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Ankh
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| gingerninjaaaaaa wrote: | | Fuck her off, she's a freak. |
Why so?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Oct 2008 12:07 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Freakness wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | True Satanism has nothing to do with killing ppl, sacrificing animals, drinking blood etc |
Ofc it does, but imo everything is mixed up. You may even call christianity satanism [drinking the bood of jesus] and satanism a good will. But there are many branches of satanism. But there are three types of satanists imo: flesh satanists, spiritual satanists and kiddie satanists. |
true
but "real" satanists you never hear over. all you ever hear of are these kiddies who dress like goths and proclaim to be satanists |
Most likely because drama-queens and attention-whores are a plague on humanity, no matter if they're emo, goth or Bob from the supermarket.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Oct 2008 12:35 Post subject: |
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| dominae wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | Freakness wrote: | | Ofc it does, but imo everything is mixed up. You may even call christianity satanism [drinking the bood of jesus] and satanism a good will. But there are many branches of satanism. But there are three types of satanists imo: flesh satanists, spiritual satanists and kiddie satanists. |
true
but "real" satanists you never hear over. all you ever hear of are these kiddies who dress like goths and proclaim to be satanists |
Most likely because drama-queens and attention-whores are a plague on humanity, no matter if they're emo, goth or Bob from the supermarket. |
 very true |
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Oct 2008 15:56 Post subject: |
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Cohen
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Oct 2008 16:08 Post subject: |
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| Razkolnikov wrote: | As esoterically movements happen to be my chief side interest, all of those reading this topic prepare for a lection, if you Believe or you are an AmeriKKKan , please be kind enough and skip this post...
Well first of there are two major things that should be made clear.
There is SATANISM and then there is LUCIFERIANISM....
To put it simple the term "satanist" in the "general public" stands not for satanists or luciferianists, but for the very act of semi-religious and social anarchism.In my country I have been asked if I was a satanist only because I were black. So basically every one who is a bit more distinguished as opinions and views,or just wares distinctive cloths can be labeled or even chose to refer to himself as a satanist.This makes it quite hard to discover who really holds such believes or just holds a social pose.
Even afterwords one has to deal with the difference between a luciferianic worshiper,and a satanist.If you are a believing sheep minded christian - the "good christian" you would most likely consider Satan just one of the names to refer to Lucifer.
However if you are actually an educated christian you would know that in the old Testament and in the new one Satan(Satanail) and Lucifer are two different figures.Satan originates as a name from the asiro-babilonic culture - the name "shaiten" which stands for a desert deamon that tempted and consumed the souls of lost travelers.In the Talmudah and the old Testament the evolution of the angel Satanail is based on the same image - Satan is a fallen angel who tempts man and then drags them to hell after they have fallen.This is where the part the church usualy skips in his image begins.
As a demon it is natural to assume he serves Lucifer, but actually he was given this task by God, and is the only "neutral figure" in the christian symbolism that is a fallen angel -the others are the angels known as "arms" of god and his Justice.Satan's duty is to actually tempt the mortals so that only those who are worthy of redemption my reach it.He uses his powers not to corrupt the innocent but see who truly are innocent.
This is where the explanation of what a SATANIST really is can begin.As a religious sect in the judeo-christianic structure satanists originaly was a name accepted by those who discovered the true nature in the image of Satan, and accepted his role as a postive ruling figure in the lifepath of man (for temptation was neccesery to proof innocence).From there 2 main have emerged and have historical path that can be fallowed.
The first one is the image of those who accepted the sin and temptation and gave in to them in hopes that this is a test for their will and afterward they will manage to break free of those chance and (after already experiencing and giving sin up) stay pure in their soul..Most of the historical figures who tried this one...you guessed it...FAILED....This was the image of satanism mostly associated with secret aristocratical cults, black Sabbaths(although they were mostly luciferianic) , worshiping Satan out loud and most of the modern "dark cultistic" "symbolism)....Those satanists often chose to try and temp others, by doing so believing that showing someone his true face to God, was putting them in his favor.
The second path was by far less popular and eventually evolved into hermitistic lifestyle.Those who believed they have discovered the "true face of Satan" chose willingly to give up on their social environment and isolate themselves from the others in order to be free of temptation.
Afterwords they devoted their life into dwelling on different questions such as the true meaning of purity of a soul, or how the only way to be certain you are free of sin, is by actually never allowing for anyone to lead you in any way, thus crafting your own path of salvation, and seeing Satan image of a promoter of this exact strength for self discovery....This image is quite closely connected to Nietzsche's philosophy of Life...
Well...Those are the two traditional and in my eyes "authentic" forms of "satanism", if you will "true satanism"...everything else in my book is excuse me "goth crap"(and I do not mean real goths but those Merilyn Manson listening mall -type ones).Satanism is basically an individualistic view point on the reason behind your own actions and the life path you chose.You don't even have to call yourself one, you just have to choose and have the will to see yourself constantly as a product of your own weaknesses and realize where you stand in your motives.
And now a word or two about luciferianism (usualy called "Satanism" by...well every body).
