[XBOX360] Fallout 3 [R]
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So, how is it?
Game of the year.
16%
 16%  [ 23 ]
One of the best.
40%
 40%  [ 56 ]
Solid, worth playing, but nothing amazing.
20%
 20%  [ 28 ]
Mediocre.
8%
 8%  [ 11 ]
It really didn't deliver much.
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Do yourself a favor and pass on it.
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
Porkchop sandwiches.
5%
 5%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 137

vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 19:04    Post subject:
I think its great (like 4h in). The graphics are very nice, really gloomy / spooky atmosphere, even more so than eg. previous fallouts or stalker. Immersion is incredible when playing it in the middle of the night on a 90" projector screen hehe.

VATS makes the combat really cool. Bethesda has improved since their latest title (Oblivion) i did not expect anything else. The presentation is superb, UI is really nice (very minimalistic).

My only complaint would be that the game world doesnt seem to be very large (it was lacking in Oblivion too), but it's hi quality stuff what's there.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 19:31    Post subject:
I always got my finger ready on LB... dark places = you will get jumped.
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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 19:31    Post subject:
If you don't use fast travel then oblivion seem kinda big.


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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 19:43    Post subject:
i found myself using fast travel after i got jumped by some stupid robot in the middle of nowhere and since i was literally limping back to civilization, with barely any ammo left that thing killed me pretty fast (was pretty much in the beginning level 3 or 4 or something)

btw. little strategy help needed
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and i ran around an hour or so in rivet city until i figured out how to get in the bow of the ship. (did i miss a dialogue or what? did any one tell you how to get there?)
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darthparth




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 19:54    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
i found myself using fast travel after i got jumped by some stupid robot in the middle of nowhere and since i was literally limping back to civilization, with barely any ammo left that thing killed me pretty fast (was pretty much in the beginning level 3 or 4 or something)

btw. little strategy help needed
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and i ran around an hour or so in rivet city until i figured out how to get in the bow of the ship. (did i miss a dialogue or what? did any one tell you how to get there?)


For mireluks attack the face (knocks off like a huge chunk of HP with VATS).

For rivet city I thought it was pretty obvious. When you approach it the shack says rivet city, and buzzing in the intercom will extend the bridge.
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 20:08    Post subject:
no, i meant the broken off bow or fore? i have no idea about ships, that place you get sent (optionally) to get the "real" history of rivet city
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 20:09    Post subject:
He said the bow. The only way in I found so far is the locked door that you need 100 lockpick to open.

Just got my plasma rifle and advanced power armor, now I'm ready to kick some ass grinhurt
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 20:12    Post subject:
yeah that door Sad
god, if i had know some stuff before starting i would have gone with lockpick, science and freaking repair. who would have know repair would come in so damn handy, building weapons and so...
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ArtursL




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Location: Latvia
PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 21:06    Post subject:
Holy crap, I seriously suggest you guys explore it. There are some really awesome locations and I think I just met the ghoul from fallout 2 (the one with the tree growing out of it's head..could be different one, but yeah, this one looks like him...only umm...well, I don't want to spoil this, so find out yourselves)
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mooyah




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 21:23    Post subject:
How are the loading times for you guys? I'm using 8x fw and I'm seeing up to 45 seconds of loading screens when exiting from a location into the outside world. Other than this I'm liking the Oblivion but not quite Oblivion fun.

edit: I'm not sure if it makes a difference but I'm not using a hard drive atm as I left it at a friend's place.


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 21:25    Post subject:
I burned with 2.4x, only getting maybe 10-15 sec loading time.
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Boognish




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 21:29    Post subject:
Im a little disappointed to hear that you cannot continue play after completion of the main story... but I dont know that it will truly effect me in the end. I logged A LOT of hours into Oblivion on PC and I never even completed the main storyline. Just as well though I had a ton of fun playing it, becoming the head assasin, taking over the most renowned thief's position, becoming infected with and then curing vampirism. I have to imagine there are just as many side-quests and adventures here in Fallout 3 if you are willing to take the time to do a little exploring. I love games like this. Vast open territories and fairly open-ended gameplay.
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LanceBullet




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 21:57    Post subject:
For me, the key to enjoying Oblivion was having your own imagination fill out the world for you tbh..

E.g. They're just NPCs at the end of the day, you have to join quite a few dots in your own mind to think they are a clan of vampires in a fully realised world...

Guess this is going to be similar in that respect?
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Flark




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 22:02    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
yeah that door Sad
god, if i had know some stuff before starting i would have gone with lockpick, science and freaking repair. who would have know repair would come in so damn handy, building weapons and so...



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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 22:09    Post subject:
I just went to vault 106. That was some creepy shit.
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Ace




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 22:10    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
He said the bow. The only way in I found so far is the locked door that you need 100 lockpick to open.

