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Newty182




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 00:39    Post subject:
i fully agree that this might be harder but why cant VITALiTY just remove securom alltogether like they do with all their s-rom releases? no securom = no protection


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boundle
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 00:49    Post subject:
@ Newty182

cause it is not only securom. if it was securom only the game was out cracked 1 month ago. the real problem that make hard to crack it is the online activation. i think the game exe should be filled of triggers to remove. if triggers can't be removed cause the online activation hinder that game don't work and then don't remove all triggers ar almost the more can cause bugs or crash into game. mass effect galaxy map problem of the rld version is caused for the crack with not all triggers removed. then don't know if a keygen can work with this game. with bioshock any keygen was been made
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 01:04    Post subject:
@boundle

mass effect had online activation. VITALiTY crack had securom removed (no securom ment no protection) so what u talking about? u do know the online activation is a part of securom?


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boundle
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 01:08    Post subject:
@ Newty182

depend also from the serial online check. the protection of mass effect have a different scheme from that of alone in the dark. is not the same. the mass effect or spore creature edition check is different from that of bioshock or alone in the dark
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SuggarRay




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 01:12    Post subject:
interesting ^^ when the game costs 5$ ill buy it Laughing
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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 01:49    Post subject:
SuggarRay wrote:
interesting ^^ when the game costs 5$ ill buy it Laughing


Wait a year and it will. Normally any game (even more so sports games) that dare list the year in it in the name drop drastically in price once the year is over.
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handisnacks




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 11:59    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
everyone is saying its because of Atari being on the verge of bankruptcy... and i wouldn't be so quick to mock.

1.If u read thru the scene rules there is talk about how important everything is and how things should be done and groups follow most things to the letter!.. theres even founders of the scene rules mentioned in there and shit so some grps must take it very seriously.

2.why would a group take pride in putting a company out of buisness (if that is the case?) i think it would draw a lot of negative attention and plus these are intelligent ppl cracking these games. not the pirates u see at the local market selling game rips.

3. alone in the fucking dark..? Laughing why would a new "uncrackable" protection suddenly emerge with this POS game? or are u telling me Atari thought.. hrm our game is going to sell in the bloody millions, lets spend half our budget on protecting it.

4. go have a look in forums everywhere a lot of ppl are saying that Atari going under is the reason it hasn't been cracked but i still haven't seen anyone say that it def isn't.. why is that? theres just ppl like on here saying things like; do the scene care.

anyway i wouldn't be surprised if when its cracked there was a mention about it in the .nfo its not that hard to believe.

so i say yeah its possible.

*waits for all the smart ass replies from ppl who think they know it all*

I agree. I'm almost certain the reason why no major scene group has touched it is due to Atari's financial situation. Which to be honest, is quite noble. To bad the game really isn't worth it, however Sad

And I'm fairly certain, judging from all we know, I doubt there will be any individual who would be able to crack this protection by his/herself.

If you take a look at how Adobe does their Photoshop activation and protection it's almost just like this new SecuROM online activation. Yet, I still have the newest version(s) of Photoshop cracked on my PC... so yes, it can be done. But as stated earlier, I think the "scene" in general is giving Atari a break this time around.
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xardas96




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 12:20    Post subject:
handisnacks wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
everyone is saying its because of Atari being on the verge of bankruptcy... and i wouldn't be so quick to mock.

1.If u read thru the scene rules there is talk about how important everything is and how things should be done and groups follow most things to the letter!.. theres even founders of the scene rules mentioned in there and shit so some grps must take it very seriously.

2.why would a group take pride in putting a company out of buisness (if that is the case?) i think it would draw a lot of negative attention and plus these are intelligent ppl cracking these games. not the pirates u see at the local market selling game rips.

3. alone in the fucking dark..? Laughing why would a new "uncrackable" protection suddenly emerge with this POS game? or are u telling me Atari thought.. hrm our game is going to sell in the bloody millions, lets spend half our budget on protecting it.

4. go have a look in forums everywhere a lot of ppl are saying that Atari going under is the reason it hasn't been cracked but i still haven't seen anyone say that it def isn't.. why is that? theres just ppl like on here saying things like; do the scene care.

anyway i wouldn't be surprised if when its cracked there was a mention about it in the .nfo its not that hard to believe.

so i say yeah its possible.

*waits for all the smart ass replies from ppl who think they know it all*

I agree. I'm almost certain the reason why no major scene group has touched it is due to Atari's financial situation. Which to be honest, is quite noble. To bad the game really isn't worth it, however Sad

And I'm fairly certain, judging from all we know, I doubt there will be any individual who would be able to crack this protection by his/herself.

If you take a look at how Adobe does their Photoshop activation and protection it's almost just like this new SecuROM online activation. Yet, I still have the newest version(s) of Photoshop cracked on my PC... so yes, it can be done. But as stated earlier, I think the "scene" in general is giving Atari a break this time around.