Luciferianism is the image of "satanism" as the media and pop culture show it - black candles made of human fat, goat heads, baby blood,ritual daggers violation of virgins, sacrifices,kissing the rectal crack of a goat like idol while having an orgy that even the romans would have hard time to imagine- all that jazz.It is based on the concepts of pleasure and greed - the two main symbols that Christianity considers basic for Luciifers after his fall.Luciiferianism is based on sacrificing your soul and corrupting the souls of others in exchange for direct profit and effect upon reality, be it material wealth, the misfortune of someone or simply pleasure.Also the fundamental believe is that the more you are in favor of corrupting the world around you, the better your standing in the hierarchy of hell.This image if fueled by Dantes image of hell and the fact that the "barons" of each infernal circle are actually the souls of the ones who are greatest "in tune" with the sin to which the circle is committed....
If any of you is into Warhammer, the easiest way to imagine luciiferianic "satanism" would be a Slaneeshi cult -pleasure and depravity for the sake of pleasure and depravity....
Most of the "official satanic churches" are actually based on luciferianism and bits of free masonic rites....
And...that's it....well someone wanted to know what satanism is...and here you have it...It is just another excuse for a person to do what ever he or she considers right...how they use that is a matter of personal preference.....
"Don't judge- listen " is the best position for if a person is really bound to one of the above "true forms" , this can oftenly be seen in her positions and reasoning behind her actions.If she is incapable of explaining her self then I would simply role her out as an exotically looking sex toy... |
theres no way in fuck im reading all that bollocks.
What did he say in a nutshell?
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Oct 2008 16:13 Post subject: |
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I dunno kae, what not read it and summerize it for us? 
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leroy15b
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 10:32 Post subject: |
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what is it to be a satanist?
Go ask bush.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 14:02 Post subject: |
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| leroy15b wrote: | what is it to be a satanist?
Go ask bush. |
actual, as far as im aware, bush is an evangelist...just as bad if not worse if you ask me |
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 14:08 Post subject: |
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As Im starting to see it now, all satanist are is ppl that see the world for what it is and not the good things. And they only think of them self. So I start to understands why she is sad.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 14:25 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Freakness wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | True Satanism has nothing to do with killing ppl, sacrificing animals, drinking blood etc |
Ofc it does, but imo everything is mixed up. You may even call christianity satanism [drinking the bood of jesus] and satanism a good will. But there are many branches of satanism. But there are three types of satanists imo: flesh satanists, spiritual satanists and kiddie satanists. |
true
but "real" satanists you never hear over. all you ever hear of are these kiddies who dress like goths and proclaim to be satanists |
Yep , but it's ALL bullshit so yeah everyone who follows it is pretty much stupid and I wouldn't wanna sleep with a satanist chick so she can slit my throat while I'm having an orgasm
my advice : get away from satanist chicks they're freaks anyway
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 15:48 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | | gingerninjaaaaaa wrote: | | Fuck her off, she's a freak. |
Why so? |
stupid question, its pretty obvious why
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 15:50 Post subject: |
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Nope it isn't.
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 15:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 19:31 Post subject: |
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Is satanism supposed to be so boring?
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2008 19:38 Post subject: |
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| DarkPassenger wrote: |
Is satanism supposed to be so boring? |
well, perhaps you should try it. Its less boring than any of the big religions, if only for the goat- and virgin-group-fucking. Eating feces and drinking piss might turn you off though in the long run  |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 01:33 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | DarkPassenger wrote: |
Is satanism supposed to be so boring? |
well, perhaps you should try it. Its less boring than any of the big religions, if only for the goat- and virgin-group-fucking. Eating feces and drinking piss might turn you off though in the long run |
they dont actually do that stuff man
well, the orgies yes, but everything else, no |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 01:55 Post subject: |
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while the above was intended to be a joke first and foremost, it depends on what satanists you look at. The thelema order for example is said to have used the eating of feces and drinking of piss for example. Most likely to help them overcome their own boundaries and be able to live a more self-determined life with no boundaries to their actions.
but well, read it as a joke really
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 01:57 Post subject: |
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ok gotcha 
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Ankh
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 06:17 Post subject: |
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| JahLux wrote: | | Anthirs wrote: | | gingerninjaaaaaa wrote: | | Fuck her off, she's a freak. |
Why so? |
stupid question, its pretty obvious why |
Not at all - so I ask again, why would she be a freak if she's a satanist?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008 06:22 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | | JahLux wrote: |
stupid question, its pretty obvious why |
Not at all - so I ask again, why would she be a frak if she's a satanist? |
Im curious too.
Ive known a few Satanists and they were nice people. They didnt dress all weird and act all fucked up. Satanist's aren't freaks. True Satanists dont believe in killing ppl and all that shit that is portrayed in the media. They believe in self empowerment.
And it kills me that christians bash Satanists. First off, Christians are just as crazy as the crazy sect of Satanism. Secondly, Satanism is a direct result of the oppression and corruption of Christianity. So the only people the Christians have to blame for Satanism are themselves. |
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