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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 08:53    Post subject:
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It isn't about them deciding for you if you can eat a greasy hamburger or not. It is about them using psychology and intence market reseach to exploit the maxium % of a population. It is a higher society that takes care somewhat of it's weakest.


Succinct thought, and 100% on par with my beliefs.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 09:02    Post subject:
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Korkin,
Stating that "Bitching about it on the internet is not going to change anything." is perhaps the biggest cop out you can pull on a forum. If you don't like hearing complaining, 1) Stop reading forums, 2) Stop reading forums titled the bitching section.

As for the REST of the shit you said, especially corporate responsibility, you obviously dont know what it means, and couldn't give a shit. What's your nationality? I suspect I know what it is, but I don't want to be prejudice.

(pm me your thought about my nationality and I'll pm you back if you're correct or not Smile)
I love reading the bitching section, I don't think it's there to change things, it's only there to allow people the opportunity to vent a little.



pistolshrimp wrote:

It isn't about them deciding for you if you can eat a greasy hamburger or not. It is about them using psychology and intence market reseach to exploit the maxium % of a population. It is a higher society that takes care somewhat of it's weakest.


You could be right about the corporate world exploiting human psychology to sell their stuff. I personally don't watch television and have ad block in my browser so I don't feel like any corporation is pressuring me into consuming their product but that doesn't mean they're not so you could be right there. Now, let's see... I think I had a macdonalds hamburger twice maybe three times in my life and I don't feel like I'm missing something.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 09:34    Post subject:
You are not missing MacDonalds because you never got into the habit. Kid get indocturned to that stuff as such a young age most do not question it.

Where I live in my area, I have at least 1 MacDonalds in a 3 blk radius.

I live with 2 blocks of 1 MacDonalds, 1 Lee's Fried chicken, 1 wendy's, 1 burger king, 2 doughnut stores, and 3 liquour stores. 5 if we are talking about 4 blocks. Turn on my car radio and it is suggestion after suggestion to eat their crap.


I had this friend and she said one day. Look this bag of chips have no trans fat. We can eat the whole bag and not feel guilty. Somehow she thought this wouldn't make someone fat? It true that eating food low in trans fats is better for you, but it is false that you can eat a whole friggen bag and NOT get FAT.

Sometimes someones will power is as strong as a hearing an excuse or a suggestion. We then except these people to stop this bad habit which is a feat. Then they actually reduce their diet to 1200 calories a day which is pretty unrealistic when they are bombarded with incorrect information about what it is they are actually eating.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 09:46    Post subject:
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I live with 2 blocks of 1 MacDonalds, 1 Lee's Fried chicken, 1 wendy's, 1 burger king, 2 doughnut stores, and 3 liquour stores. 5 if we are talking about 4 blocks.

Seriously? We might get that type of arrangement in a mall or something similar. Do you live in a mall? I highly doubt that, that's some messed up stuff.

Who opens up a second doughnut shop or a third liquor store? What do they do? Steal each others costumers?
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 10:00    Post subject:
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I live with 2 blocks of 1 MacDonalds, 1 Lee's Fried chicken, 1 wendy's, 1 burger king, 2 doughnut stores, and 3 liquour stores. 5 if we are talking about 4 blocks.

Seriously? We might get that type of arrangement in a mall or something similar. Do you live in a mall? I highly doubt that, that's some messed up stuff.

Who opens up a second doughnut shop or a third liquor store? What do they do? Steal each others costumers?


Nope, people don't want to wait in line, and everyone's fat and lazy so they just divide equally among them... it's really fucked dude.


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I live with 2 blocks of 1 MacDonalds, 1 Lee's Fried chicken, 1 wendy's, 1 burger king, 2 doughnut stores, and 3 liquour stores. 5 if we are talking about 4 blocks.

Seriously? We might get that type of arrangement in a mall or something similar. Do you live in a mall? I highly doubt that, that's some messed up stuff.

Who opens up a second doughnut shop or a third liquor store? What do they do? Steal each others costumers?