Just got my plasma rifle and advanced power armor, now I'm ready to kick some ass grinhurt


how are you able to use the power armor?
I was only able to use that when i started the final main storyline quest.
which ends the game once its done.

god i hate fawkes, the bastard helps you get something once in a heavily radiated area.
But when you tell me him to do it again he tells you its destiny to get your ass toasted.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 22:15    Post subject:
Go see Paladin Gunny in The Citadel. He'll teach you how to use power armor.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 22:34    Post subject:
How long is the game if you only do main quests?
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00101010




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 22:43    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
How long is the game if you only do main quests?

If you rush and do only the main stuff 15h maybe less.
Really depends on your playstyle though.. I for instance stole from anyone I encountered^^ which I'm sure took quite some time. Beat it at ~18h but did some of the sidequests too so I guess 15h sounds realistic.
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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 23:02    Post subject:
For those who've played it enough, did they remove the annoying level scaling shit or not?
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 23:05    Post subject:
Not sure. It seems like it's still there. Not that level matters too much though.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 23:11    Post subject:
As far as I now there should be a hybrid leveling system for mobs. Meaning they can only level in a fixed frame according to the area.
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javlar




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Location: Kalmar, Sweden
PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 23:39    Post subject:
tedrotheredro wrote:
The physics, maps (fast travel, etc), inventory, and NPC encounters are taken straight from oblivion. However, they have changed a lot: graphics are crisper and gameplay is a lot more fun (thanks to V.A.T.S.). I don't think it matters which version you get...I use V.A.T.S. to target stuff, and rarely do I have to aim to shoot unless I run out of AP. It's not the best game ever, nor is it revolutionary, but the environment is fun and the story is massive. Well worth the sticker price if you liked Oblivion even a little.


Yeah I agree. I've played like 25+ hours so far and I've barely touched the main story line. Just been doing side-quests and exploring, tons of fun if you ask me.

Bottom line is that if you HATE Oblivion with a vengeance (like i know some people do) you will definitely hate this game too. For the people who hate Oblivion, this IS Oblivion with guns. For me, it's a fun spinoff from the original Fallout-series.



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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Oct 2008 00:07    Post subject:
Well the overall sentiment seems to be very positive so I'm happy. I'm still waiting for the PC release though, it's hard as hell. Does the game hold interest, do you get the urge to explore?
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darthparth




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Oct 2008 00:13    Post subject:
Can anyone please tell me where to find dogmeat? he wasn't wasn't at the supermart and I can't find the scrapyard Sad. I'm like 20+ hours into the game too and i have been exploring around Sad

Edit: Did some exploring and found him Very Happy
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ArtursL




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Location: Latvia
PostPosted: Mon, 13th Oct 2008 01:41    Post subject:
Completed it, so ugh...where are all the endings...? There are 2 for good characters, both almost identical. I'm guessing there are 2 for bad and maybe something different for the neutrals...but...is that it?
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LanceBullet




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Oct 2008 02:01    Post subject:
pretty much decided to disregard that auto target system, think even if outcomes are heavily variable dependant it will still take the fun out of the game tbh....not played it yet so can't be sure, but it seems like it will 'take you out of the game '....
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inz




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Oct 2008 03:14    Post subject:
LanceBullet wrote:
pretty much decided to disregard that auto target system, think even if outcomes are heavily variable dependant it will still take the fun out of the game tbh....not played it yet so can't be sure, but it seems like it will 'take you out of the game '....


Me being a mostly PC player, I found that realtime combat wastes a lot of ammo. It's not exactly easy to hit the enemies, most of em move so damn fast.

I usually use realtime only when the enemies are over longer distances; it's funny how in VATS i only get like 20-30% chance to hit, and yet I almost always hit in realtime. Razz

Guess the playtester's bitching worked, since initially your skill with the weapons affected the chance to hit much more drastically.

Edit: anyone else feel the combat in general is a tad too easy (I know I just said that aiming isn't exactly easy, but things like taking damage etc. don't feel very threatening)?

I'm playing on normal, and I couldn't have been more than level 3 when I first went downtown and owned the super mutants that were there. When you consider they had weapons like missile launchers and miniguns, and I just had a sucky bolt-action rifle and a few 'nades, something quite doesn't add up. Very Happy
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mooyah




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Oct 2008 04:52    Post subject:
mooyah wrote:
How are the loading times for you guys? I'm using 8x fw and I'm seeing up to 45 seconds of loading screens when exiting from a location into the outside world. Other than this I'm liking the Oblivion but not quite Oblivion fun.

edit: I'm not sure if it makes a difference but I'm not using a hard drive atm as I left it at a friend's place.


It looks like it was the hard drive. Pop it out for some headbashingly long load times.
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nexmenexme
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Oct 2008 05:31    Post subject:
Seriously, if you have no health and you're in the museum at the start of the game(2 hours in), how the heck do you complete it without restarting the whole game?
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