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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 11:08    Post subject:
I see that the shaders and bloom isn't overused like in consoles
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 12:51    Post subject:
oh man, can't wait for this game, the MP will be awsome.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 17:34    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
I see that the shaders and bloom isn't overused like in consoles


That'll be a matter of choice... Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 17:45    Post subject:
Yes, I rather like over-bright bloom and blur, I think it's stylized and fits some games, like GTA4, very well.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 21:26    Post subject:
new screenshots:

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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 21:27    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
FireMaster wrote:
I see that the shaders and bloom isn't overused like in consoles


That'll be a matter of choice... Rolling Eyes

Its not a matter of choice but the cards render style , when you compare the color style of PS3 to Xbox360 you can see that Ps3 has more realistic type of color (more blue styled colors ) scheme then x360 (more bloom and more orange color themed colors ) .

PS3 has a Nvidia chip so they pick the PS3 color style and render to the PC version

o and this pic http://gtareactor.planet-multiplayer.de/gtareactor/img/gallery/full/1652.jpg can't be from the PC version , just look at the trees in the background , buildings textures in the back , and the roads with no AA looks more like a pic from ps3 version with the Blue style color scheme
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 21:45    Post subject:
Those are not PC shots. They may be 1920x1200, but anyone with common sense can see they are just 1280x720 pics blown (upscaled) to higher res. Why do people keep posting them?
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 22:04    Post subject:
they post them because the where from IGN PC GTA4 site
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 00:06    Post subject:
Screenshots are pointless wherever they come from, i'll make a judgement when i see the game running infront of me
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 05:16    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
Its not a matter of choice but the cards render style


LOL, video cards don't define color palettes. Rolling Eyes
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 05:42    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
FireMaster wrote:
I see that the shaders and bloom isn't overused like in consoles


That'll be a matter of choice... Rolling Eyes

Its not a matter of choice but the cards render style , when you compare the color style of PS3 to Xbox360 you can see that Ps3 has more realistic type of color (more blue styled colors ) scheme then x360 (more bloom and more orange color themed colors ) .

PS3 has a Nvidia chip so they pick the PS3 color style and render to the PC version


What I meant was, with the PC version you should be able to customize the appearance of the game to suit your tastes. Some people like loads of bloom and shaders.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 07:01    Post subject:
hope it will work very well on my system at high details@1440x900@AAx4 Rolling Eyes
i'll upgrade to an 9800GT from 9600GT just 2 be sure Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 07:55    Post subject:
polosistealth wrote:
hope it will work very well on my system at high details@1440x900@AAx4 Rolling Eyes
i'll upgrade to an 9800GT from 9600GT just 2 be sure Smile



Should be more than enough. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 10:49    Post subject:
polosistealth wrote:
hope it will work very well on my system at high details@1440x900@AAx4 Rolling Eyes
i'll upgrade to an 9800GT from 9600GT just 2 be sure Smile


Why did you get a 9600GT in the first place? Instead of say an 8800GTS?


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 11:42    Post subject:
Leftos wrote:
polosistealth wrote:
hope it will work very well on my system at high details@1440x900@AAx4 Rolling Eyes
i'll upgrade to an 9800GT from 9600GT just 2 be sure Smile


Why did you get a 9600GT in the first place? Instead of say an 8800GTS?


who is stupid enough to buy nvidia these days when ATI's new cards are both cheaper AND faster than even the most expensive cards from nvidia? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 11:47    Post subject:
Because, to be fair, ATi have been consistent losers in the GPU battle for many years now. It's only recently, with the advent of the 4800 series, that they've stormed ahead. I guess it takes people a while to forget about the past Smile

Personally? I'm never buying nVidia again. I'm sick of their policies regarding releasing "new and improved" revisions of their cards less than 3 months after their last release. Screw that.
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 11:56    Post subject:
Yeah screw progression.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 12:00    Post subject:
Ati already gained a significant leap with the introduction of the 3800 series. Affordable, fast, less power consuming and crossfire combinations were cheaper and faster than the top range nvidia model at that time.