No, I live in a residential area. Mostly Houses with basement suits. More condo's going up all the time so the area is becoming more dense. It is called urban sprall. In one shopping plaza 2 blks away are the MacDonalds, Lee's fried chicken, I forgot about the Subway Sandwich shop and a Starbucks. Oh and a deep friend Fish and Chip place. In that place there are 2 pizza places and 2 more across the street so 4 within .25 km of each other. There is also 4 somosa and sweet Indian shops. There is also a Itailian Restaurant and a Cananadian Chineese food place. 3 blocks away is a Toco Bell and 1 blk from that is a Toco Time. Oh and a Arbies.

It is like phlux said. People don't like line ups. Plus one is always more popular due to marketing.

With all this shit out people never even think of walking into a grocery store and buying a piece of fruit and yogurt. When people get hungy they think Big Mac meal. That is like 900 calories.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 11:34    Post subject:
All finnish schools serve free hot meals for the children during the school day, and thinking of the alternative where kids would eat snacks or bring their own lunches (which of course can be healthy if parents cba to prepare it health-consciously, but that's hardly always the case), I think it's a really good thing to have.
Finnish school-aged children are the most fit in Europe with only 10% of children classified overweight, but later on we pick up bad habits and as adults we're 3rd fattest in Europe. Meh. Razz

Guess it just shows we don't really know what's the best for us - IMO they should just tax the hell out of all fatty foods, if you want to be a fatass and thus be a burden to the society, you'll have to pay for it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 11:51    Post subject:
I've always agreed with that. Taxing fast food just forces people to eat healthy. Like taxing cigarettes. I wish they'd triple the taxes on cigarettes honestly. I hate the fact I pay taxes for some asshole with lung cancer taking up a hospital bed.

Harsh I know, but honestly, if you can't look after yourself in the simplest of ways, you deserve to pay more.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 12:05    Post subject:
*some asshole with lung cancer from smoking
Fixed it for ya. Smile Not all lung cancer patients are smokers
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 12:11    Post subject:
I wouldn't care if they banned smoking world wide Razz

Nicotine isn't any more addictive than sugar for example. I guess its hard to quit because you see other people smoke, and its hard to say no. If no one did it, people wouldn't care.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 12:14    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
I've always agreed with that. Taxing fast food just forces people to eat healthy. Like taxing cigarettes. I wish they'd triple the taxes on cigarettes honestly. I hate the fact I pay taxes for some asshole with lung cancer taking up a hospital bed.

Harsh I know, but honestly, if you can't look after yourself in the simplest of ways, you deserve to pay more.


The ones that are addicted would still continue to buy them, prob at the expence of their family. It might stop people from picking up the habit. It isn't socially accepted here in the better parts. The snobby parts of the city see it as a weak thing to do.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 12:22    Post subject:
Then only the rich will smoke and only the rich will die..Hmph needs more thought Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 12:50    Post subject:
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Phluxed wrote:
I've always agreed with that. Taxing fast food just forces people to eat healthy. Like taxing cigarettes. I wish they'd triple the taxes on cigarettes honestly. I hate the fact I pay taxes for some asshole with lung cancer taking up a hospital bed.

Harsh I know, but honestly, if you can't look after yourself in the simplest of ways, you deserve to pay more.


The ones that are addicted would still continue to buy them, prob at the expence of their family. It might stop people from picking up the habit. It isn't socially accepted here in the better parts. The snobby parts of the city see it as a weak thing to do.


Strange, the snobby parts here are all about smoking... They still think its cool. Then let their families implore them to stop smoking.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 13:08    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:
Phluxed wrote:
I've always agreed with that. Taxing fast food just forces people to eat healthy. Like taxing cigarettes. I wish they'd triple the taxes on cigarettes honestly. I hate the fact I pay taxes for some asshole with lung cancer taking up a hospital bed.

Harsh I know, but honestly, if you can't look after yourself in the simplest of ways, you deserve to pay more.


The ones that are addicted would still continue to buy them, prob at the expence of their family. It might stop people from picking up the habit. It isn't socially accepted here in the better parts. The snobby parts of the city see it as a weak thing to do.


Strange, the snobby parts here are all about smoking... They still think its cool. Then let their families implore them to stop smoking.


Smoking and fatness is seen as low class here.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 13:19    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
Phluxed wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:


The ones that are addicted would still continue to buy them, prob at the expence of their family. It might stop people from picking up the habit. It isn't socially accepted here in the better parts. The snobby parts of the city see it as a weak thing to do.


