make the game. |
Did you notice how Warcraft 3 and WoW looks like? There are more than a few hints that Diablo 3 looks like that as well - or goes in that direction -, which is just sad for some (or many, i dont know). Period, so why dont you stop the insults?
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 13:24 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 14:08 Post subject: |
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Here we go again, still going on with "my opinion this", "my opinion that", who are you to say that your opinion on how D3 should look like is the right one? And stop insulting me just because I like the game the way it is.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 14:12 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: | | Here we go again, still going on with "my opinion this", "my opinion that", who are you to say that your opinion on how D3 should look like is the right one? And stop insulting me just because I like the game the way it is. |
We are stating our opinion and nothing more, you on the other hand are insulting others for merely having and stating their opinion. Why do you avoid that point?
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 14:21 Post subject: |
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| Nui wrote: | | Glottis wrote: | | Here we go again, still going on with "my opinion this", "my opinion that", who are you to say that your opinion on how D3 should look like is the right one? And stop insulting me just because I like the game the way it is. |
We are stating our opinion and nothing more, you on the other hand are insulting others for merely having and stating their opinion. Why do you avoid that point? |
If only it were that easy. I was already asked to explain myself as to why I don't like photoshops with ruined (darkened etc) D3 screenshots, I was also asked to shut up because I like the game how it looks. You are doing much more than just stating your opinion, you turned this thread into "sign the petition or gtfo".
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 14:39 Post subject: |
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Ok, ill accept that, as i do vaguely remeber someone telling you to shut up.
What kind of contrast was that blizzard talking about anyway? I mean, Diablo does not need so much contrast so its levels can span from diablos inner sanctuarium to kirbys dreamland.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 17:12 Post subject: |
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I did not call anyone stupid. Stop making the stuff up.
| Nui wrote: | | What kind of contrast was that blizzard talking about anyway? I mean, Diablo does not need so much contrast so its levels can span from diablos inner sanctuarium to kirbys dreamland. |
Contrast between different places. Like if you are in dungeon dark colors dominate, but when you walk outside suddenly it brightens and gives you satisfaction of escaping from the dark. Also contrast between different areas probably, maybe like in WoW. Just a guess 
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 17:18 Post subject: |
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So why did they make even the dungeons bright?
Yah, maybe like in WoW. And that's the problem with the game. While some of us do, alot of us don't want another World of Warcraft just in isometric.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 17:29 Post subject: |
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| fawe4 wrote: | | Your idea is wrong. What if game would look grim and dark. Would you shut up and leave people that would like it cartoony to start petitions and bitching on forums? |
The difference being there's no basis in asking for it to be more cartoony.
Diablo III is a sequel to a franchise of games that has a long history of being atmospherically dark, gloomy and scary. If you've never had the experience of playing Diablo before it was passée then you might not see where the passion for rekindling that ambience in the newest iteration comes from. For a lot of people the ambience is one of the most defining features of Diablo (that and it being a mice killer).
Nobody wants it to be simply 'darker', 'grainy' or 'brown' (etc). I would personally ask Blizzard to use their considerable talents to achieve a more faithful look in their own way without diminishing what they've already achieved. As far as I'm concerned you can have the best of both worlds (colour, variety, the works), it's wrong to make out it's either one way or the other, and in fact the very reasonable statement made by Blizzard actually states this was and is their goal!
I just hope they take it to heart because what little we've seen shows merely a large colour palette and very little atmospheric change.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 19:14 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: | | fawe4 wrote: | | Your idea is wrong. What if game would look grim and dark. Would you shut up and leave people that would like it cartoony to start petitions and bitching on forums? |
The difference being there's no basis in asking for it to be more cartoony.
Diablo III is a sequel to a franchise of games that has a long history of being atmospherically dark, gloomy and scary. If you've never had the experience of playing Diablo before it was passée then you might not see where the passion for rekindling that ambience in the newest iteration comes from. For a lot of people the ambience is one of the most defining features of Diablo (that and it being a mice killer).
Nobody wants it to be simply 'darker', 'grainy' or 'brown' (etc). I would personally ask Blizzard to use their considerable talents to achieve a more faithful look in their own way without diminishing what they've already achieved. As far as I'm concerned you can have the best of both worlds (colour, variety, the works), it's wrong to make out it's either one way or the other, and in fact the very reasonable statement made by Blizzard actually states this was and is their goal!
I just hope they take it to heart because what little we've seen shows merely a large colour palette and very little atmospheric change. |
Can't say I agree. You've seen 1 indoor dungeon and 1 outdoor environment. The atmosphere is something created with more than just the graphics.
I believe the direction Blizzard took is positive and hope they see it through. |
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 20:08 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: | | fawe4 wrote: | | Your idea is wrong. What if game would look grim and dark. Would you shut up and leave people that would like it cartoony to start petitions and bitching on forums? |
The difference being there's no basis in asking for it to be more cartoony.
Diablo III is a sequel to a franchise of games that has a long history of being atmospherically dark, gloomy and scary. If you've never had the experience of playing Diablo before it was passée then you might not see where the passion for rekindling that ambience in the newest iteration comes from. For a lot of people the ambience is one of the most defining features of Diablo (that and it being a mice killer).
