Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008 18:32    Post subject:
http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/comments_news.phtml?id=092008_3

Gone gold, US version is apparently late September though I'm unsure about that EU date (November, isn't it October?). Smile
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008 18:35    Post subject:
If EU version comes in November, fuck them.
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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008 18:37    Post subject:
The UK is November. Deep silver want to give the pc version at the same time as the console version, so they hold the pc version back.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008 20:34    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:
The UK is November. Deep silver want to give the pc version at the same time as the console version, so they hold the pc version back.


Yep if the game doesn't do well in europe the developers themselves will be to blame, as people will simply pirate and when it finally gets released it'll be competing with Fallout 3 for peoples money.
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Panzer86




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008 20:38    Post subject:
Cant wait, its soon here Very Happy

Will probably play as the Shadow warrior or the Inquistor, evil > good...
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008 23:36    Post subject:
Oh well it says 2008-09-29 as releasedate on Webhallen so I guess it's just UK?
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 01:27    Post subject:
Amazon says Sept 30 for the normal version, but I am interested in getting the CE version. CE will have better gfx and textures. I think CE version will be released in Europe.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 01:30    Post subject:
Where do you get the idea that the CE will have better graphics ? Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 01:31    Post subject:
5h4d3 wrote:
Where do you get the idea that the CE will have better graphics ? Shocked

he is either joking or totally clueless.


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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 01:34    Post subject:
I read it over in the official forums. In the CE version, you will be able to install better textures. You will be able to up the gfx quality one notch which will utilize more detailed textures. I saw some screen shots showing the difference. IT does look better (subtle difference), but requires some better hardware as well. You can tell the difference if you look at the rocks near the bottom of the screenshots but honestly don't know if it is worth it.

Found the forum link:

http://forum.sacredeng.ascaron-net.com/showthread.php?t=46830
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 02:22    Post subject:
Crappier gfx in normal version? Are they motherfucking joking?

And what's next locking resolution to 640 in the normal version?
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 08:07    Post subject:
Seems to be true based on that forum link, also seems it'll be much more demanding than the "high" settings. (Following quote taken from a developer on the second page of that thread.)

Quote:

Hello folks...

Ascaron has invested a lot to develope uncompressed data and textures to be able to be downgrade compatible with low spec PC´s and laptops. I believe a gamer shall not be pressed to buy or upgrade his/her rig to play a game. This shall make all gamers happy for STD and better PC´s !

Because it is possible to develop a even higher GFX set, I named it Elite GFX set, I asked my devs to do so. This shall make Sacred2 nicely playable for the next 4 years and Sacred2 can grow with the time and never will look outdated. If you can not use the Elite GFX now you may be able in the future.

Currently the Elite GFX is a goody for the CE version and not part of the STD edition. Later, if the requirement is there we can give it away for a small amount from our online shop.

No matter what GFX version you play...I hope you enjoy to play Sacred2.

Greetz
Tom


Two replies above there's a note that the texture set takes up a whole DVD9 as it's around 8GB large.

EDIT: Post from another developer on page 3 mentions that this might also be a DLC later on, also has a few screens.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 09:15    Post subject:
First the "optimized for notebooks" crap, then this ... wtf are they thinking ?

No, seriously ! Anway, you know what they say : "when in doubt, just pirate it !"


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 11:18    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
Apparently the Osiris looking creature is called "Temple guardian" thats the class that you can also play aside from the other classis which are "Seraphim, Shadow Warrior, High elf, Dryade, and Inquisitor" so 6 classes all in all.
Seraphim is the goody-two-shoes class of the game which uses otherworldly technology to defeat her enemies.
The Shadow Warrior is like the Dark Elf from the previous game, only now hes more tuned towards death and not poisons.
The High Elf is the Sorceress class like in Diablo 2.
The Dryade wields a bow and can summon/train creatures and mounts to help her in battles.
Then theres the Inquisitor which is the Necromancer class, he wields lightning from his fingertips and can manipulate death and the dying.
Not much is known about the Temple Guardian only that it's non humanoid and like the Seraphim, wields otherworldly technology and is presumeably evil, where the Seraphim is good, so there will be two polar opposite classes and then all the others are in between. I should also mention that the Temple Guardian has not been officially announced as it's supposed to be "secret" but as it can be seen in this music video it does indeed exist as beta testers claim.

I think this will be a great hack n slash game and will definitely buy it upon release.


The Temple Guardian is a hybrid fighter / ranged with a built in weapon that uses t-energy.
Shadow Warrior is the a Pure Fighter with some necro like magic
Seraphim is just like in the first game (magic/fighter hybrid)
High Elf is just like the battle Mage from the first game
Dryad is a ranged/magic hybrid that uses nature magic.
Inquisitor is a melee/magic hybrid with death/lightning magic.

Seraphim and Inquisitor are the Good / Evil. everyone else is in between
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 11:20    Post subject:
well i can't find any significant improvement of the ultra a side of crispier trees.. at least they could've used the temple guardian for compassion as in the previous sshots.