Strange, the snobby parts here are all about smoking... They still think its cool. Then let their families implore them to stop smoking.


Smoking and fatness is seen as low class here.


Yea its low class for some as well... but I live in a really wealthy town and theres like upper class that thinks its shitty, but still do it, and the upper upper class just smoke as much as they want... its like doctors treat doctors here, and they smoke.. a lot.. lol


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 14:34    Post subject:
korkin wrote:
Seriously? We might get that type of arrangement in a mall or something similar. Do you live in a mall? I highly doubt that, that's some messed up stuff.

Who opens up a second doughnut shop or a third liquor store? What do they do? Steal each others costumers?


You must not live in a highly populated area.... In my city we have 10 Dunkin Donuts alone I'm not exaggerating either it is exactly 10 and my city isn't even large so your always near one. I have two that are just a a few streets away.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 15:34    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
Phluxed wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:


The ones that are addicted would still continue to buy them, prob at the expence of their family. It might stop people from picking up the habit. It isn't socially accepted here in the better parts. The snobby parts of the city see it as a weak thing to do.


Strange, the snobby parts here are all about smoking... They still think its cool. Then let their families implore them to stop smoking.


Smoking and fatness is seen as low class here.


umm, not according to my boy who lives in Vancouver (whom Im visiting in a few months). According to him, everyone smokes.

But about the fat people, your right Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 16:18    Post subject:
Are there countries in the world that don't consider fatness as a low class? (excluding third world countries of course)
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 16:45    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
Yea its low class for some as well... but I live in a really wealthy town and theres like upper class that thinks its shitty, but still do it, and the upper upper class just smoke as much as they want... its like doctors treat doctors here, and they smoke.. a lot.. lol



http://www.cancercare.on.ca/english/csqi2008/csqi-lhinhome/csqi-missihal/

your area is healthier than the province (those stats include Mississauga and Oakville) Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 18:15    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:

I think that quite of people who are overweight have a type of mental illness. It is an eating disorder if you think about it. A disorder of eating that affects their life in negitive way. They have no impulse control. I bet a lot of them also suffered from depression even before they reached the huge sizes. Just think about what low self esteem you must have to let yourself get into the 300's lbs and up. The more fat you got, the worse you would feel emotional and physically. I bet alot of them aren't really aware of what they really look like except they know they are "really fat" .

Ohhh pooor fat kids Crying or Very sad , they have an eating disorder Crying or Very sad ... My heart is bleeding Laughing Laughing Laughing
Its funny how americans blame everyhing on mental illnesses, various disorders If your stupid and lazy and cant do shit at school you become dyslectic, if your fat then you must have an eating disorder etc.
If the adults are fat/stupid themselves how do you think they gonna raise up their children?
Laughing "I am not fat I am american" Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 00:09    Post subject:
Something about what the americans eat and drink is really fucked up... Like their drinks- mountain dew and gatorade. Seriously gatorade looks and tastes like it was made of nuclear waste.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 00:44    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
Phluxed wrote:
Yea its low class for some as well... but I live in a really wealthy town and theres like upper class that thinks its shitty, but still do it, and the upper upper class just smoke as much as they want... its like doctors treat doctors here, and they smoke.. a lot.. lol



http://www.cancercare.on.ca/english/csqi2008/csqi-lhinhome/csqi-missihal/

your area is healthier than the province (those stats include Mississauga and Oakville) Smile


I can tell you for my agegroup, early 20s, smoking is really popular... sadly. And I know at my former highschool, its more popular than it was when I was going there.


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 05:46    Post subject:
frno wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:

I think that quite of people who are overweight have a type of mental illness. It is an eating disorder if you think about it. A disorder of eating that affects their life in negitive way. They have no impulse control. I bet a lot of them also suffered from depression even before they reached the huge sizes. Just think about what low self esteem you must have to let yourself get into the 300's lbs and up. The more fat you got, the worse you would feel emotional and physically. I bet alot of them aren't really aware of what they really look like except they know they are "really fat" .

Ohhh pooor fat kids Crying or Very sad , they have an eating disorder Crying or Very sad ... My heart is bleeding Laughing Laughing Laughing
Its funny how americans blame everyhing on mental illnesses, various disorders If your stupid and lazy and cant do shit at school you become dyslectic, if your fat then you must have an eating disorder etc.
If the adults are fat/stupid themselves how do you think they gonna raise up their children?




