Fallout 3
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zmed




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 13:39    Post subject:
My only gripe is the fatman. That's just...idiotic. It's only there to make retards goo ooh and aaah and make them scream like morons, just like the G4TV staff.

Until they don't show some NPC interactions, I won't pass final judgement.
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mrhelpfull




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 13:48    Post subject:
Hmm after watchin the video that sure as hell doesnt feel like fallout too me , just
a shooter witch some fallout ideas implemented. Bah
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 14:20    Post subject:
mrhelpfull wrote:
Hmm after watchin the video that sure as hell doesnt feel like fallout too me , just
a shooter witch some fallout ideas implemented. Bah


What did you expect : engine from oblivion + theme from fallout + game mechanic from mass effect = fallout 3
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PistolWhip




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 15:08    Post subject:
FISKER_Q wrote:
PistolWhip wrote:
Acer wrote:
Is it just me or does VATS seem overpowering? You pause the game, aim at various body parts and shoot, maybe the bethesda guys char in the game had major accuracy stats cause he always managed to kill his opponents. Seems overly simplistic, pause, aim and shoot.


Yeah I noticed that as well, he hit the targets regardless if they were a low-percentage shot. Also I wonder if the NPC's in Fallout 3 will have the touted Radiant A.I system.


Well as he said in the IGN demo he had a hacked demo to boost his character.


Yeah I missed all the stuff that was said as I had no sound.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 15:09    Post subject:
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Acer




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 15:24    Post subject:
PistolWhip wrote:
FISKER_Q wrote:
PistolWhip wrote:


Yeah I noticed that as well, he hit the targets regardless if they were a low-percentage shot. Also I wonder if the NPC's in Fallout 3 will have the touted Radiant A.I system.


Well as he said in the IGN demo he had a hacked demo to boost his character.


Yeah I missed all the stuff that was said as I had no sound.




Same here, only video no sound. Love the fact that you can listen to different radio stations while exploring. I hope to Jebus that if you walk long enough the radio signal gets weaker so that if your really lost or traveled long enough into the wasteland youll be all alone, not even the radio to keep you company. That would feel very creepy.


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 15:29    Post subject:
Map looks rather small to me and you can't go outside Washington, bummer.
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 15:57    Post subject:
I think they even lost all fallout mood. From this trailer trailer we learned that people had floating-robots before war, it is now Chinese who started the war and that pip-boy somehow stopped to be funny.

Not that I think it will all be completely bad, but its now clear they didn't even read a wiki about Fallout story.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2008 17:52    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
I think they even lost all fallout mood. From this trailer trailer we learned that people had floating-robots before war, it is now Chinese who started the war and that pip-boy somehow stopped to be funny.

Not that I think it will all be completely bad, but its now clear they didn't even read a wiki about Fallout story.


Uh all that stuff IS fallout.

China invaded Alaska to start the war. This is common knowledge in the Fallout lore. -> http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

Mr. Handy was in fact a common household robot just prior to the war. ->


And Pipboy was always a humorous take on the mascot and that tradition seems to have carried over.

Maybe you should be the one to wiki Fallout and go play them. Nothing you said was even close to accurate.
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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 06:29    Post subject:
The real Fallout 3 was so beautiful

Whether your for Bethesda making Fallout now or not you have to admire how the original Fallout 3 this game looks so damn fun... The war with the Brotherhood of Steel and the New California Republic would have been so awesome too.
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AKofC




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 06:45    Post subject:
Needs more demo's of the dialog.


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 13:31    Post subject:
Has there been a demo of the dialogs yet?


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Ancient78




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 13:36    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
Has there been a demo of the dialogs yet?


as far as i know ..no
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00101010




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 14:39    Post subject:
why are there hacking and lockpicking mini games?
Are there no science/lockpick skills? o.O (or do the skills make the mini games easier?)
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Acer




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 15:02    Post subject:
Im wondering how bethesda will plan this game. Oblivion was made with a view to try to satisfy all age groups and all players by trying to fix what was in their mind wrong with morrowind ie the combat, the barren world which i personally loved and the fact that you became so strong early on etc
The result was a game for the masses but one that was rejected by the majority of the true fans, rpg lovers and those with half a brain. Even with mods (OOO) etc Oblivion was still a mess and boring as hell to play.

Now will they do the same with Fallout, the game will be released on multi platforms and trying to do a game like fallout with such dedicated fanbase and dumbing it down for the console kiddies just seems like a bomb waiting to go off. And the end result will be a boring shooter with VATS as the main selling point, something probably no one will use anyway.

I think the way Bethesda has evolved they are much more focused on making a game that will be a financial success rather than fun and mature. But the way the industry is going thats not something strange, in the end its all about making money.