Nobody wants it to be simply 'darker', 'grainy' or 'brown' (etc). I would personally ask Blizzard to use their considerable talents to achieve a more faithful look in their own way without diminishing what they've already achieved. As far as I'm concerned you can have the best of both worlds (colour, variety, the works), it's wrong to make out it's either one way or the other, and in fact the very reasonable statement made by Blizzard actually states this was and is their goal!
I just hope they take it to heart because what little we've seen shows merely a large colour palette and very little atmospheric change. |
Actually I don't care what direction they take, I'm only a little annoyed with your, if you don't think like me shut up, attitude.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 22:36 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Can't say I agree. You've seen 1 indoor dungeon and 1 outdoor environment. The atmosphere is something created with more than just the graphics. |
Graphics play a large part, particularly in a game like Diablo where there's very little dialogue or exposition. Realistically I wouldn't expect the rest of the game to differ that greatly either, at least not in the sense that it would matter to those of us already complaining - as the drawbacks of the WoW'ish direction is plain to see already.
Note that I'm not saying Diablo III (or by extension WoW) are bad looking games - just not what I want a Diablo sequel to resemble.
| Quote: | | Actually I don't care what direction they take, I'm only a little annoyed with your, if you don't think like me shut up, attitude. |
I don't have that attitude at all! My post was in response to someone whining about whiners, someone who avoided substantiating his opinion but responded defensively/sarcastically to those who did. If you put my 'shut up' into context it's not meant insultingly but to show the hypocrisy of his (and other apologists') post.
We get it; you are content with the way it currently looks, but that doesn't diminish our argument in the same way it doesn't diminish yours if we disagree. We can, y'know, co-exist. Come on; join hands, sing a song, and lets make love - and while we are at it, lets stop telling each other one person is right and the other is wrong. |
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 23:26 Post subject: |
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I have no idea what you guys are talking about, I keep looking at all 3 Diablo games and i don't see one difference at all. I even made a Photoshop montage to show case how they all blend in seemingly. I call it the Diablo Evolution. Hope it helps prove all these whiners wrong.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008 23:36 Post subject: |
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Personaly whoever said the graphics make Diablo obviously didn't pay much attention to D1 & D2 it was the atmosphere the music the shrills of the creatures the loot and in all that there was nothing about graphics.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 00:03 Post subject: |
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Judging the whole game based on 1 dungeon is awesome stuff though, you want every dungeon to be brown and dark?
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 00:21 Post subject: |
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Dear children, all your ego's, opinions and judgements on the matter are useless and pointless. There is only one thing that matters about Diablo 3:
THE COW LEVEL!!!
So pray that there WILL be one; or else...
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 00:34 Post subject: |
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I have a feeling they will replace the cow level with something new... to mass disappointment then quickly release it in a patch.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 00:59 Post subject: |
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Hmm... at least I hope Wirt's FOURTH leg will be around.
(As the thirth was/is here.)
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 08:56 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: | | (As the thirth was/is here.) |
That don't count. It's crap from WoW, just cheaps replicas all around  |
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 09:00 Post subject: |
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Blizzard is very gimmicky... I'm sure they'll play off that somehow.
Zelda like quests in WOW along with the lost vikings in uldaman (instance in WoW)...
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 09:07 Post subject: |
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Too bad blizzard don't opt for next-gen graphics, cause the gameplay sure look great. Both D3 and SC2 look amazingly fun to play, but have gfx looking like last year.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 09:09 Post subject: |
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| Dunge wrote: | | Too bad blizzard don't opt for next-gen graphics |
Nothing wrong with the graphics if you look at it technically. It's the art direction that is FUBAR (Blizzard apparently lives at Disneyland).
There are so many fanboys that are gonna swallow whatever Blizzard toss at them, here and elsewhere. |
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If you look closely at let's say the character legs, it's not even round it's nearly square. Walls and ground seem to miss the displacement map effect we are used to and just look plain simple with texture and basic lighting. Otherwise no, you're wrong. The technical side is bad, I think the art direction is quite good. I love the artworks/movies/interface. I love the way it's meant to be dark and epic.
I also laughed in the trailer when he say that the witch doctor firebomb kill everything it touch, then throw one on a rabbit and the rabbit don't even move. How could they let that video be released with such a ironical thing like this.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 09:27 Post subject: |
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| Dunge wrote: | | IThe technical side is bad |
Yes, you're right about that.
| Dunge wrote: | | I love the way it's meant to be dark and epic. |
Are we talking about the same game? Cause Diablo3 certainly isn't dark. 
It's bright and comical. |
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008 09:37 Post subject: |
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Yeah I agree I just looked at the petition photoshopped screens and it could look much darker (without loosing details). I was more talking dark in a sense you know blood, gore, demoniac things.
Btw about the low polygons, sure they could add a bit more polygons and it wouldn't hurt any video card that could possibly think about running a game released this year, but they could simply create some shaders who make us think there is more polygon while there's only a few. Multiple techniques exist for this, and it's implemented in nearly every games nowadays, why not blizzard? I can't stand to look at WoW blockiness and SC2/D3 don't seem much better.
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, the WoW character models wont differ from area to area, will they?