What is it that you don’t understand of a mental illness? I am not talking about a bleeding heart btw. Education ftw!!!
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 06:02    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
frno wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:

I think that quite of people who are overweight have a type of mental illness. It is an eating disorder if you think about it. A disorder of eating that affects their life in negitive way. They have no impulse control. I bet a lot of them also suffered from depression even before they reached the huge sizes. Just think about what low self esteem you must have to let yourself get into the 300's lbs and up. The more fat you got, the worse you would feel emotional and physically. I bet alot of them aren't really aware of what they really look like except they know they are "really fat" .

Ohhh pooor fat kids Crying or Very sad , they have an eating disorder Crying or Very sad ... My heart is bleeding Laughing Laughing Laughing
Its funny how americans blame everyhing on mental illnesses, various disorders If your stupid and lazy and cant do shit at school you become dyslectic, if your fat then you must have an eating disorder etc.
If the adults are fat/stupid themselves how do you think they gonna raise up their children?




What is it that you don’t understand of a mental illness? I am not talking about a bleeding heart btw. Education ftw!!!


Laughing I think this is the meanest I have ever saw you on the forums. Whats even better is your 100% right.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 06:45    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:
frno wrote:

Ohhh pooor fat kids Crying or Very sad , they have an eating disorder Crying or Very sad ... My heart is bleeding Laughing Laughing Laughing
Its funny how americans blame everyhing on mental illnesses, various disorders If your stupid and lazy and cant do shit at school you become dyslectic, if your fat then you must have an eating disorder etc.
If the adults are fat/stupid themselves how do you think they gonna raise up their children?




What is it that you don’t understand of a mental illness? I am not talking about a bleeding heart btw. Education ftw!!!


Laughing I think this is the meanest I have ever saw you on the forums. Whats even better is your 100% right.



Thanks. Usually being mean doesn't serve any true purpose except being selfish. Sometimes you just have to call it as you see it. Hence the 'meanest' in this post.

(I still think I have said much more meaner posts in the past)
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 14:34    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
frno wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:

I think that quite of people who are overweight have a type of mental illness. It is an eating disorder if you think about it. A disorder of eating that affects their life in negitive way. They have no impulse control. I bet a lot of them also suffered from depression even before they reached the huge sizes. Just think about what low self esteem you must have to let yourself get into the 300's lbs and up. The more fat you got, the worse you would feel emotional and physically. I bet alot of them aren't really aware of what they really look like except they know they are "really fat" .

Ohhh pooor fat kids Crying or Very sad , they have an eating disorder Crying or Very sad ... My heart is bleeding Laughing Laughing Laughing
Its funny how americans blame everyhing on mental illnesses, various disorders If your stupid and lazy and cant do shit at school you become dyslectic, if your fat then you must have an eating disorder etc.
If the adults are fat/stupid themselves how do you think they gonna raise up their children?




What is it that you don’t understand of a mental illness? I am not talking about a bleeding heart btw. Education ftw!!!


You do realise that clinically, obesity is not considered a psychiatric illness. Certain conditions, illnesses and medications can increase the potential risk of developing obesity; but the fundamental cause is excessive calorie consumption and a sedentary lifestyle.

The major reason for the obesity epidemic has nothing to do with increasing rates of mental illness or genetic predisposition, it's onset is too rapid for those to be a factor. It's the prevalence of high energy/high fat convenience food, minimally physically active jobs and the use of cars as the primary form of transport.

Pistol don't take away the fact that in the majority of cases these people are responsible for their condition. Or do you think that someone who is a pedophile is simply at the mercy of their urges and shouldn't be punished?

Why is it hard to accept that some people are just too weak to resist their self destructive tendencies? Drug addicts are the epitome of this aspect of the human condition.


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Fat kids are fat and I don't hate them for it and I don't think they should be considered disgusting or weak or compared to drug addicts and pedophiles. So they're fat? Big fucking deal No matter the reason why they're fat and there are a lot of different reason people could be fat, it's their life and I don't think any one stranger has any right to tell them how to live, without them asking you for your opinion.