We'll see what happens and I really hope Fallout 3 will be atleast fun to play if not true to the material. Just hope it wont resemble oblivion in any way...


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FISKER_Q




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 15:08    Post subject:
00101010 wrote:
why are there hacking and lockpicking mini games?
Are there no science/lockpick skills? o.O (or do the skills make the mini games easier?)


The skills are there, if you do not have the skill to lockpick a door, then you won't be able to open it.

Whether or not your skill will directly affect the minigame's difficulty is unknown though.
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hurley




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 15:31    Post subject:
maybe ToddFucktard thinks that slow mo camera for every damn shot and exploded gimps is funny..hes responsible of that shit I hope his game fail and that falls on him and get fired
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SuTuRa




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 15:54    Post subject:
I´m sick of hearing people just saying bad... Every god damn game that comes out is rubbish!
Maybe the games shouldn´t come out to the PC platform, cuz any game that comes out is not good...
It only serves for the majority of gamers to say bad.


I´m excited to play this game, and it seems a very good game to me
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 15:55    Post subject:
With regards to lock picking it's done almost the same way as Oblivion, graphics wise, you stick two pieces of metal into the lock and on the console you control the two sticks with the diagonal controllers and the you have to "feel" for when the controller vibrates and then click a button, on the pc you have to move and click the mouse on sound queues, just as with Oblivion but it's harder to do now and you can't pick all locks if you haven't got the right skills.
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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 18:01    Post subject:
I always hated the lock picking in Oblivion. I rarely ever failed and always ended up with tons of lockpicks. On top of it I can only wonder how much time I actually spent lock picking every damn locked chest or important door that I went by. I really wish they didn't put that in Fallout 3...


SuTuRa wrote:
I´m sick of hearing people just saying bad... Every god damn game that comes out is rubbish!
Maybe the games shouldn´t come out to the PC platform, cuz any game that comes out is not good...
It only serves for the majority of gamers to say bad.


I´m excited to play this game, and it seems a very good game to me


Not every game is bad but quite a bit are and it seems like the bad ones are becoming more and more and the good ones less and less. Do you expect people to lie even to themselves and say the horrible games are good? How would that help anything? As a PC gamer I demand quality in games.

I wouldn't mind at all if the shitty games never went to PC that wouldn't be our loss and if someday they all become crap and no one buys the junk and PC gaming dies so be it. It will only be a phoenix rising from the ashes since groups would begin to form and make PC games once again most likely free at first and then the market would simply be reborn with quality games. These groups would probably consist of the current modding community which would turn into new and highly successful developers.

Ever notice the modding community already tends to out do the developers even on already great games? The developers sure the hell have noticed and started buying them. Counter-strike, Left4Dead , DoD, Desert Combat (Battlefield 1942 mod which probably is the sole reason why Battlefield 2 and all similar games of the modern franchise even exist) The fact is the current developers and publishers that release for the PC aren't needed. Even more so the publishers as digital distribution is taking over. In fact this rebirth just might be what PC gaming needs right now.
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liansk




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 19:02    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:

As a PC gamer I demand quality in games.


Or what?
You sound like a real douche when you talk like that.

Quote:
I wouldn't mind at all if the shitty games never went to PC that wouldn't be our loss and if someday they all become crap and no one buys the junk and PC gaming dies so be it. It will only be a phoenix rising from the ashes since groups would begin to form and make PC games once again most likely free at first and then the market would simply be reborn with quality games. These groups would probably consist of the current modding community which would turn into new and highly successful developers.

Ever notice the modding community already tends to out do the developers even on already great games? The developers sure the hell have noticed and started buying them. Counter-strike, Left4Dead , DoD, Desert Combat (Battlefield 1942 mod which probably is the sole reason why Battlefield 2 and all similar games of the modern franchise even exist) The fact is the current developers and publishers that release for the PC aren't needed. Even more so the publishers as digital distribution is taking over. In fact this rebirth just might be what PC gaming needs right now.


Bullshit.
No disrespect to the modding community, I believe that they are doing great work and all but a bunch of students most of whom never even spoke to each other in person cannot realistically match the products that pro developers and publishers give to you. If the developers and publishers would decide to let PC gaming die it will stay dead. Period.
Maybe, once in a 5 years or so you'll get a completely new game (and by "game" I mean something that at least comes close to the amount of content and complexity of todays game) with it's own's original engine and content. And even then, do you really believe that those developers wouldn't get their asses corporated within a week because they are loyal to the PC gaming scene (IE. PC fanboys). Laughing




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rossekdj




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 19:19    Post subject:
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/fallout3/demo/13861.html


demo


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Mas3ter




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 19:25    Post subject:
rossekdj wrote:
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/fallout3/demo/13861.html


demo



real or fake ?
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 19:32    Post subject:
Mas3ter wrote:
rossekdj wrote:
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/fallout3/demo/13861.html


demo



real or fake ?