And what about the 360 version? It was pirated after all... The "rules" don't apply to the consoles or what? Laughing
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boundle
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 12:37    Post subject:
@ handisnacks

adobe photoshop activation is totally different from the online securom of AITD5. here there is a mountain of triggers to remove from the securom exe to make working game and the online activation hinder that. it's similar only to bioshock or theatre of war. read some mine post over. scene groups crack all they can to crack. so wake up
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handisnacks




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 13:34    Post subject:
boundle wrote:
@ handisnacks

adobe photoshop activation is totally different from the online securom of AITD5. here there is a mountain of triggers to remove from the securom exe to make working game and the online activation hinder that. it's similar only to bioshock or theatre of war. read some mine post over. scene groups crack all they can to crack. so wake up

And no, the basic online (or "offline by phone/manually" i should say) activation of Adobe's products is very similar to the online/offline manual activation of AITD5. Yes the game itself has more triggers, but I'm merely talking about getting past the activation.

So when talking about triggers, Bioshock was cracked in a week... hmmm. Not to mention Mass Effect which took about a week or two as well. Rolling Eyes You're seriously going to sit there and tell me in the month or two release from Mass Effect until AITD5 they (SecuROM) managed to create some super-ultra-uncrackable patch/update to their product? Hahaha. OK

You need to stop being douchebags and "wake up." If they (the bigwigs of the scene) really wanted to crack this, they would have already.
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boundle
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 13:42    Post subject:
@ handisnacks

mass effect is a different version from this one or bioshock. bioshock securom online was bugged. the crack that Darkcoder have done was permit from this bug that now is been well fixed. the only crack was been made from out scene from this IND guy and it was not a crack anyway it was just a workaround (protection just intact and no one trigger removed into the exe). FLT cracks with the securom removed are both nukked and not work properly and Detonation patch 1.1 exe is taken from the steam downloadable version


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handisnacks




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 13:50    Post subject:
xardas96 wrote:
handisnacks wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
everyone is saying its because of Atari being on the verge of bankruptcy... and i wouldn't be so quick to mock.

1.If u read thru the scene rules there is talk about how important everything is and how things should be done and groups follow most things to the letter!.. theres even founders of the scene rules mentioned in there and shit so some grps must take it very seriously.

2.why would a group take pride in putting a company out of buisness (if that is the case?) i think it would draw a lot of negative attention and plus these are intelligent ppl cracking these games. not the pirates u see at the local market selling game rips.

3. alone in the fucking dark..? Laughing why would a new "uncrackable" protection suddenly emerge with this POS game? or are u telling me Atari thought.. hrm our game is going to sell in the bloody millions, lets spend half our budget on protecting it.

4. go have a look in forums everywhere a lot of ppl are saying that Atari going under is the reason it hasn't been cracked but i still haven't seen anyone say that it def isn't.. why is that? theres just ppl like on here saying things like; do the scene care.

anyway i wouldn't be surprised if when its cracked there was a mention about it in the .nfo its not that hard to believe.

so i say yeah its possible.

*waits for all the smart ass replies from ppl who think they know it all*

I agree. I'm almost certain the reason why no major scene group has touched it is due to Atari's financial situation. Which to be honest, is quite noble. To bad the game really isn't worth it, however Sad

And I'm fairly certain, judging from all we know, I doubt there will be any individual who would be able to crack this protection by his/herself.

If you take a look at how Adobe does their Photoshop activation and protection it's almost just like this new SecuROM online activation. Yet, I still have the newest version(s) of Photoshop cracked on my PC... so yes, it can be done. But as stated earlier, I think the "scene" in general is giving Atari a break this time around.

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And what about the 360 version? It was pirated after all... The "rules" don't apply to the consoles or what? Laughing

In response to this bit of ignorance, any fool can create a copy of a console game and run it in a modded console. The "scene" for consoles is completely different in that respect. Any idiot can "release" a game. Thus, even if there was some sort of standing agreement by groups to not release a game, some average joe will simply make a copy and release it.

It's completely different from the PC scene. Notice how we had average joe's releasing this game for PC as well, but with no crack (because they couldn't crack it).

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mass effect is different from this one or bioshock. bioshock securom online was bugged. the crack that Darkcoder have done was permit from this bug that now is been well fixed. the only crack was been made from out scene from this IND guy and it was not a crack anyway it was just a workaround (protection just intact into the exe and not removed). FLT cracks with the securom removed are both nukked and not work properly and Detonation patch 1.1 exe is taken from the steam downloadable version

Ok, well Mass Effect still got a proper working crack from VITALITY within 2 weeks of it's release. My point still stands.

You're seriously going to sit there and tell me in the month or two release from Mass Effect until AITD5 they (SecuROM) managed to create some super-ultra-uncrackable patch/update to their product?