Many people can say "Oh well those fat people are a burden on society and I pay taxes why should I pay money so they could be fat?" Well guess what? That's the price of FREEDOM! They're free to be fat and you're free to do whatever is your vice. Trust me your tax money is being flushed down the toilet in more ways than one and fat people are just a small chunk of it.

I'm not posting this to change any ones opinion on the matter, because to be honest if I did change one persons view on fat people, there will be another million who would love to put all fats into a room and gas them.

What I think about the government involvement? I think they should offer an option for fats to lose weight but never to force it down peoples throat. I mean America since 9/11 has been forcing a lot of shit down peoples throat and they don't seem too happy about it.

Last thing; Saying fat people suck is stupid cause the majority of us have a friend who is fat and would you call your friend names? If yes; some friend you are! If no; well that's hypocritical.

I'm done, thank you Smile No disrespect to thin or fat people Exclamation
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If an individual has a characteristic they dislike about themselves, that is within their power to change, yet they do nothing, they are weak. At the least they should expect no sympathy.

Of course if they are happy with their condition then it is simply a choice they have made.


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 16:56    Post subject:
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Fat kids are fat and I don't hate them for it and I don't think they should be considered disgusting or weak or compared to drug addicts and pedophiles. So they're fat? Big fucking deal No matter the reason why they're fat and there are a lot of different reason people could be fat, it's their life and I don't think any one stranger has any right to tell them how to live, without them asking you for your opinion.

Many people can say "Oh well those fat people are a burden on society and I pay taxes why should I pay money so they could be fat?" Well guess what? That's the price of FREEDOM! They're free to be fat and you're free to do whatever is your vice. Trust me your tax money is being flushed down the toilet in more ways than one and fat people are just a small chunk of it.

I'm not posting this to change any ones opinion on the matter, because to be honest if I did change one persons view on fat people, there will be another million who would love to put all fats into a room and gas them.

What I think about the government involvement? I think they should offer an option for fats to lose weight but never to force it down peoples throat. I mean America since 9/11 has been forcing a lot of shit down peoples throat and they don't seem too happy about it.

Last thing; Saying fat people suck is stupid cause the majority of us have a friend who is fat and would you call your friend names? If yes; some friend you are! If no; well that's hypocritical.

I'm done, thank you Smile No disrespect to thin or fat people Exclamation


Most children don't have the choice in what they eat. Many have no idea whats healthy and whats not until middle school where health class really starts teaching things and by then habits have grown and the school can't possibly pull them out of it. Nor do they have the choice of what they eat even then.

I don't hate them either I feel sorry for them they are the victims of bad parenting. As much as I am for freedom your whole
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it's their life and I don't think any one stranger has any right to tell them how to live
They are kids! They have to be told what to do and be taught whats right and wrong about everything. We are suppose to direct our children's lives on the right course and let them go when they are older and hope they do the right things. We can't just stop telling kids what they can and can not do it would be pure chaos and that chaos would follow them right into adulthood.


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Many people can say "Oh well those fat people are a burden on society and I pay taxes why should I pay money so they could be fat?"


I would pay even more taxes to see them become healthy and educated and pass it down to their children. Its the kids I'm worried about because so many are overweight and obese already and even more will be once they become adults. We are already at 64% overweight almost half of those 64% are obese! Once these current generation of children become adults will we be up to 70%? more? What about my future grand children's generation?

How will the country possibly operate in this situation? Peoples health will be so low that even in my elderly years I will probably be in better physical health than the average young adult. Thats god damn scary to me the thought that I can possibly outlive my future grand children's friends or at least some of them.

What about jobs that take physically fit people to get the job done as well? Our military will have to rely on drafts targeting the much smaller % of people average or even under weight. Is that a cost of freedom as well to you? Forced military service is anything but freedom I was in the army and would never wish people to be forced into it. These drafts will effect other jobs even more because now even less physically fit people are in the workforce.

This upsets me because I care. I've never said fat people suck or that they should be gassed like you accuse me of. I simply want to see a healthier world even more so with my own nation because its gotten so bad and seems to only be getting worse. Things need to change and that changed needs to target our children. Laws should be made and enforced to make it happen.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2008 17:54    Post subject:
fat kids are mostly arrogant too
genocide , anyone?

funny thing is I can eat ALL I want and can't get fat no matter how much I eat or drink
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