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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 10:40 Post subject: |
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Any release cracked version?
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 10:49 Post subject: |
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Unless it's cracked, there will be no option to use it.
Sega announced, that before the 14th of november there will not be an option of activating it.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Nov 2008 11:28 Post subject: |
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i'm so desperate for this game.... i guess no other game can reach the addictment level from this one. Better catch up some sleep allready before this gets released.
Empty again 
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 15:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 17:18 Post subject: |
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Yeah, apparantly SIgames are happy that this game wont be cracked any time soon. One of the implementers of the DRM copy protection is ontheir forum at the moment very confident that the protection wont be broken because it isnt wrapped around the software its imbedded in the game itself, so even if someone bypasses the authentication, the game will throw up all kinds of bugs and glitches. Its a challenge Im sure the coders will relish, but it will probably take them a hile, considering the game has been available since Friday in France Holland and some parts of the UK
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tywyn
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Location: The US of K
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 17:46 Post subject: |
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It will be a challenge this year I think, I certainly don't think there'll be a cracked version soon. Personally I'm not that bothered, I get bored of the game after a month or so, and with so many new titles it's really no big deal for me. If I really want to play it that much I'll purchase it.
http://community.sigames.com/showpost.php?p=1989991&postcount=560
Hi All,
Let me introduce myself - I'm the person resposnsible for implementing this DRM protection system on FM09.
Let me try to rationalise the decision for you:
1) We did not want restrictive DVD checks, this is problematic on most PC's and both SecuROM and SafeDISC install low level drivers, along with blacklisting which can cause system instability. Also with the rise of EE-PC's we did not want to restrict the game to be authenticated on DVD media.
2) We have listened to your requirements and have tried to make this protection as unobtrusive as possible - please let me dispel some of the myths already circulating:
* The game does install a certficate at point of activation
* You can choose to remove / not remove this certificate when uninstalling
* There is a hardware feature called 'Insight' turned on - this will collect basic info about your machine - Hardware only (clockspeed, gfx card, memory, hdd size) - this will assist in future developments of the game - BUT can be turned off if it proves unpopular.
* There is no 'profiling' or 'monitoring' of how you play the game? Where this came from is beyond me?
* You do not have to be connected to the Internet to play the game? You only need to activate once and then you can keep on playing
* If you deactivate / activate - you will never need to beg SI / SEGA for an activation key? Why get upset about a procedure you haven't even experienced?
* The game will be DRM free after around 18 months - this will ensure that you can always play the game, as we have listened to your concerns about servers being unavailable in the future.
* There is NO blocking of D-Tools or Alcohol or any other program! We just stop you running a debugger whilst the game is running.
If you have any specific concerns, not outlined above, please post below and I will do my best to answer.
I realise people become very agitated with DRM solutions - but we have worked hard to ensure you receive the best possible experience, whilst we ensure the integrity of the game and try to generate the revenue required to keep this excellent game moving forward with the investment and development it needs - which is directly driven by you guys purchasing the game.
I have played FM and it's previous naming convention for many years, I remember good ole' Freddy Rincorn and Peter Smith - As a fan, I am doing my best to get the balance 'just' right - maybe some will feel we haven't achieved it this time, but I think we're very close.
A note about the DEMO - could you post specific information on that please - the demo doesn't have the activation in it? So not sure what problems you are experiencing?
My final parting message is - Do you really think we go out of our way to make your lives difficult? We want this game to be as succesful and enjoyable as you do - please stop and consider this before you post.
Regards,
Murray
**DEMO UPDATE**
Can you please screenshot the files you have from the DEMO - we would like to identify these files, they should have been removed in the uninstall process. You can delete these manually, it will cause no harm.
**Activation Update**
If you want to uninstall / reinstall you can do to bring back your licence - if you lose the machine HDD failure / PSU drops off and fries system, we sympathise with you and have provided a 'manual' way to deactive through a webpage that will be linked to from the SI Site.
We really are only trying to inconvenience the 'crackers' not you - the legitimate playing public. My thoughts were - I didn't like being restricted to a disc, but I want flexibility - hence you being in charge of your 5 licence seats. This is our first 'tentative' step into DRM and we wil rely on your support and feedback whilst we fine-tune.
**StarDock**
The 'StarDock' promise - has actually been broken if you read some other threads. This is my personal opionion and in no way reflects the opinions of SEGA / SI Games.
**Debugging** / **Blacklisting**
We do not blacklist, but do prevent debuggers attaching to the FM09 process - this is intentional, however, it should not affect you using compilers, building and debugging your own applications.