The 4870 is the continuation of this development and they have improved even more. Ati is the one that's progressing here Karmeck, not nvidia. Nvidia just sat around waiting for far too long and were shown the bitter truth that rival companies can kick you in the face when they're lying on their backs.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 12:30    Post subject:
Flowmo wrote:
Ati already gained a significant leap with the introduction of the 3800 series. Affordable, fast, less power consuming and crossfire combinations were cheaper and faster than the top range nvidia model at that time.

The 4870 is the continuation of this development and they have improved even more. Ati is the one that's progressing here Karmeck, not nvidia. Nvidia just sat around waiting for far too long and were shown the bitter truth that rival companies can kick you in the face when they're lying on their backs.


Fucking A!

You call releasing yet ANOTHER derivative of the same fucking card PROGRESSION!? Yeah, that's logical.

Let's list them in order of release, shall we hmm?

8800GTX
8800Ultra
8800GTS-320
8800GTS-640
8800GT-G92
8800GTS-G92
8800GTS-G80-512
8800GSO
8800GS
9800GX2
9800GTX
9800GTX+
9800GT
9800GSO
9800GS

... I'm sorry, k whut? That's progression is it? The 4870 is faster than every one of those, except the GX2, and it costs less too! One card, costing less and with a more efficient design, beats nVidia's ENTIRE 8800 and 9800 range. The 4850 is also faster than every card there with the exception of the GX2 and the Ultra in *some* tests, but not all.

Now what are nVidia doing? Oh yes, once again; rehashing the same fucking card and releasing it LESS than 3 months after their last one! The GTX-280 hasn't been out a QUARTER yet .. and now nV are saying "Oh sorry, teehee, that card is obsolete now... here, have our new one. Lower fabrication and GDDR5 instead of GDDR3, but it's still the same card. What's that? Can you have a rebate or a refund? hahahaha, oh my no..."

Fuck you and your fucking "progression"


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 12:51    Post subject:
Nvidia got the lead in the market for more than 1 year with the G80 8800 series; I guess they thought ATI wouldn't come back from the HD2900 fiasco so they got sloppy.

Serves them right now.
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 13:41    Post subject:
every dam ati card i owned had shaders or shadow problems with 10% of my games. from ati rage to ati hd3xxx. even if they fixed that with the 4xxx, screw em


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 14:29    Post subject:
That's not their fault. You just have bad luck.

Which is kinda like me and PC Hardware. Almost 70% of the hardware I buy always have defects which means I have to have them RMA'd or replaced or whatever, which costs me more in shipping.

Doesn't stop me from making rational choices.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 14:31    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:

Which is kinda like me and PC Hardware. Almost 70% of the hardware I buy always have defects


you and everyone else, funny thing is everyone thinks it's his bad fucking luck while it's the manufacturers's faulty scam
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 15:10    Post subject:
i think its both. although some of the problems with shaders and stuff are/were experienced by ALL ati hd users. games like penumbra overture or escape from paradise island or, older - soldier of fortune I+II. facts.
and then, if you add bad luck like artifacts in crysis, cubes instead of shadows in timeshift or blacksite.. you get 1 f-kin unhappy customer
so stop bashing nvidia Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 15:24    Post subject:
I have to agree on one thing; ATi's support for OpenGL was, and in some cases still is, poorly implemented. Soldier of Fortune 1 works great, as does Elite Force 1 and Quake 3 -- yet the same can't be said for SoF2, Elite Force 2 or Q3-Arena. I, myself, am desperately trying to get SoF2/EF2 working on my 4850, but having limited success Sad

As for the Crysis issues? Non-existent for me. Crysis looks perfect and runs a considerable amount faster than it did on my 8800GT.

The way I see it, both companies have their benefits and drawbacks - my decision to "bash" nVidia comes not from their hardware, but their sales policy.
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 17:15    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:
Yeah screw progression.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 19:38    Post subject:
And now back on topic shall we.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 19:55    Post subject:
What topic? GTA4 is coming to PC, yay, but what is there to talk about? Not even one PC screenshot is out.
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 20:01    Post subject:
talking about hardware and game graphics is in-topic
it's PC gaming not consoles , hardware is important
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Aug 2008 20:05    Post subject:
oki im on, Nvidia rules.


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