((speaking of textures pack i suddenly remembered of the Oblivion qt3 pack with 4075x res. that even now could makes a 9800gtx go down Razz .) Maybe S2 will be highly modable ? )

Anyway i think that this game will be the next and only good arpg 'till Diablo 3..


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 12:09    Post subject:
Yes the Ce will have ultra gfx, but i can understand that.

quote from my self on the sacred 2 forum:

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And I can understand that they are not in the normal version as allot of ppl would whine just be cause they could not play it on max.


and the dev respond to that:

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Exactly. It was my wish to create this GFX set and make it available to people who want this for their 4000 USD burners. In 2 years this becomes the STD maybe but not now.

The 97% with less performing PC´s we took a lot care of by making Sacred2 playing on low spec PC´s and Laptops. This was a challenge and we got a lot of support from Intel, AMD, ATI and N-Vidia.


And an other psot by a dev:

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One reason why the Elite GFX are not in the STD is to not frustrate 97% of all gamers because they buy something they can not run with the system on hand.

It wasnt planned to release the Elite GFX at all. It was my decision to bring this to the 3% of people who are able to run the Elite GFX. The STD pack contain HigDetails and low Details.

The char f.e. is always Elite and to improve the texture loading speed the environment texture size is reduced for all other GFX sets.

Sacred2 has been developed for a wide range of PC´s and we are proud to specially took care of lower spec PC´s and notebooks.

Pls dont worry, if you need to survive we will make the Elite GFX available per DL.

My suggestion would be to just take the CE version with all the other goodies for just a few bucks more.

For us, Ascaron, its not a good deal because the additional cost for the goodies is higher than the margin for the higher price :=)

The CE is a fan edition with nice stuff and limited, never will be reproduced again

Greetz
Tom
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 12:33    Post subject:
I don't have a problem with it as such but I can't even find the collectors edition in any store outside Germany.
(US amazon site has it as well but shipping isn't normally possible between US/EU not to mention the increased cost.)
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 12:37    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
I don't have a problem with it as such but I can't even find the collectors edition in any store outside Germany.
(US amazon site has it as well but shipping isn't normally possible between US/EU not to mention the increased cost.)


they have it at my local

http://www.gpstore.co.nz/Games/1566250.html

althou something tells me shipping from new zealand to sweeden would cost nine times the cost of the game Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 12:45    Post subject:
i'm curious is there anywhere info about the spec needed to play with all the ultra textures- they're saying that it's only for the 3% of the ppl who will play sacred 2- so the ultra requirements are higher than Crysis's or what ? Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 13:09    Post subject:
There is allot of talk about you're hd need to be in RAID 0 as there is allot of data needed to be transferred back and forth.

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PC for Elite GFX :

Its not only the GPU... The data transfer rate of the huge textures is the problem... 2 HDD in Raid 0 with min 7500 tpm, GPU with minimum 768 MB RAM...and fast RAM for the mainbrain...and a fast CPU. We had good XP with the DELL XPS 730 H2C. This rig runs the Elite GFX. This kind of PC specs are not wide installed.

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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 14:21    Post subject:
2 HDD Laughing they must be joking or be high on drugs they talk like the textures they would give in the CE would be 300 gig and in 1600*1600,


@Karmeck
and you are a sheep , dude do you know for what the graphic settings are ? * PLace Here Leo's FACEPALM OF IDIOT FAIL*

the same with the devs they must be high , its like they will not tell the truth that they are bleeding for moneyz "O ja gut we will ze makez zwei versionz onez withz x360 texures itz a portz but we will notz tell thiz and thiz onetrez thez samez versionz butz withz allz the contend we hadz to remove to makez it runz on the x360z"
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 14:35    Post subject:
People whine all the time about that they cant run a game on max, not lees will whine. Everyone win.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 14:38    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:
People whine all the time about that they cant run a game on max, not lees will whine. Everyone win.


True that
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 14:45    Post subject:
i vote for "wait and see" before making assumptions about "how bad the gfx will be on the normal version"

And not like it matters for you guy anyway, you just pirate the CE anyway ... and even if you buy it, you can STILL pirate the CE version and play with it, even online.
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 14:46    Post subject:
That's just an excuse that people would whine. They did it to sell CEs and that's it.
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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 15:04    Post subject:
That must be why it is so easy to to find for sale.

Here you can see the game at different settings:
http://forum.sacredeng.ascaron-net.com/showthread.php?t=46830


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 15:18    Post subject:
ok we are waiting sacred ce edition for download Very Happy


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 15:19    Post subject:
Maybe the normal version of games should be PS2 ports and CE 360/PS3 from now on?

And indeed I'll pirate it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 16:45    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
Maybe the normal version of games should be PS2 ports and CE 360/PS3 from now on?

And indeed I'll pirate it.

its the other way around bunny ,normal - content of x360 , Ce - the PC version before x360 said cut the high end to make it run of the mid range console

but yeah , remember Scared it was buggy a hell , graphics are graphics but what about their bugs
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Sep 2008 17:01    Post subject:
Yea I want to buy this game don't care about the warez version but fuck can't find anywhere to buy it in the U.S.
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