**Blocking Port80**
Some people have expressed concern about the one-time harvesting of machine details and are blocking FM09 through Windows Firewall, this is a personal choice and you have every right to do so - we only use the hardware specs to improve the game, it allows us to purchase the same hardware as our userbase for QA/Compat testing on FM10 etc. By doing this, you are helping us better understand your needs, especially when considering the move to the 3D engine and further game enhancements.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 18:52 Post subject: |
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thanks, i've just went ahead and ordered it on play.com, looks like they are dispatching it earley anyway.
i think if it was more of a worldwide title then there might have been more people working on cracking it.... i'm sure after Friday when someone gets an install dump to the release groups we might see something eventually playable but i'm not getting my hopes up after reading the above.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 19:31 Post subject: |
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Well look at Spore... That game used a DRM and became one of the most pirated games out there.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 19:37 Post subject: |
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Yeah, slightly different process though, and no matter how early you get the game, you wont be able to play until the 00:01 on the 14th because the activation servers do not come online until then. and a patch will also be released on the 14th too to fix a few bugs
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 19:39 Post subject: |
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| Locklin wrote: | | Yeah, slightly different process though, and no matter how early you get the game, you wont be able to play until the 00:01 on the 14th because the activation servers do not come online until then. and a patch will also be released on the 14th too to fix a few bugs |
yea the injury bug on the demo was annoying.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 19:46 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't worry to much, though. To be honest there's a lot worse you can waste your money on, on FM08 I racked up so much game time it pays for itself, so to speak.
Judging by the demo I won't be buying the game until I know the patch fixes all the issues.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Nov 2008 20:05 Post subject: |
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| Mitchstone wrote: | I wouldn't worry to much, though. To be honest there's a lot worse you can waste your money on, on FM08 I racked up so much game time it pays for itself, so to speak.
Judging by the demo I won't be buying the game until I know the patch fixes all the issues. |
Pre ordered it the day it was available for pre order, £17.49 from the hut. happy I did too because its gone up to 25 quid now
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 01:02 Post subject: |
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The question is, will we see a release before the 14th or slightly after. I've bought fm in the past, but I don't want to this year to avoid supporting DRM. Although the DRM in this game is not SO bad, it's something that can grow and become worse in the future if companies feel people will allow it.
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 23:06 Post subject: |
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i was about going to buy this, but f*ck that im not going to buy a game with DRM
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 16:27 Post subject: |
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| tardissun wrote: | | The question is, will we see a release before the 14th ... |
As long as it's impossible to activate, it's impossible to crack.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 17:14 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | tardissun wrote: | | The question is, will we see a release before the 14th ... |
As long as it's impossible to activate, it's impossible to crack. |
But Mac version doesn't require activation?
ps. Some Beta testers who are recieved copy from SI are told that game works fine and activation is not even needed. Strange but 99% truth.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 17:19 Post subject: |
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| escalibur wrote: | | VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | tardissun wrote: | | The question is, will we see a release before the 14th ... |
As long as it's impossible to activate, it's impossible to crack. |
But Mac version doesn't require activation?
ps. Some Beta testers who are recieved copy from SI are told that game works fine and activation is not even needed. Strange but 99% truth. |
yeah thats true, someone @ SI forums posted some screens of it and said that hes playing it on mac.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 17:40 Post subject: |
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i remember to read last year they say if you use a cracked version there will be all kinds of bugs and errors that come into your game as you play, but its bullshit! the entire game is always full of bugs if you buy in shops, they just use scare tactics.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 17:53 Post subject: |
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| BigBasher wrote: | | i remember to read last year they say if you use a cracked version there will be all kinds of bugs and errors that come into your game as you play, but its bullshit! the entire game is always full of bugs if you buy in shops, they just use scare tactics. |
Actually no. The first cracked version that came out had the "bugs", like the Euro08 bug where all the crap teams played in the competition. This didn't happen if you had the clone or the fixed crack. They probably have it in this year too. When and if it's cracked, the crackers will have to get around all the triggers inside the game. But yes, the game is always full of bugs anyway "out of the box".
I might get this anyway after new year when prices start to come down. Thought the 3D was decent although overall the game was a let down. My fault though, I got my hopes up with all the talk about 3D and press conference (way to repetative!). Wasn't a big fan of 08 so my last bought version was 07.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 18:47 Post subject: |
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just pre'd on psp Football.Manager.2009.Handheld.EUR.PSP-GLoBAL
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 18:53 Post subject: |
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| dougiej2004 wrote: | | just pre'd on psp Football.Manager.2009.Handheld.EUR.PSP-GLoBAL |
kinda wrong section, but nniiiice !
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 20:29 Post subject: |
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i was juyst saying,pc version won't appear to much security
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 20:36 Post subject: |
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i was juyst saying,pc version won't appear to much security
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Nov 2008 23:48 Post subject: |
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| dougiej2004 wrote: | | i was juyst saying,pc version won't appear to much security |
DRM in psp aswell?
dont think they need to authenticate the same as a PC user will have too
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 04:03 Post subject: |
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correct... i'm currently playing the PSP version right now.
Not as good and very much a cut down version of the PC game.
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