The answer is no, they didn't.
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boundle
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 14:03    Post subject:
[QUOTE]You're seriously going to sit there and tell me in the month or two release from Mass Effect until AITD5 they (SecuROM) managed to create some super-ultra-uncrackable patch/update to their product?[/QUOTE]

maybe u don't have yet understand that don't exist only a kind of securom online. mass effect and spore creature edition have the same but this one is a bit different from AITD5. they don't have create any patch/update to update this but is just the scheme of securom that is different. it go to decrypt exe file one time u have installed it. and to decrypt it is need a valid serial
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 14:57    Post subject:
boundle wrote:
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You're seriously going to sit there and tell me in the month or two release from Mass Effect until AITD5 they (SecuROM) managed to create some super-ultra-uncrackable patch/update to their product?


maybe u don't have yet understand that don't exist only a kind of securom online. mass effect and spore creature edition have the same but this one is a bit different from AITD5. they don't have create any patch/update to update this but is just the scheme of securom that is different. it go to decrypt exe file one time u have installed it. and to decrypt it is need a valid serial


so what u are saying boundle is after looking at the different versions of securom, in ur EXPERT opinion this is just harder to crack? .. and ur also saying there is no chance whatsoever that it might not be cracked because of Atari having financial problems?

ur an asset to nforce, what would we do without u Rolling Eyes

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And what about the 360 version? It was pirated after all... The "rules" don't apply to the consoles or what?


lmao.. haha. i think handisnacks pretty much summed up everything i would have said about that. Laughing Laughing (wheres the dumbass smiley?)


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 15:03    Post subject:
@ Newty182

the difference is like between starforce, starforce pro and starforce frontline i think. i think that this version/kind of securom online is more hard to crack that the mass effect one. just there are many more triggers to remove and a different securom scheme with a different online check. mass effect don't use an activation revoke tool for DRM but AITD5 and bioshock yes. maybe crackers have also to hack this tool to get something working. the proofs there are with bioshock that was cracked with luck, not with a real crack and with securom totally removed cause the bug into the protection that it had. financials problems of Atari are no matter cause crackers crack everything they can crack
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 17:11    Post subject:
boundle i will say this the crack is allready made but it will not be released before fall 2008
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boundle
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 17:47    Post subject:
@ Spiderman

wait wait but if the crack was already made and ready it was now into all download sites. u think that also for splinter cell chaos theory ubi had financial problems when they released it? crack was out one year later lol


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MannyK




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 17:48    Post subject:
The crack will be released together with Duke Nukem Forever
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 18:39    Post subject:
MannyK wrote:
The crack will be released together with Duke Nukem Forever

great, it mean's that it will be out very very very soon;)
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jul 2008 19:43    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
ur an asset to nforce, what would we do without u Rolling Eyes

We would finally stop having AITD on the first page in the PC Games Arena and could move on...
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SuggarRay




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2008 02:05    Post subject:

Spiderman wrote:
boundle i will say this the crack is allready made but it will not be released before fall 2008


NuclearShadow wrote:
SuggarRay wrote:
interesting ^^ when the game costs 5$ ill buy it Laughing


Wait a year and it will. Normally any game (even more so sports games) that dare list the year in it in the name drop drastically in price once the year is over.

got it in another way Wink
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Thiefyo




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jul 2008 22:23    Post subject:
i loost my mood to play this game already still no crack bored of w8ting ... i will wait the other games :-<
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NPiracy
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jul 2008 22:27    Post subject:
Thiefyo wrote:
i loost my mood to play this game already still no crack bored of w8ting ... i will wait the other games :-<

and more games will use this protection Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 00:48    Post subject:
sad news hope our crak0rz will manage to crack this:)
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 04:30    Post subject:
NPiracy wrote:
Thiefyo wrote:
i loost my mood to play this game already still no crack bored of w8ting ... i will wait the other games :-<

and more games will use this protection Laughing


i hope so, and kiddies like u will disappear on forums like this Laughing


consoles have been invented for emptyheads
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EwarWoo1




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 05:15    Post subject:
So what we're trying to say, is despite all this bollocks everyone waffles on with (afraid to admit they steal) about piracy in no way affecting games sales, this ones not been pirated so the company makes more games sales?

Make your mind up, which is it?

The reason it's not been scene released is it's a pile of shit with a complicated copy protection system which just isn't worth their effort.

Doesn't necessarily mean it's uncrackable OR that they're trying to be nice to Atari.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 06:17    Post subject:
I'm interested in the sales of this game. Because if its rather low on PC then clearly this game can be a shining example that piracy doesn't affect the market and whenever anti piracy idiots like Npiracy start yapping we will just point to this shitty game and win with out another word.
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EwarWoo1




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 09:12    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
I'm interested in the sales of this game. Because if its rather low on PC then clearly this game can be a shining example that piracy doesn't affect the market and whenever anti piracy idiots like Npiracy start yapping we will just point to this shitty game and win with out another word.

Not really. It's just an example of a shit game that doesn't sell for that reason.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 09:24    Post subject:
arupa wrote:
NPiracy wrote:
Thiefyo wrote:
i loost my mood to play this game already still no crack bored of w8ting ... i will wait the other games :-<

and more games will use this protection Laughing


i hope so, and kiddies like u will disappear on forums like this Laughing


meybe yr a kiddies so fockk of nap mind yr game nap and u should go play mario leave this forum it will make this communitiy a favor;)
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 09:57    Post subject:
Thiefyo wrote:
arupa wrote:
NPiracy wrote:

and more games will use this protection Laughing


i hope so, and kiddies like u will disappear on forums like this Laughing


meybe yr a kiddies so fockk of nap mind yr game nap and u should go play mario leave this forum it will make this communitiy a favor;)



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