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 Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 04:39 Post subject: May the best engine win |
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With all the new games coming out with their own engines in the recent past / near future, I am curious which engine do you think is the sweetest-looking.
Also, it would be awesome if a single scene (~15 seconds, high-res DiVX) were rendered with the different engines, and then which would look best.
Modders, start your... er.. engines.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 04:45 Post subject: |
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bnf
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Each engine has it's advantages and disadvantages. My personal winner would be Source, because it looks great on high end hardware while at the same time running good even on older hardware.
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nouseforaname
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I don't have the best graphics card, but I'd have to say the Farcry engine, looks great and is well optimized ...
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 05:47 Post subject: |
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I said Source. Looks great and runs smooth. STALKER and FEAR can't count. They're not even out yet. They might look great but they might run like shit.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 06:14 Post subject: |
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| hahe wrote: | | I said Source. Looks great and runs smooth. STALKER and FEAR can't count. They're not even out yet. They might look great but they might run like shit. |
STALKER most of us have had the chance to test... sort of. Sure, it was missing a lot of the features of the final (most of the shaders and dynamic lighting, among other things,) but I was impressed with it: it looked like UT2k4 and ran like HL1. I've faith that this will be a good engine. Then again, Source sold itself pretty well with shaders/performance/facial expressions. If only there was a version of Valve without Gabe Fatwell...
| nouseforaname wrote: | | I don't have the best graphics card, but I'd have to say the Farcry engine, looks great and is well optimized ... |
I disagree. It is quite poorly optimized. It has the rendering capabilities of Doom II compared to HL2's and FEAR's engine, but it kicks the framerate where it counts.
Then again, I'm still waiting for ATI to give me an 800XT PE, and for a FEAR leak. Given the amount of cards ATI has given out and the amount of Monolith games leaked, I'd say I have equal chances on both of them. |
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 06:17 Post subject: |
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Source although FEAR or STALKER may be better. From what I saw of STALKER from that leaked alpha it seemed nice.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 06:35 Post subject: |
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i was really impressed with hl2 and i was impresed with far cry so i dont know, both them get my vote
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 08:10 Post subject: |
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Source, as it runs damn good together with physics, AI and so on. On the second place I would place the Crytek engine as it damn nice lookin!
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 08:23 Post subject: |
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Why is Serious Sam 2 engine not there?
But since it isnt tehre, my vote goes to stalker.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 09:12 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | | I disagree. It is quite poorly optimized. It has the rendering capabilities of Doom II compared to HL2's and FEAR's engine, but it kicks the framerate where it counts. |
So do you think that an 8500 LE could run HL2 alright?
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 10:49 Post subject: |
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I'm not sure about a 8500 LE.
My specs:
P4 2.4
512 PC3200 DDR
80GB HDD
WinXP Pro
Rad 9600 Pro 128
With above, I had to run FC at a pathetic 800x600, with medium details. HL2 runs with about the same, but do you want to comare the look of HL2 with that of FarCry? I think not. Hell, that and UT2k4 were thrown in for comic amusement, FC would have been excluded if not for the water effects and the 1.3 patch.
As for the Serious Sam Second Encounter question:
If you're serious, LMAO. SS2 runs a heavily modified Quake 3 engine, which wasn't even modified for graphics, only performance with large maps and inhuman amounts of enemies on-screen.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 11:47 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | I'm not sure about a 8500 LE.
My specs:
P4 2.4
512 PC3200 DDR
80GB HDD
WinXP Pro
Rad 9600 Pro 128
With above, I had to run FC at a pathetic 800x600, with medium details. HL2 runs with about the same, but do you want to comare the look of HL2 with that of FarCry? I think not. Hell, that and UT2k4 were thrown in for comic amusement, FC would have been excluded if not for the water effects and the 1.3 patch.
As for the Serious Sam Second Encounter question:
If you're serious, LMAO. SS2 runs a heavily modified Quake 3 engine, which wasn't even modified for graphics, only performance with large maps and inhuman amounts of enemies on-screen. |
First Serious sam 2 is NOT Serious Sam the second encounter.