Quote:
Fallout 3 prototype from 2003, codenamed Van Buren, which was in development at Black Isle Studios until the studio closed down
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 19:43    Post subject:
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-------About-------
This tech demo is the unfinished technical demo made by Black Isle Studio to showcase the result of their work on Van Buren (cancelled Fallout 3) to the rest of Interplay.
For more info: http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=35862

-----Disclaimer-----
This tech demo is not related to any product that has ever been released or will ever be released by Bethesda Studios.

This tech demo brought to you by No Mutants Allowed (http://www.nma-fallout.com/) and our partners at Rotgut.

----Installation----
To install the Fallout 3 (Van Buren) demo, simply extract the RAR file to a directory of your choice. If you are unfamiliar with RAR files, you can download 7-zip http://www.7-zip.org/. The first time you run the demo, you might receive a blank screen for several minutes; don't worry, this is normal and won't happen again (it has been known to take up to eight minutes). Whle the screen is blank, a 'F3' folder will be created under 'My Documents' or the equivalent on your computer, which is where the .ini, log, and character files (.CRT) will be stored.

For sure not F3 comming this fall!.


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AKofC




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 20:28    Post subject:
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and by "game" I mean something that at least comes close to the amount of content and complexity of todays game


I don't see how hard that's going to be considering that most of todays games are generally dumbed down.


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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 23:27    Post subject:
liansk wrote:

Or what?
You sound like a real douche when you talk like that.


Bullshit.
No disrespect to the modding community, I believe that they are doing great work and all but a bunch of students most of whom never even spoke to each other in person cannot realistically match the products that pro developers and publishers give to you. If the developers and publishers would decide to let PC gaming die it will stay dead. Period.
Maybe, once in a 5 years or so you'll get a completely new game (and by "game" I mean something that at least comes close to the amount of content and complexity of todays game) with it's own's original engine and content. And even then, do you really believe that those developers wouldn't get their asses corporated within a week because they are loyal to the PC gaming scene (IE. PC fanboys). Laughing


Or I won't buy the game and won't support the company in the future. How do I sound like a douche when I say that? I highly doubt you don't demand a certain quality in the games you play otherwise you would like everything. If thats the case and I am wrong just have someone dangle some keys in front of you and you should be entertained.

Not bullshit. Granted what was the modding community in its current form would have loads of trouble becoming the new developers but it would quickly evolve and many would find local people to work with. Lets not forget how gaming development started in the first place which normally involved a group of friends with a dream. This would also place many employees being laid off and they would be a valuable asset. Also I am 100% sure the hardware companies could heavily invest into anything that looks promising as the death of PC gaming would not work in their favor. This would greatly help with the costly aspects of game development. New developers would begin to pop up all over and wouldn't be pushed around by company's like EA. It may even start a golden age era of gaming. These new developers whom would most likely use digital distribution would save tons of money which would help them with their next project.

As for the game engines those would still be around as many are actually created by others and licensed out such as Gamebyro. Even Source engine would still be around even if Valve quit the PC they sure wouldn't mind licensing the engine for profits. Later on however new engines would be made by some of the developers. As for the new blood becoming "corporated" I think most of them would realize that their success was purely based off of the first hand knowledge of what they liked about games. Yes some would grow and become giants in the industry but I doubt they would ever make the same mistake that they had to once fix. No doubt the developers that left the PC would also come flocking back to take a piece of the pie which would force more competition and thus quality products. I'm sure the new blood developers would port their games to consoles but I highly doubt they would dumb it down or at least not dumb down the PC versions to the consoles gamers level like we are currently facing. Heck it might even make the console gamers demand more quality in games in the end.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jul 2008 00:37    Post subject:
Well, what they showed from the game seems ok. The world looks nice, and the combat seems to be decent, but yeah... I'm seriously missing some dialog and quest stuff from the videos.

All they showed was combat, which is really not the most important part of an RPG.



I wonder if it'll be like oblivion where they had like 6 voice actors for 500 NPCs, that was just ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jul 2008 02:24    Post subject:
SuTuRa wrote:
I´m sick of hearing people just saying bad... Every god damn game that comes out is rubbish!
Maybe the games shouldn´t come out to the PC platform, cuz any game that comes out is not good...
It only serves for the majority of gamers to say bad.


I´m excited to play this game, and it seems a very good game to me


Games ARE getting dumbed down... alot
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jul 2008 04:24    Post subject:
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