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Sin317
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the first miss-conception is to call cannabis products "drugs". Alcohol is far worse, and its legal. And the unhealthy part is the tobacco, not the cannabis.
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glad i stopped smoking that lazy grass. time is going by and you just dont notice it
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SycoShaman
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| Razacka2 wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | Used to smoke alot of ganja but i quit about a year and a half ago now. Only drug i do now is cigarettes |
Planing on quitting on cig's as well mate ? |
Yep. They arent doing me any good and im wasting money on em. Ive tried patches and gum so my doc recommend some medication that costs an arm and a leg for. So once i have a spare couple of hundred, im gunna get a few months supply and try and stop |
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$en$i
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Support81
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Aug 2008 22:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Aug 2008 23:11 Post subject: |
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i hate how governments establish discriminating laws for smokers...
though lately germany lightened the law by allowing smoking in smaller pubs, as about 55-60% of adults smoke there
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 00:16 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | the first miss-conception is to call cannabis products "drugs". Alcohol is far worse, and its legal. And the unhealthy part is the tobacco, not the cannabis. |
I read that and ... I was prettttty much shocked you'd confuse tobacco and cannabis, then I wondered, I wonder if he smokes his weed with tobacco? Then I thought no, he didn't state that he did or anything... so wtf?
The unhealthy part about smoking marijuana is the carcigens that enter your lungs from smoking it. It causes your lungs to get damaged and have to heal, which highly increases your risk of cancer. The arguement as to which is worse for you is fucking ridiculous. There are WAY more carcigens entering your system when you smoke a joint than when you smoke a cigarette. However, because its natural, there are no chemicals interferring with your cells reproducing and thus creating cancer.
Basically, the big antipot selling point these days is that it has something like 3x as many carcigens entering your lungs as cigarettes and thus are a bigger risk for cancer, however, they fail to explain that cigarettes are putting chemicals in your lungs which increases the chances of cancer.....
So yea....
Also, the reason weed is illegal is because it is easy to grow and it makes it difficult for governments to tax. Alcohol is legal because governments can make a lot of money from it.
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 00:20 Post subject: |
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| Phluxed wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | | the first miss-conception is to call cannabis products "drugs". Alcohol is far worse, and its legal. And the unhealthy part is the tobacco, not the cannabis. |
I read that and ... I was prettttty much shocked you'd confuse tobacco and cannabis, then I wondered, I wonder if he smokes his weed with tobacco? Then I thought no, he didn't state that he did or anything... so wtf?
The unhealthy part about smoking marijuana is the carcigens that enter your lungs from smoking it. It causes your lungs to get damaged and have to heal, which highly increases your risk of cancer. The arguement as to which is worse for you is fucking ridiculous. There are WAY more carcigens entering your system when you smoke a joint than when you smoke a cigarette. However, because its natural, there are no chemicals interferring with your cells reproducing and thus creating cancer.
Basically, the big antipot selling point these days is that it has something like 3x as many carcigens entering your lungs as cigarettes and thus are a bigger risk for cancer, however, they fail to explain that cigarettes are putting chemicals in your lungs which increases the chances of cancer.....
So yea....
Also, the reason weed is illegal is because it is easy to grow and it makes it difficult for governments to tax. Alcohol is legal because governments can make a lot of money from it. |
it may have 3x as many carcinogens but how much you expose yourself to matters. For instance, there is like what ... an ounce of tobacco in a pack of cigarettes? So if smokers are actually smoking 5-10x as much, then they are actually worse off (exposure = intensity x duration). But throw individual genetics into the mix and you can't really say much then either.
My mom brings this argument up all the time  So yeah, I guess they key word is always Moderation 
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 01:11 Post subject: |
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smoked cigars and light drugs since my 16 , left all that benhid a few years ago , light drugs when i was 25 , cigars 4 years ago im 31 , since i stop , i notice a lot of changes , i breath bether , gain a few pounds , i can run further.
well i think it was one of the best things a did ,stop.
| Sin317 wrote: | | while you can't "turn gay", you can cut off your balls. believe me, you'll never think of women again. |
| zmed wrote: | | Or just a defense mechanism. If you fart, you'll most definitely smell it so your brain tells you it ain't bad as strangerfarts. |
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Aug 2008 11:35 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | Phluxed wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | | the first miss-conception is to call cannabis products "drugs". Alcohol is far worse, and its legal. And the unhealthy part is the tobacco, not the cannabis. |
I read that and ... I was prettttty much shocked you'd confuse tobacco and cannabis, then I wondered, I wonder if he smokes his weed with tobacco? Then I thought no, he didn't state that he did or anything... so wtf?
The unhealthy part about smoking marijuana is the carcigens that enter your lungs from smoking it. It causes your lungs to get damaged and have to heal, which highly increases your risk of cancer. The arguement as to which is worse for you is fucking ridiculous. There are WAY more carcigens entering your system when you smoke a joint than when you smoke a cigarette. However, because its natural, there are no chemicals interferring with your cells reproducing and thus creating cancer.