Second: The Serious Engine is NOT a heavily modified version of Quake 3 engine. Serious Sam : First Encounter and Serious Sam: The second encounter both ue The Serious Engine.
If you ever actually made a map with quake 3 engine or serious same engine you would understand that these engines are completely different. They handle brushes different and Serious engine is much more complex.
Serious Sam 2 will use the Serious 2 Engine developped by Croteam.
http://www.croteam.com/engine_overview.shtml
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:02 Post subject: |
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these are all great enigines !!!
hl2, doom3, far cry, ut 2004 !!!
every engine is good in something
doom 3 for the shadows
far cry best water
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hope fear and stalker will be the same !!!
stalker will be good for big districts i guess!!!
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:14 Post subject: |
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Fear and HL2 both use Havok.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:16 Post subject: |
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Didn't see anything special about the doom3 engine, and i mean it literally!
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:22 Post subject: |
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Far Cry best water? I think the water in HL2 was MUCH nicer.
don't copy that floppy
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:35 Post subject: |
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| BoZo_ wrote: | | Far Cry best water? I think the water in HL2 was MUCH nicer. |
play far cry with patch 1.3
pixle shader 3.0
and activate high definition rendering ! |
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:37 Post subject: |
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| Mumblingidiot wrote: | | Fear and HL2 both use Havok. |
Havok isnt an engine. Its Physcis. Doesnt render grpahics and so on.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:38 Post subject: |
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| whoKnows wrote: | | Didn't see anything special about the doom3 engine, and i mean it literally! |
switch on the flashlight?
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 14:50 Post subject: |
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| TiTaN_KGB wrote: |
Havok isnt an engine. Its Physcis. Doesnt render grpahics and so on. |
Engine all the same, but ya, you are right. Not a grafix engine.
My bad.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 15:37 Post subject: |
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Source, it has the most advanced physics in the world, the best facial mapping and facial animations, as stated before, runs great on high end systems runs good on low end systems. And last but not least, perfect engine for large out door maps, Source is brilliant.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 15:59 Post subject: |
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Honorable mention to Painkiller. Ran very well, looked quite good.
I'd say Source wins it right now, But I'm convinced that CryTek's deserve more credit. Being that they released it first. If only they hadn't made every human look like a freaking plastic GI-Joe !
That's what I find best in Half-Life 2... the characters are life-like
imo, atleast
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 16:41 Post subject: |
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why wasnt Unreal 3 Engine included? its futuristic obviously, 2006, but so far from the screenshots & E3 videos, it beats all the others.. & theres that other Engine, forgot what its called.. there was a pepsi can tho in 1 of the videos, with lots of details.. lol
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 17:15 Post subject: |
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There's no point in comparing engine not released yet. That's why Unreal3 isn't here. And neither should Stalker and FEAR.
However, I'll go for the cry engine.
Doom 3 ... yeah, doom 3. Maybe in 6 years or so then.
Half life 2 : Mind you, it's the design and the maps that rocks in HL2. The source engine isn't that great at all. Poor lightning system to begin with. Then outdoor map ? The grass sucks big time ! That's empty, there's no trees, no vegetation, your range of view is always conveniently limited by the layout ...
So there's the facial animations that are good. The textures. And not the physic engine, since it's havoc, and not source.
Far cry : The first (and only one so far) able to render a jungle, and still offer large map and good viewing distange. Water are as good as HL 2. Lightnings are better than HL2. Interior are not as detailled, but still pretty good ...
I vote for him.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Nov 2004 18:22 Post subject: |
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If you want badass graphics at a decent speed it's the cryengine without a doubt. If you want a super smooth running game that doesn't look too bad but not that good either and runs very good on quite slow systems it's source.
I would say the cryengine is the best overall. Great great visuals at a good enough speed. They also have their own physics engine and I am sure that if the developers want to have kickass physics in their game the cryengine can deliver that. Physics wasn't cryteks biggest thing when they made farcry but like i said, I'm possitive that the physics engine have the power if you want it.
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monolith makes awesome games/engines 
and i just hate valve 