Basically, the big antipot selling point these days is that it has something like 3x as many carcigens entering your lungs as cigarettes and thus are a bigger risk for cancer, however, they fail to explain that cigarettes are putting chemicals in your lungs which increases the chances of cancer.....
So yea....
Also, the reason weed is illegal is because it is easy to grow and it makes it difficult for governments to tax. Alcohol is legal because governments can make a lot of money from it. |
it may have 3x as many carcinogens but how much you expose yourself to matters. For instance, there is like what ... an ounce of tobacco in a pack of cigarettes? So if smokers are actually smoking 5-10x as much, then they are actually worse off (exposure = intensity x duration). But throw individual genetics into the mix and you can't really say much then either.
My mom brings this argument up all the time So yeah, I guess they key word is always Moderation |
I read your post and it seemed like you missed the entire direction of it.... had nothing to do with the amount of carcigens per say, it was more directed at the damage the chemicals do to the healing process (which is what cancer is, mutated cells).
I don't smoke anything anymore. (recent thing, health kick)
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Aug 2008 10:38 Post subject: |
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| Phluxed wrote: | I read your post and it seemed like you missed the entire direction of it.... had nothing to do with the amount of carcigens per say, it was more directed at the damage the chemicals do to the healing process (which is what cancer is, mutated cells).
I don't smoke anything anymore. (recent thing, health kick) |
for sure, both damage the lungs, and non-stop damage/healing is what eventually leads to mutated cells.
my point was simply that smokers exposure themselves to these carcinogens more often than marijuana smokers.
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gobo
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Sep 2008 17:08 Post subject: |
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I smoke weed all the time infact im high right now.... But seriously there must be alot of 10 yr olds on this site to have this many people who never smoked up a fat blunt before.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2008 02:20 Post subject: |
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| gobo wrote: | | I smoke weed all the time infact im high right now.... But seriously there must be alot of 10 yr olds on this site to have this many people who never smoked up a fat blunt before. |
Alot of people smoke ganja on here man
I myself was a pothead, a serious one up until well, for sure, a year ago. Decided to stop. Didnt find it interesting anymore.
Still, i wont lie, I do on special occasions (friends bdays, big parties/concerts and at christmas) I smoke a few blunts to get into the mood you know
But I dont link anymore you know. I threw out all my expensive glass bongs, well, gave alot of them away, destroyed my plastic bongs and threw out the heaps of zig zags I have laying around.
I maybe smoke once a month, sometimes once every 2 months |
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2008 03:47 Post subject: |
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| gobo wrote: | | I smoke weed all the time infact im high right now.... But seriously there must be alot of 10 yr olds on this site to have this many people who never smoked up a fat blunt before. |
Just because someone hasn't done it or has decided not too doesn't make them immature.
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Any withdrawals from that Syco? Insomnia, irritability and such.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Sep 2008 05:15 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Any withdrawals from that Syco? Insomnia, irritability and such. |
Yeah, it was a bad month. Constant irratibility and I couldnt sleep and had a hard time eating.
Now eveything is fine. My diet is back to normal, my head is clear, i have alot more energy, i dont every end up looking stupid infont of women...well, unless your trying to pick up a super hottie, then I get a little nervous.
The weed stopping was the worse. It causes anxiety but it only last for a month. Now, I barely smoke weed. Like i dont EVER grab weed or buy it. Like i said, if its a friends birthday or new years or something, then ya, I will smoke a spliff but only one and thats it.
Weed is by far the hardest soft drug to quite. The withdrawl symptoms are horrible dude. You get depressed and you feel like shit.
But it was something I had to do. i had to straighten up. I just reach a breaking point you know? I couldnt take being high all the time. I needed to try sobriety and I found out its alot more enjoyable than being stoned all the time
And you know my drug abuse background so Im qualified to speak about what were talking about you?
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For me it wasn't like that all. The weed. I couldn't sleep for a few days, like 3 or 4 and had really strange dreams. I felt kinda hot. Then it went back to normal after 4 days. It was the habit of it that was the hardest. I was so used to doing it at night that was when I missed it. I felt the boredom more. The other person I know that quit around the same time had it even easier time then me. My sister can't and it really bugs her when she has to go on holidays and she can't do it. She has an addictive personality. She is addicted to like 4 or 5 cans of coke a day and she goes nuts if she can't have it.
For me I found if I got a craving I would start to read a book. My hands were busy holding and flipping pages and I the time flew by.
You are soo lucky to not to be caught up in the other stuff. That is why I wouldn't do it in the first place. I know I would like it and I would end up using it as a crutch so I wouldn't have to deal with my isses and personal crap. I always had the anxiety and the weed took the edge off it. I know I would get hooked on the other stuff. No doubt in my mind.
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